hello sifus...i`m a newbie...satria 1.3 mod (4g13)

[brendan89]

hi, i wnna ask...i plan on doing the following upgrades..
just wnna make a well balanced out machine..
i currently run on 4g13 svdo..
these are the upgrades i wish to carry out..
could use help on recommendation and howmuch cash to set aside

the list:
1.)4g15 block with 4g18 internals(crank, cons and piston) can i still retain my 4g13 head and and all the stock wiring for this upgrade?
2.) 1.6 supertouring flywheel and 1.6 clutch set...1.6 flywheel...wish to skim to 1.3 oem weight
3.) as for the handling department...what should i upgrade with the upgrades i mentioned above?
4.) rear break drums...planning to convert to discs..perhaps from 1.6 models?

howmuch will the following cost me...inclusive of labour?..need to budget..
any help given will be much appreciated.
thnx

 

[ehdrian]

not interested with 4g92 mivec swap?..

 

[EvolutionZ]

go to any mech, they should be able to quote u....get at least 2-3 quotation so u will know whether u r getting a good quote...

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

no need supertouring flywheel...

just send ori flywheel to machine shop along with 1.6 clutch kit and re-drill clutch mounting hole...along with flywheel skimming lighter than stock flywheel....would be better....lightweight clutch yet very2 grippy and responsive engine....

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no need supertouring flywheel...

just send ori flywheel to machine shop along with 1.6 clutch kit and re-drill clutch mounting hole...along with flywheel skimming lighter than stock flywheel....would be better....lightweight clutch yet very2 grippy and responsive engine....

 

[brendan89]

not interested with 4g92 mivec swap?..

go to any mech, they should be able to quote u....get at least 2-3 quotation so u will know whether u r getting a good quote...

no need supertouring flywheel...

just send ori flywheel to machine shop along with 1.6 clutch kit and re-drill clutch mounting hole...along with flywheel skimming lighter than stock flywheel....would be better....lightweight clutch yet very2 grippy and responsive engine....

---------- Post added at 03:31 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 03:29 PM ----------

no need supertouring flywheel...

just send ori flywheel to machine shop along with 1.6 clutch kit and re-drill clutch mounting hole...along with flywheel skimming lighter than stock flywheel....would be better....lightweight clutch yet very2 grippy and responsive engine....

@pomen GTR i see..thnx bro..
i already skimmed my ori flywheel when replacing worn out clutch plate in the past..
should have installed 1.6 clutch..
what type of 1.6 clutch? oem or can u recommend something to manage the future upgrades as mentioned?
@ehdrian
lol, i dnt wnna touch mivec...coz i dont have capital for that...thnx thou
@evolutionz
thats a good idea...but bfore i do that...i wnna do some homework first before approaching mechs...so atleast i`ll have a rough idea

my budget ard 5k...is that enough?

i saw 4g15 block on mudah selling for rm380 without internals..
another ad for 4g18 internals (crank, conrod and pistons) quoted for rm800

perhaps i can use negotiating skills to get the combo for rm1k..

problem is...the block has no surat...how do i overcome this?

can i use existing svdo 4g13 wiring and head for this conversion?

wnna try and save cost as much...not exceed rm5k...is that a realistic budget?

how much will labour cost? inclusive of dropping engine+reboring+etc..?

not forgetting handling upgrades...to cope with the new hp :D

pls recommend...thnx much

 

[brendan89]

no more input kah? :(

 

[Vinod Mathiahlagan]

NO surat, you cant do anything...all you know could be a stolen engine...but really the mods you mentioned will be costly and yet the performance increase will not be that much...in another words....for the money you spend you could do other simpler pnp mods for less $$ and more hp...

 

[brendan89]

NO surat, you cant do anything...all you know could be a stolen engine...but really the mods you mentioned will be costly and yet the performance increase will not be that much...in another words....for the money you spend you could do other simpler pnp mods for less $$ and more hp...

thnx bro for the comment.
if that's the case, can recommend mods for my c96 chassis?
within the budget of 5k...or perhaps..would it be best for me to
trade my car for a ke70 corolla with a 4age swap? one of those 16 valve tops..
my car`s market value i think ard 12-15k..2003/04 svdo..
i`m basically looking for a ride with reasonable power and handling...wnna have fun in the touge`s..
haha.
thnx in advance =)

 

[ehdrian]

get a satria gsr, sell the car and top up lil bit..got power and handling..

http://www.mudah.my/Satria+gsr+turbo-14990823.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+1+8GSR+Turbo+Manual-14766406.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria-14754424.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria-14733729.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+1+8+MANUAL+GSR+TURBO+ADJUS+ABSORBER-14711374.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+turbo+GSR-13462260.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+satria+turbo-14021712.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Satria+GSR+Turbo-13913940.htm

 

[brendan89]

get a satria gsr, sell the car and top up lil bit..got power and handling..

http://www.mudah.my/Satria+gsr+turbo-14990823.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+1+8GSR+Turbo+Manual-14766406.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria-14754424.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria-14733729.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+1+8+MANUAL+GSR+TURBO+ADJUS+ABSORBER-14711374.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+turbo+GSR-13462260.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+satria+turbo-14021712.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Satria+GSR+Turbo-13913940.htm

i see bro..thnx for suggestions..
but prefer na cars for now..
reasons being..
prefer all motor..dnt like turbo lag...prefer direct response..coz i thnk i wnna play touge.
and also, scared of reliability issues..scared of hwmuch need to spend for maintenance
coz my budget for now only allows me to play with na..
but, thnx bro...it helps

really considering ke70`s now with 4age swaps....less hassle..
if i trade in my car for that...i thnk i`ll hv a few k left to spare for maintenance..
i thnk can get decent one for 10k..

 

[ehdrian]

stock gsr with the side mount intercooler has very minimal lag, go test drive 1 if yr frens have it..if u leave the engine stock, i dun think there's any prob with it, i used to hv gsr in my gti, 2.5years after gsr conversion, only alternator and fuel pump rosak, no other problems ade..just change engine oil on time..

 

[croydon]

4G15 Turbo @ 4G15 Bolt On Turbo @ 4G15 BOT

4G15 turbo piston Charade Turbo

4G15 Turbo + ITB + Stroker 1.6L by Powerzone 152hp 190Nm 0.4bar

4G15 turbo stroker waja 1.6L wiring evo 2 injector 450cc & no management

Mirage 4G15 auto bolt on turbo

 

[brendan89]

stock gsr with the side mount intercooler has very minimal lag, go test drive 1 if yr frens have it..if u leave the engine stock, i dun think there's any prob with it, i used to hv gsr in my gti, 2.5years after gsr conversion, only alternator and fuel pump rosak, no other problems ade..just change engine oil on time..

thnx bro for the input..appreciate it.
i`ll consider.

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stock gsr with the side mount intercooler has very minimal lag, go test drive 1 if yr frens have it..if u leave the engine stock, i dun think there's any prob with it, i used to hv gsr in my gti, 2.5years after gsr conversion, only alternator and fuel pump rosak, no other problems ade..just change engine oil on time..

http://www.mudah.my/Set+turbo+Tdo4+utk+wira+1+5-15010583.htm

http://202.76.227.241/images/52/5252156995.jpg

for the price, its interesting..
if i were to install this kit onto my 4g13...
what else would i need to mod?
how will svdo react to turbo set up?
do i need to put in bigger injectors?
how bout reliability? coz 4g13..i heard is a high compression engine..
also, do i have to cut out my bumper with a big hole infront to mount intercooler? :(
wnna retain stock look...sleeper ;)...hehehe

 

[croydon]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022192/2002-proton-satria/page-7

[YOUTUBE]dIo8pFpPW6w[/YOUTUBE]

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2089/3849/30221924017_large.jpg

4G15 + stroker campro s4ph 1.6 + bot = 208hp

4G15 all stock + TD04 boost 0.45 = 145hp on engine

4G15 Turbo 265hp

4G15 Turbo 183whp 136KW 14psi boost 1bar(stock internal)
turbo IHI VL7
injectors 450cc
fuel preasure regulator @ 4 bar
stage 2 clutch set custom 150 whp+
new O2 sensor-lambda
Apexi safc 2 piggyback for ecu management
owner : http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3068098/1992-mitsubishi-lancer

4G13 @ 4G15 Bot need to change low comp piston, can use piston 1.3 turbo (eg charade gtti cb70/cb80 or old saga magma)
need bigger injector

no need to cut bumper
Satria SE 1.5 turbo for sale

4g13 turbo tuning

 

[brendan89]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022192/2002-proton-satria/page-7

[YOUTUBE]dIo8pFpPW6w[/YOUTUBE]

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2089/3849/30221924017_large.jpg

4G15 + stroker campro s4ph 1.6 + bot = 208hp

4G15 all stock + TD04 boost 0.45 = 145hp on engine

4G13 Bot need to change low comp piston, can use piston 1.3 turbo (eg charade gtti cb70/cb80 or old saga magma)
need bigger injector

no need to cut bumper
Satria SE 1.5 turbo for sale

4g13 turbo tuning

thnx bro.
this is very useful info...perhaps i mite consider td025 BOT..dun wnna go thru the hassle of changing internals...perhaps...add thicker gasket to lower compression..
but now, the ecu...cursed with svdo...is unuchip piggyback the only alternative?
or do i switch to mmc? but thats gnna be a pain in the butt rite?
planning to do this after my exams...

 

[croydon]

no need to change ecu, use management

TD025 many 4G15 bot user use TD04 http://www.lancerregister.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Zerotohundred.com > Technical Section > Tech: Forced Induction > turboe'd 4G15

found this mod from serbia

4G15 12v sohc '92

1.intercoler & pipes 700x350x100mm
2.turbo IHI VL7 max boost 1.4 bar
3.injectors 450cc
4.fuel preasure regulator @ 4 bar
5.custom mainfold and downpipe
6.stage 2 clouch set custom 150 whp+
7.platinum sparks
8.boost gauge
9.air/fuel ratio gauge
10. new O2 senzor-lambda
11.new fuel pump
12.Apexi safc 2 piggyback for ecu managment
13.blow off valve
i run my laner @ 1 bar - 14 psi about 2 years with modifications & i havnt problem with cooking.
Stock head gasket,pistons,ECU-ECM & 185whp 136KW

**I rise the turbo preasure on 1.5bar with manual boost controler and then KABOM big white cloud under the hood, 2 years on 1 bar and 3 days on 1.5 bar. lol**

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg174/scaled.php?server=174&filename=postavka2.jpg&res=landing

 

[brendan89]

no need to change ecu, use management

TD025 many 4G15 bot user use TD04 http://www.lancerregister.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Zerotohundred.com > Technical Section > Tech: Forced Induction > turboe'd 4G15

found this mod from serbia

LOL..i know td025 is small...but scaryla..to play with td04..especially 4g13 engine..
if kancil can play with td025...then i feel safer bro..haha..
besides...is apexi SAFC 5 button enuff to meet with demands of BOT?
coz, its cheaper among all the other piggybacks...
but its analog...so, yah..

 

[RevMesh]

interested ah bro?? Used Parts Rack | Facebook

 

[brendan89]

interested ah bro?? Used Parts Rack | Facebook

thnx bro, if interested will let you know.
ke70 with 4age blue or red tops ard 7-10k..
temptingla...mite wnna trade in my satria for that..
then i'll still have spare change for maintenance and other mods..
i thnk my car can still fetch rm12-14k...2003 satria, 1.3..mileage is under 80k kms..haha

 

[adamssia]

That video is 4g13 engine?