Malaysian Skyline Club?

[gobiz2]

I nominate Pimpin for founding chairman.

 

[[PIMPIN]]

I nominate Pimpin for founding chairman.

Thanks bro, but I respectfully decline. I don't know if you've noticed but I'm probably one of the younger ones here therefore it wouldn't be appropriate. PLUS I don't want to be Chairman/President but I'd help/serve the Club in anyway I can and for that I don't need a post even.

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Actually, to be perfectly honest being a proper club will result in internal politics which I feel we can do without. Why can't it be a democracy, a proper democracy whereby whoever initiates an event follows through with it and if needed, those with time can step in and help. An example would be Saturday's event - although I sort of suggested it, without the help of Blood Red and feezdya, there is absolutely no way I could have pulled it off. Not to mention all of you who donated (anonymously or otherwise) and attended the event.

Can't this be the way going forward? Call ZTH our official home but use Facebook for more informal or spontaneous events/activities? Since this section of the forums is sponsored by Tan Chong, what more do we want? Even the official Nissan people in Malaysia recognize this as the home of Skyline owners in Malaysia.

Hopefully midship could assist further in future events such as goodies from Nismo? Even a keychain or stickers for all in attendance would go a long way in terms of goodwill. Could we do this for the Mega Gathering?

I actually mentioned the possibility of T-shirts for the Mega Gathering while arranging the donations by Rev-Junkies and Justin has two separate designs specially kept on hold for us but would need advance notice as they take about 1.5 months to make (sizes are custom and based on our sizes we're going to need custom!).

Aside from that, discreet stickers like how JDM Autolink has made could easily be made if everyone agrees. Again, only if the majority agrees.

 

[gobiz2]

Just IMHO but without a founding chairman to lead a committee this club won't happen.

Someone needs to lead it, otherwise it will just be status quo.

My nomination stands.

Committee needs an uneven number of people, eg. 7 or 9 or 11 (for voting purposes). Preferably not too many.

You will also need to decide on quorum ie if less than 50% of committee do not attend, then decisions cannot be made.

This is probably common knowledge to everyone but I guess can be useful if we're talking about setting up a committee.

Again, I'd like to reiterate that the chairperson is key.

 

[[PIMPIN]]

I understand completely what you mean. I've even taken the liberty of stealing another club's constitution (shhh!) and editing it to suit our context. Since most of the clubs seem to have the same constitution, I think everyone copied each other anyway. As mentioned, I don't mind the paperwork. Probably could help push the application through ROS a bit faster since its under KDN, might know one or two people there. Hopefully they're in a position to help but no promises either.

However, as V-Spec has mentioned you do realize we need people from 7 (is this correct # EJ?) different States to use the Malaysian term to describe our Club. That is why I asked for help from Hypertune/Shift to give us some coverage and with that perhaps we can achieve the critical mass needed. I hope I didn't step on any toes by doing so but I fail to see how it would be against our best interests to have more exposure especially on a national level.

 

[Temujin]

Perlis, Perak, Selangor, Kuala Lumpur, Melaka, Johor & Pahang.. Settle. I believe we have Skyliners active in ZTH from these states.

:top:

 

[gobiz2]

Perlis, Perak, Selangor, Kuala Lumpur, Melaka, Johor & Pahang.. Settle. I believe we have Skyliners active in ZTH from these states.

:top:

Don't forget N. Sembilan (Seremban fellas), Kelantan and Sarawak (members in the FB group).

I think it's safe to go ahead to form a pro-tem committee, and then during the AGM the committee can be finalised.

Nominations for chairperson:
1. Pimpin
2.
3.

Nominations for pro-tem committee members:
1.
2.
3.
etc

 

[Blood Red]

Can't we create a Skyline Club, dropping the Malaysian word? Of course membership is opened to all.

 

[Temujin]

Can't we create a Skyline Club, dropping the Malaysian word? Of course membership is opened to all.

IMHO perhaps with the word 'Malaysian' brings some weight to the club when we approach for sponsorships etc.

Though by dropping the word, it would easier in the sense that we could forego the 7 state ruling.

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Since nobody's willing to take the initial lead, let me do it lah.. of course with the blessings of the majority. Will try my best to devote time to make it happen (I'm bored at the clinic anyways) and hopefully get the 1st AGM going for handover of administration to those elected.


My suggested plans for the founding of the official MSC as per below:

1. Set up pro-tem committee

2. To decide on the Club's mission and discuss benefits for members.

3. Organize Skyline Mega Gathering (To gather all Skyliners all over Msia. To announce the Club to the public. To encourage membership).

4. 1st AGM during the Mega Gathering to handover administration to elected council members.

Timeline to complete all four items above would be till end of the year.

1st January would be the date the new elected council members take power.



I'd like the Club to have Skyline trackdays and a Nismo Festival-like event annually (and of course, CSR events such as the recent buka puasa).

I believe it is possible with the support and effort by the members of the Club.

 

[Blood Red]

Temujin... I second your self nomination. I offer Putra Heights as the first meeting point to discuss the above. :)

 

[Temujin]

Temujin... I second your self nomination. I offer Putra Heights as the first meeting point to discuss the above. :)

Thanks bro, appreciate ur support.

I think having an official club would be beneficial to its members as we can officially apply for sponsorship for events and such.

I suppose the Club could provide benefits to its members such as participation in official Skyline Trackdays, Nismo/Nissan events, as well as getting discounts on automotive parts and apparel. This of course would need the pro-tem committee and the subsequent elected committees gracious efforts to make this a reality.





Now let's get to business.

We need pro-tem committee members. Those who can help in managing docs for submission to ROS, gathering membership info, getting contacts for Mega Gathering sponsorships, provide expertise and assistance in event management and any other commitment that any of you can provide.

Basically I think the aim for the pro-tem committee is to first of all establish the club and then setup the 1st AGM to have elected council members.

I'd like to propose having the 1st AGM during the Mega Skyline Gathering 2011 as I would hope this event would gather most if not all local Skyliners.

Therefore manpower is needed to manage the Mega Skyline Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM.

Off my head I have a few suggestions (though not necessarily be followed to the dot).

[PIMPIN] & VSpec could help in the documentation and submission of application to the ROS. I'm not well versed in the application, therefore would like the help of both of you to take a lead in this.

BloodRed, I think you would have the recent database of the Skyliners. We would need to use the database as well as our FB & ZTH channels to promote the gathering, AGM and the Club as well. Get as many contacts as you can and get them involved, one way or another (their involvement in the club, not the method to get them involved ).

Feezdya, I'd like you to pull out the stops on every contact you have for organizing the event. I'd like to nominate you for the post of Project Manager for the Skyline Mega Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM.

The people above are my suggestions as lead men, hopefully most will agree.

Hopefully others would also come forward to lend a hand and put some commitment to make this happen.






I'd like to suggest a preliminary meeting at Putra Heights this weekend. Personally I'd prefer Sunway as it would be more or less in the middle between those in KL and Klang but parking would be more favourable in Putra Heights. I'm open to suggestions though, Aman Suria would also be good.

This preliminary meeting is for those interested in the formation of the Club and need not be only those who would be in the pro-tem committee. So basically everyone's invited.

I'd like to suggest to meet up this Friday, 19 August 2011 at 9.30pm (I would hope most would be there by 10pm) at Putra Heights.

I'd like us to discuss these three things:

1. What we could do for the members both upon registration of membership as well as long term benefits.
2. What is needed to apply to ROS and how we could achieve it
3. Pre-planning for the Skyline Mega Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM



For those unable to attend but would like to contribute, you can post it up in the forum or by PM-ing me.



Cheers.

 

[[PIMPIN]]

I'd like to suggest to meet up this Friday, 12 August 2011 at 9.30pm (I would hope most would be there by 10pm) at Putra Heights.

Sorry bro, I may run stock boost but I can't travel back in time. :hmmmm:

 

[Temujin]

Sorry bro, I may run stock boost but I can't travel back in time. :hmmmm:

Bwahahaha.. Malunye!

19th August 2011!

 

[feezdya]

Thanks bro, appreciate ur support.

I think having an official club would be beneficial to its members as we can officially apply for sponsorship for events and such.

I suppose the Club could provide benefits to its members such as participation in official Skyline Trackdays, Nismo/Nissan events, as well as getting discounts on automotive parts and apparel. This of course would need the pro-tem committee and the subsequent elected committees gracious efforts to make this a reality.





Now let's get to business.

We need pro-tem committee members. Those who can help in managing docs for submission to ROS, gathering membership info, getting contacts for Mega Gathering sponsorships, provide expertise and assistance in event management and any other commitment that any of you can provide.

Basically I think the aim for the pro-tem committee is to first of all establish the club and then setup the 1st AGM to have elected council members.

I'd like to propose having the 1st AGM during the Mega Skyline Gathering 2011 as I would hope this event would gather most if not all local Skyliners.

Therefore manpower is needed to manage the Mega Skyline Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM.

Off my head I have a few suggestions (though not necessarily be followed to the dot).

[PIMPIN] & VSpec could help in the documentation and submission of application to the ROS. I'm not well versed in the application, therefore would like the help of both of you to take a lead in this.

BloodRed, I think you would have the recent database of the Skyliners. We would need to use the database as well as our FB & ZTH channels to promote the gathering, AGM and the Club as well. Get as many contacts as you can and get them involved, one way or another (their involvement in the club, not the method to get them involved ).

Feezdya, I'd like you to pull out the stops on every contact you have for organizing the event. I'd like to nominate you for the post of Project Manager for the Skyline Mega Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM.

The people above are my suggestions as lead men, hopefully most will agree.

Hopefully others would also come forward to lend a hand and put some commitment to make this happen.






I'd like to suggest a preliminary meeting at Putra Heights this weekend. Personally I'd prefer Sunway as it would be more or less in the middle between those in KL and Klang but parking would be more favourable in Putra Heights. I'm open to suggestions though, Aman Suria would also be good.

This preliminary meeting is for those interested in the formation of the Club and need not be only those who would be in the pro-tem committee. So basically everyone's invited.

I'd like to suggest to meet up this Friday, 19 August 2011 at 9.30pm (I would hope most would be there by 10pm) at Putra Heights.

I'd like us to discuss these three things:

1. What we could do for the members both upon registration of membership as well as long term benefits.
2. What is needed to apply to ROS and how we could achieve it
3. Pre-planning for the Skyline Mega Gathering 2011 & 1st AGM



For those unable to attend but would like to contribute, you can post it up in the forum or by PM-ing me.



Cheers.

hehe seem like we already found MSC Presidente!! Long live TemujiN!

 

[[PIMPIN]]

Anyone who is SERIOUS about participating in this please download, read and understand all of the documents in the zip file provided. Some are relevant, while others are not. I've included all so that everyone is more familiar with the Act.

Also, I have drafted a basic constitution based on what other Clubs have used in their ROS submissions. Please read thoroughly, understand its contents and make notes in the margins as to what changes you feel should be made. Also note what needs to be added and what could be left out.

Don't bother with legal advisers, etc. I don't believe its necessary and furthermore JaHaX is in the midst of setting up a new firm therefore I don't think its fair to burden him with what is really a simple, straightforward application. If need be, I have lawyers in fact a team of them so I can get one of the junior associates to review the documents if needed. Don't worry about the legal fees, I'll get one to do it pro bono since I know where all of them live (J/K!).

If the pro tem sticks to all the requirements needed for the submission, then there is no reason for the ROS to reject the application. I don't think there is a need to fast-track this since there are no reasons for rushing. It isn't a new idea, but once suggested months ago so why the hurry? Do it properly, thoroughly and do it once and for all.

I don't mean to be harsh when I say this but if you cannot read all the attachments, understand them well enough to discuss them as well as make suggestions and amendments by Friday, then I suggest you re-evaluate your commitment towards being a part of the steering committee.

Good luck. Let me know if you guys need help.

Rapidshare:
https://rapidshare.com/files/3256444560/Malaysian_Skyline_Club.zip

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B6ejft1psfrUNzY2NmU4NzMtYTBhOC00NjFhLTgxZWItNjYxYWQwYmJmNzYy&hl=en_US

ADDENDUM: Temujin if you're to serve as President/Chairman of MSC would you be open to relinquishing your Staff position in ZTH? Sounds petty but if you want to run this properly, its the correct way of doing it I reckon. I'd choose MSC if I were you, Tom can find other Staff for ZTH.

 

[Temujin]

Agreed. Those who wish to be in the steering com, please read up. Will trash it out this Friday in the meeting.

ADDENDUM: Temujin if you're to serve as President/Chairman of MSC would you be open to relinquishing your Staff position in ZTH? Sounds petty but if you want to run this properly, its the correct way of doing it I reckon. I'd choose MSC if I were you, Tom can find other Staff for ZTH.

No problem. I'm just a contributor anyhow..

 

[gobiz2]

Looks like progress.

Please cross-post this on the FB group as well. There seems to be higher readership over there.

I don't want to be in the pro-tem committee but can I just come and listen if there's a meeting Friday? I promise I won't be kepohchi hehehehe

 

[Blood Red]

Temujin,

That i can do, but please, don't make me read all those docs. :)

Will revert back with a plan on the database.

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Question:

Should we restrict the membership to those who presently own a Skyline or is it open to ex Skyline owners and non Skyline owners (those who have never owned one) too?

 

[[PIMPIN]]

Temujin,

That i can do, but please, don't make me read all those docs. :)

Will revert back with a plan on the database.

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Question:

Should we restrict the membership to those who presently own a Skyline or is it open to ex Skyline owners and non Skyline owners (those who have never owned one) too?

You need to own a Skyline at the point of joining as a member and upon selling your Skyline, your membership will cease at the end of the period (say yearly dues) upon which cannot be renewed. That's one option, albeit a little elitist but there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

On a side note, no offence Azmir but it took me time to compile the PDF documents and also to come up with the draft constitution which I did months ago. If I could go through all that trouble, couldn't you, with all due respect, give it at least a cursory read through? Thanks bro

 

[Blood Red]

What should be the info required for registration?

Name
Address
Tel #
Plate Number (??) - to verify if presently a Skyline owner maybe?
Car Model
DOB (??)
IC (??)

What else?

 

[Temujin]

I wonder if there would be any female skyline owners/members..?