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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GT3" data-source="post: 825930" data-attributes="member: 10183">i must say i am very impressed.. well anyway using team mate as a yard stick is right even though quite controversial as u know montoya sometimes are outshine by less quick drivers. I mean he is fast but he can get beaten quick often by Ralf? or Pizzonia? Kimi never really had a strong consistent team mate.. david is quick but then not really consistent and was affected by the one lap qualifying system and montoya.. well put it this way.. he is quick alright.. but his performance is always clouded by diff sort of incidents.. crashes.. injuries.. u know what i mean.. however even so i do admit n admire kimi's speed and race craft and determination.. without a doubt he is one of the best drivers out thereback to alonso.. again if we do use team mate as a yard stick.. we can also get a glimpse of how quick is alonso as a racing driver.. ignore the minardi days as its obvious that alonso hav outshine his team mates who no offence is obviously less talented.. when he was in renault as a test driver.. he is consistently as quick if not faster than the 2 team mates of him (jarno and jenson).. and when he is a race driver.. well 2003 he has been as quick as trulli in qualifying (which is amazing considering trulli is considered as a one lap wonder and hav beaten ralf this season without a prob) and in race alonso always beat him.. 2004 jarno was better in qualifying and occasionaly the race early of the season but then its abit tough to guess the real speed as the amount of feul in each car is more or less a mystery.. but again when the season moves on alonso prevails again (though i must admit jarno might be affected by the politics inside renault).. this season well even i admire fisi very much (who incidently is also rated one of the quickest driver in this era by many) i must say he is kinda outshine by his younger team mate (evn though some of it is due to bad luck).. so if we do compare both by using team mate as a yard stick both drivers seems to hav incredible amount of raw speed and if u must say who is faster well u will be more likely to follow ur heart</blockquote>

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