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<blockquote data-quote="new22003" data-source="post: 1965355" data-attributes="member: 46263"><p>Well you are getting you info second hand that much is obvious. I have personally been in these cars. You may try it, or at least not get all your info from european magazines. Seems like a lot of people who have never even seen a Z06 in person think they have "informed opinions". Its likely they havent even seen or sat in the car they are comparing it to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again even the mustang GT which is a heavier and less aerodynamic car gets better fuel mileage than the mazda RX-8, the same as the 350z/fairlady, and just 1 mpg gallon less than the honda s2000. So that reasoning is out the window. A Bigger engine does not mean poor fuel economy. (Mustang GT is epa rated at 25 mpg). The Corvette has been getting over 20 mpg since the 80's, has Ferrari EVER made a car that got that kind of mileage. </p><p></p><p>Also for comparison sake the new 3 ton, aerodynamic as a brick wall, 5.3 v8 Chevrolet Tahoe SUV gets 22 mpg. The 4.7 liter v8 toyota landcruiser only gets a dismal 17 mpg. The 4.2 liter V8 Volkswagen Touareg gets 18 mpg, even the 3.2 liter v6 Touareg only gets 20 mpg. The tahoe has more horsepower and torque AND better fuel economy than a japanese or german vehicle of equal size. The chrysler 300 with the 5.7 hemi v8 gets 25 mpg as well. This equals the fuel economy of the smaller and less powerful Lexus 4.3 v8 GS 430. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again the vette has WON lemans even before the c6 generation. As I stated above the 1984 was the first mass produced car to pull over 1 g lateral in stock form. It has had fully independent suspension since 1963 something VERY few manufacturers had. </p><p></p><p>As far as testing at Nurburgring. Thats one of those things people who bench race (never get behiond the wheel) tout as mattering. You realize several tracks including Road Atlanta are set up just like Nurburgring right? There are actually better tracks to test at as well but now they have to do it because every bench racer on the net thinks Nurburgring matters. Its funny because 99.9% of them have never driven on it or any other track yet they think you have to test there. Ask yourself why you think Nurburgring matters so much? Its not because you have driven on it, its because you were told it matters. </p><p></p><p>By the way the new Mustang has been blowing the doors off the new Porsche 997 and BMW M3 on the track as well. (Grand-Am Cup)</p><p></p><p>The Cadillac CTSV and Viper beats porsches and many others makes in the SCCA speed world challenge. </p><p></p><p>I could go into those records but it would take too long</p><p></p><p></p><p>People that mistake electronics for sophistication scare me. I would much rather have my sophistication come from the actual suspension engineering and construction of the car than electronic add-ons. Also the vette has more than its share of electronic gadgets on top of real engineering sophistication. For example active suspension, LTP warning sensors in each wheel, electronic adjustable ride control, heads up display, g meter.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #555a5f"></span></p><p><span style="color: #555a5f"></span> </p><p><span style="color: #555a5f">The reason people always complain is that it makes them feel bad about the car they idolize/own (Ferrari, lambo, Aston) and they have to have some reason why the car isn’t good enough. </span></p><p> <span style="color: #555a5f"></span></p><p><span style="color: #555a5f">They compare the Corvette to a car costing 4 times as much and the best they can come up with is that the interior isn’t as nice? Funny they don’t complain Ferrari gives you less of just about everything else for 4 times the money. The corvette beats the Ferrari 430 in just about every category (reliability, price, handling, track time, horsepower, torque, and fuel economy). </span></p><p> <span style="color: #555a5f"></span></p><p><span style="color: #555a5f">The Corvette interior isn’t as plush as a Bently but it’s not a Hyundai either. You have leather, navigation, and great Bose sound system. It’s certainly better than any other below $75,000, 505 horsepower supercar. The reason the corvette get compared to these cars is that the Europeans or Japanese, or the rest of the world cant make anything to touch it in the price range or even in a price range 3 times as much. </span></p><p><span style="color: #555a5f"></span> </p><p><span style="color: #555a5f">By the way the new 600+ horsepower, even lighter, even better handling, "Blue Devil" z06 will be coming out in 2008 so ferrari has even more to worry about. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="new22003, post: 1965355, member: 46263"] Well you are getting you info second hand that much is obvious. I have personally been in these cars. You may try it, or at least not get all your info from european magazines. Seems like a lot of people who have never even seen a Z06 in person think they have "informed opinions". Its likely they havent even seen or sat in the car they are comparing it to. Again even the mustang GT which is a heavier and less aerodynamic car gets better fuel mileage than the mazda RX-8, the same as the 350z/fairlady, and just 1 mpg gallon less than the honda s2000. So that reasoning is out the window. A Bigger engine does not mean poor fuel economy. (Mustang GT is epa rated at 25 mpg). The Corvette has been getting over 20 mpg since the 80's, has Ferrari EVER made a car that got that kind of mileage. Also for comparison sake the new 3 ton, aerodynamic as a brick wall, 5.3 v8 Chevrolet Tahoe SUV gets 22 mpg. The 4.7 liter v8 toyota landcruiser only gets a dismal 17 mpg. The 4.2 liter V8 Volkswagen Touareg gets 18 mpg, even the 3.2 liter v6 Touareg only gets 20 mpg. The tahoe has more horsepower and torque AND better fuel economy than a japanese or german vehicle of equal size. The chrysler 300 with the 5.7 hemi v8 gets 25 mpg as well. This equals the fuel economy of the smaller and less powerful Lexus 4.3 v8 GS 430. Again the vette has WON lemans even before the c6 generation. As I stated above the 1984 was the first mass produced car to pull over 1 g lateral in stock form. It has had fully independent suspension since 1963 something VERY few manufacturers had. As far as testing at Nurburgring. Thats one of those things people who bench race (never get behiond the wheel) tout as mattering. You realize several tracks including Road Atlanta are set up just like Nurburgring right? There are actually better tracks to test at as well but now they have to do it because every bench racer on the net thinks Nurburgring matters. Its funny because 99.9% of them have never driven on it or any other track yet they think you have to test there. Ask yourself why you think Nurburgring matters so much? Its not because you have driven on it, its because you were told it matters. By the way the new Mustang has been blowing the doors off the new Porsche 997 and BMW M3 on the track as well. (Grand-Am Cup) The Cadillac CTSV and Viper beats porsches and many others makes in the SCCA speed world challenge. I could go into those records but it would take too long People that mistake electronics for sophistication scare me. I would much rather have my sophistication come from the actual suspension engineering and construction of the car than electronic add-ons. Also the vette has more than its share of electronic gadgets on top of real engineering sophistication. For example active suspension, LTP warning sensors in each wheel, electronic adjustable ride control, heads up display, g meter. [COLOR=#555a5f] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#555a5f]The reason people always complain is that it makes them feel bad about the car they idolize/own (Ferrari, lambo, Aston) and they have to have some reason why the car isn’t good enough. They compare the Corvette to a car costing 4 times as much and the best they can come up with is that the interior isn’t as nice? Funny they don’t complain Ferrari gives you less of just about everything else for 4 times the money. The corvette beats the Ferrari 430 in just about every category (reliability, price, handling, track time, horsepower, torque, and fuel economy). The Corvette interior isn’t as plush as a Bently but it’s not a Hyundai either. You have leather, navigation, and great Bose sound system. It’s certainly better than any other below $75,000, 505 horsepower supercar. The reason the corvette get compared to these cars is that the Europeans or Japanese, or the rest of the world cant make anything to touch it in the price range or even in a price range 3 times as much. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#555a5f]By the way the new 600+ horsepower, even lighter, even better handling, "Blue Devil" z06 will be coming out in 2008 so ferrari has even more to worry about. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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