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Message: <blockquote data-quote="normality78" data-source="post: 2179219" data-attributes="member: 17">Zan,diesel by itself already stand advantage on torque. moreover its TC. On the other hand, that is the reason why i limit till 4000rpm as u see, vtec cna yeild much more torque but only happen in high rpm. Anyway im suprised to know Waja got more torque output thn Vios. The only thing i can think of why vios more lively due to body weight is much lighter thn Waja. If i was not wrong, Vios only weight around 9xxkg whereas Waja is 11xxkg</blockquote>

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