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u guys didnt come peksan on saturday nite... u ppl missed the fun already... got quite some fast cars with us... 180sx, SGTi, myvi n some other sifus....

somemore on the downhill.... all of us tapau-ed a DC5... :thefinger:
lolz... pity the DC5...

But I got one seller have a brand new but old stock and he sure is for perdana but he not sure is what we mention perdana Sei so thought people here can help me the model number so he can confirm the model . So please help me out :p
i thought Gtech is universal... got special made for perdana sei??...

may 2nd, gra rd1 night race...anyone wanna come watch? location shah alam stadium, beside gokart track.

come support a lonely 1.5 wira auto ok? :rofl:
sifoo u joining ahh??.. like dat other ppl where got chance wo... :adore:
 

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dear tofu, as I tryin to said here get more great stuff with good thing. I never use gtech but I did see from u tube look like the setting is easy n stuff but iPod need more info? Well forget about it if u have one iPod or your friend has it. Try it out den.

Skywalker yes g tech are universal . But I just trying to said. There two device we can compare. N I trying to said iPod is cheaper n good and better den gtech. Because iPod have the application can do much better then gtech .
 

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lols, i just did my thermal wrap, diy styled, the after fibre cuts are bearable,

got a shock when i saw smokes coming out from my extractor, quickly check with guan, only to find out that it is normal, thought my car will go up in flames

anyway did not fully wrap the extractor, only did like 3/4 and left a little gap here and there to let it breath since mine is like not fully stainless(pipe putih) to prevent it from cracking?

car became a little bit more responsive in the low torque, what do you guys think?

Bump: lols, i just did my thermal wrap, diy styled, the after fibre cuts are bearable,

got a shock when i saw smokes coming out from my extractor, quickly check with guan, only to find out that it is normal, thought my car will go up in flames

anyway did not fully wrap the extractor, only did like 3/4 and left a little gap here and there to let it breath since mine is like not fully stainless(pipe putih) to prevent it from cracking?

car became a little bit more responsive in the low torque, what do you guys think?
 

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biz-da-tech...here is an interesting read for you:

"Hello, my name is Jovo Majstorovic and I have designed all four generations of G-TECH products. I have to say that this video is very upsetting, throwing a product to the ground, that’s not very nice. The entire video seems very biased. However, in this comment, I will try to be as unbiased as I can.

First of all I need to say that I also love my I-phone. It truly is a marvel of modern industrial design and manufacturing, that precision, quality, finish, user interface, all great stuff. In fact I am a big fan of Apple and many of my college friends (Art Center College of Design in Pasadena), work there. While you can pay as little as $200 bucks for an I phone, it should be mentioned that this pricing is heavily subsidized by a two year contract and that the actual price of the I-phone is around $500-700.

Here are a few facts that you may find interesting relative to this video:Accelerometers in the I-phone are used to determine if the product is moved, rotated etc. They are not calibrated to the precision level that G-TECH accelerometers are. Video neglects to mention that the user has to calibrate the accelerometers. To do this right, is not easy and is temperature dependent. If you are lucky, you did the calibration at the same temperature as your measurements otherwise you will be off. G-TECH accelerometers are robotically calibrated and temperature-compensated, I-Phone accelerometers are not, they don’t need to be, so it’s all up to the user and to do a calibration better then a robot is simply impossible, believe me I know. I have several patents in the field, just go to www.uspto.gov and do a search by my name.

No mention of the roll-out in the video! As all of you more experienced drag-racers know, it all happens right there in the first 60ft and the roll-out is the most important part of it. If you deep-stage on the track and you use a 12” roll-out, the resulting discrepancy can be even bigger than half a second!

No mention of the pitch correction! Pitch is the rotation of the car due to suspension compliance and G-forces. To have the “correct” measurement without correction for the pitch of the car as it rolls down the track is simply blind luck!

1.5Gs on a Mini?! Video indicates that a Mini pulled 1.5Gs. This is simply impossible and is due to what we call kinetic-dump. This is the force resulting from the engine running freely for a period and than dumping that energy on to the drivetrain. Obviously not proper dampening algorithms are used in the Dynolicious software.

I have spent last 15 years on the drag strips and racetracks testing measuring equipment for vehicles and I am here to tell you that this is not as easy as it seems. There is a great deal of variables to contend with. If you neglect the variables and your measurements seem “correct” you were simply lucky! That seems to be the case with the horsepower measurement in the video. Here is why...

It is physically impossible to have the same horsepower numbers on the dyno and in real life. On the dyno the car is strapped and standing still and it doesn’t have to contend with air-resistance. Without the exact aerodynamic drag coefficient and the frontal area of the vehicle it’s impossible to determine the exact horsepower loss due to air-resistance. So to have the same numbers on the dyno and the I-phone is simply blind, unsubstantiated luck!

The I-Phone is great, this Dynolicious app. is also kind of neat, but this measurement method is simply no match for a factory calibrated G-TECH."

Make no mistake, i think the dynolicious is a great bang-for-the-buck application BUT like mentioned above, critical things are overlooked...

Btw, a gtech does not only do those things, but it has a PASS software which u can use to analyse ur recorded runs on drag / circuits, record how many G's u r pulling at each and every corner, and overlap runs so u can see how each setting has changed corner g's

man i shud be paid for free advertising :rofl:

cant blame u for thinking that way, the video did a poor job or conducting the test fairly, they didnt even use the gtech properly, seems more like an product promo than some random non-bias 3rd party testing

since u already have an i-phone, if i were u i would also just get the dynolicious app rather than coming out with 1k plus for a gtech lah....but my aim here is just to clear some misperceptions of certain things

Cheers!

p.s the dynolicious app looks great and detailed too, for the price, it cant be beat
 

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ettm,
smoke?? your engine will blow up soon!!! make sure u drain your engine oil and put in fully synthetic oil and run it for 30mins on idle!!! otherwise your extractor will explode!!!







just joking.... and for not buying thermowrap from me.... :thefinger:
 
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guan, mana tahu u selling, if i know i sure buy from you what! :thefinger:

lols...nxt time I want to buy stuff i should inquire with you first la...

Bump: oh ya, now using steel braces to hold the wrap, like not very tight, will it be okay if i use cable ties?will it melt?

difference, one got smoke, the other no smoke..lols

Bump: oh ya, now using steel braces to hold the wrap, like not very tight, will it be okay if i use cable ties?will it melt?

difference, one got smoke, the other no smoke..lols
 

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well tofu both have them good but too much comment haha but for money wise u see which is the best to spend. For all this we not pro as them, so we get them both device all we get still estimate right.

More video touge guan''''

Bump: well tofu both have them good but too much comment haha but for money wise u see which is the best to spend. For all this we not pro as them, so we get them both device all we get still estimate right.

More video touge guan''''
 

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skywalker,
my car using thermal wrap n heatshield... engine bay is not that hot...the engine bay heat is mostly from the radiator..

ettm,
the thermal wrap should come with the clips la.. they are quite tight if u know how to use them.

cable ties?? more smoke to come...:thefinger:

bizdatech,
video will be up soon... drex's internet line has been barred... so need to wait...
 

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I just know got people said splitfire are good and can better den denso wor

Bump: I just know got people said splitfire are good and can better den denso wor
 

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well tofu both have them good but too much comment haha but for money wise u see which is the best to spend. For all this we not pro as them, so we get them both device all we get still estimate right.
yap just clearing certain things nia hehe id love to get an iphone as well but no $$

anyone using bosch super 4 plugs or heard feedbacks for those plugs?
sky has used them b4
 

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drex is using super4 plugs.... been using for damn long already... i think at least 4 years already... still running in his car...

my engine is using NGK small head plugs... BKR6E if not mistaken... more power n nicer to rev on my stocknia settings...
 

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i got a set of Splitfire Triple Platinum... my fren gave them to me when he was selling off his car... he claimed that one set is RM2XX...

well... the torque is better... but i use a cheap of cheap no 6 plugs also get the same results..:confused:
 
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saw one guy selling apexi AFC Single Button for Rm280, actually worth it or not?can it help tune my Air fuel ratio?seems like it comes with the harness
 

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drex is using super4 plugs.... been using for damn long already... i think at least 4 years already... still running in his car...

my engine is using NGK small head plugs... BKR6E if not mistaken... more power n nicer to rev on my stocknia settings...
guan, i tried using the small head plug before, but modded arr.... lasted me a few weeks only dont know why... mayb fouled by overly rich AFR... engine sputtered and mis fired... at last i remove it and replace with normal big head type...

why having a resistored sparkplug is better in fuel injection engine??..

isn't it the heat range that matters, not the plug type?
yeap... but of coz, the model also important... size does matter...

saw one guy selling apexi AFC Single Button for Rm280, actually worth it or not?can it help tune my Air fuel ratio?seems like it comes with the harness
not worth... if can get safcII... price now soar up to rm800 for 2nd hand item... crazy... but safcII offers 12-point fuel correction instead of 1-point fuel correction in AFC single button....

top up abit more get SAFC neo, 16-point fuel correction... with vr nice GUI display... :P
 

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from my experience, different engine setup needs different plugs. i've used various spark plugs, incl iridium, super 4, g power, champion copper cold, and now cheapo waja plug..every one of them is useful, just a matter of which spark plug supply the most suitable heat range that our engine setup required.the thing about iridium is, they last longer but not necessarily being the most suitable.

im a newbie. dont whack me if im wrong:driver:
 

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all this while i am using cheap plugs or shud i say 17 bucks normal denso plugs.. bought da super 4 cos of gra so needed some oomphh while going out of a cone :rofl:

anyway da super 4 cost 45 bucks only, worth da try :driver:
 

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