ek9 vs DC2 chassis

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The DC2 is based on the Civic (1991-1995). Therefore the closest platform shared with that generation Civic is the EG6 SiR.

The EK9 is obviously a newer design and therefore the suspension and body is stiffer. However, Honda made the DC2 Type R quite a lot stronger than the EG6 or DC2 SiR when is debuted in 1995 autumn. When the EK9 debuted in 1997 autumn with its increased handling performance, the 98 Spec DC2 quickly followed in 1998 winter. The 98 Spec had increased body reinforcements to bring it on par with the EK9. However, the basic design is still based on older technology, making the EK9 still stiffer. Many Honda enthusiasts agree that the EK9 handles more neutrally and stable in corners, partly due to its longer wheelbase and short rear overhang. The DC2 has a slight tail out stance under constant velocity in corners.

EK9 the body structure folding and welding points as well as some materials used already makes it heavier than the EG Civic, even though it isn't that much bigger. On the EK9, the front and rear reinforcement bar is much thicker than the DC2.

One area that I feel is more rigid than the DC/EG chassis is the design of the front lower arm. On the DC/EG, the lower arm is a bolt on 2-piece type while the EK uses a L-shaped one piece type.

Also from track experience with both cars, I have found that the EK9 has an advantage due to its short rear overhang hatch design. Bracing the rear of the DC2 to make the rear suspension more stable required some creative bracing. However on the winding roads, this very design makes the it a little tail happy (for a FF) which makes it fun!


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possible ............... but i think it kind of boils down to Personal Preference :biggrin:

both are EXTREMELY cool cars i'd love to drive!
 
Performance wise, both cars can pull out almost the same lap times depending on the track.....
the difference in handling boils down to personal preference like vagabond mentioned...some old school people consider the EF8 of EF9 the best handling of civics & integras, Ichishima of Spoon sports once said his favorite civic is the EG6...

With a little tweaking here & there all the performance civics & integras have great potential.....its a matter of choosing one that fits your style of driving and personal taste....

If you compared stock specs of the 2, the EK9 would seem better....

Personally,if id have to choose it among the 2 id go for the EK9.:driver:
 
EK9 = 1090kg , EG6 = 1050kg, EF9 = 980kg
*all without sunroof

...if im not mistaken....correct me if im wrong...
 
Performance wise, both cars can pull out almost the same lap times depending on the track.....
the difference in handling boils down to personal preference like vagabond mentioned...some old school people consider the EF8 of EF9 the best handling of civics & integras, Ichishima of Spoon sports once said his favorite civic is the EG6...

With a little tweaking here & there all the performance civics & integras have great potential.....its a matter of choosing one that fits your style of driving and personal taste....

If you compared stock specs of the 2, the EK9 would seem better....

Personally,if id have to choose it among the 2 id go for the EK9.:driver:

is that from the spoon EG6 vs EK9 video or spoon EG6 touge video?
 
I think the EK9 is better as a whole. Given the R&D and the reason it was created, The EK9 offers a near racing package sold of a factory assembly line.

The 99' DC2 has one plus going for it, 1.8L and 4.785 FD, while the EK9 gets the handling as it's main positive point.

Stock for stock, the DC2 has better torque than an equivalent B16B EK9, and somehow I can't see an EK9 being faster in a straight line, at least not with the B16B engine with 4.4 FD rev limited to 8.9K(or was it 9.2K? I forget) RPM. Unless the EK9 swapped FDs, and bumped it's peak RPM, it'll have a hard time chasing DC2s down the straights.

Anyway, differrent category in most MSS anyway, super saloon vs. super sixteen.

But what happens if we take the EK9 + DC2's B18C engine + transmission?

You can swap an engine into a chassis, but not a chassis into an engine, hence my preference for the EK9 :P
 
Try this compilation i did, some of the data might be off a little,
correct me anyone for any errors..
 

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