Is it wise for me to buy these second hand cars?

[^pomen_GTR^]

if u having single life... sell the car.. buy small bike to get you around faster and cheaper....


saves more money for more important things like house deposits and other properties... not car.... only buy car when u really-really need it (after marriage if spouse didnt have car already)..

not buying the car will give u alot more saving and more flexible cash to play around if needed

 

[Izso]

if u having single life... sell the car.. buy small bike to get you around faster and cheaper....


saves more money for more important things like house deposits and other properties... not car.... only buy car when u really-really need it (after marriage if spouse didnt have car already)..

not buying the car will give u alot more saving and more flexible cash to play around if needed

not having a car - what you said is true. But the lack of transport is so inconvenient especially in my area where the bus comes like 3 times a day.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

not having a car - what you said is true. But the lack of transport is so inconvenient especially in my area where the bus comes like 3 times a day.

coz ts already said the car is rarely running (he is using other mode of transport) so that wasnt an issue...

 

[vr2turbo]

not having a car - what you said is true. But the lack of transport is so inconvenient especially in my area where the bus comes like 3 times a day.

Yah! if depends on public transport need to be in the correct area. My friend bought a new car, now change job, so car drive to LRT station only then park there whole day......lol

 

[vr2turbo]

Thats wise haha, Lemon new car. Anyway more secure to go with Japs or Korean new car. With Japs, you get the reliability assurance, with Korean, the price tag packs with tonnes of electronic goodies, reliability is quite fair, as far as i observed my colleagues and friends who drive Korean's.

Buy new Korean car, depreciation will be a lot.......lol

 

[sweelt]

Buy new Korean car, depreciation will be a lot.......lol

But the sentimental value kept TS from deciding.
For my case during your age, i keep on fixing old sentra until it give up serving me. But buy wira since wife get to drive new car.
All depend on your willingness. If you like to keep the car, fix it.
All car need fixing no matter used, new, used lemon, new lemon cars. Is matter u can absorb the cost.
Fixing old car is seasonal. If it plan to sick, it sick continuously. Early detection is your best bet.
How you go to work ? Motorcycle is good too as suggested. i ride motorbike too previously.

 

[jon360x]

But the sentimental value kept TS from deciding.
For my case during your age, i keep on fixing old sentra until it give up serving me. But buy wira since wife get to drive new car.
All depend on your willingness. If you like to keep the car, fix it.
All car need fixing no matter used, new, used lemon, new lemon cars. Is matter u can absorb the cost.
Fixing old car is seasonal. If it plan to sick, it sick continuously. Early detection is your best bet.
How you go to work ? Motorcycle is good too as suggested. i ride motorbike too previously.

I go to work via carpooling with my friend

I do use the car during weekend and such (when I need to fetch my mom our bring my mom out) because I love driving the car. Honestly I'm very comfortable driving this car and I've kinda fixed up alot. Car still currently runs fine but there was leaks everywhere and I've fixed almost all of it. Almost. Can say since last year after I started taking care of the car since my dad is no longer around. I've fixed :

2018
1.Absorbers
2.Throttlebody -2nd hand
3. Service engine oil, coolant, and gearbox oil
4. Brakepads
5. Battery

2019
1. Standard service oil and oilfiter
2. Waterpump changed due to leak
3. Still leaking so mechanic said it was water jacket so decided to lift the engine up and replace all of the water jackets
4. Thermostat - all parts
5. Radiator Serviced + new header
6. All radiator hoses changed
7. Gearbox oil sump and oil filter changed because it was leaking - gearbox no longer leaking after that solved.
9. Replaced gearbox oil after fixing leak
10. My aircon stopped working and it turned out to be a relay switch

Now even with all those changed I finally found another component and most possibly the last component thats leaking coolant. Mechanic said its most likely a bad headgasket because he can see a very small leak coming from the engine block. The leak has been happening since last year ever since I took up the car (you could say the car was already a mess when I picked it up)

Now I would fix this car without any further thinking but after driving this car for awhile I can firmly say this car lacks power to go uphill on flyovers in the city and most cars will be tailgating/cucuk me from behind most of the time.

Thus the thought of wanting to get another car that has some sort of power and can be reliable. I thought about the corolla's reliability and how cheap the wira are with parts, not to mention I'm quite a fan of the 4AGE thus I opted for a 20v one. But I don't want to tie myself down with a loan for like 5 years or so buying a brand new car when its just going to be sitting in my garage sounds like a waste. I was thinking about replacing my weekend car haha.

 

[minibeany]

cool down la... whatever car you drive sure another faster car will cucuk from behind... you've fixed a lot
seriously, want to get more power... get Wira and swap the engine. These two sifus @Izso and @vr2turbo can surely give some good advise

 

[vr2turbo]

cool down la... whatever car you drive sure another faster car will cucuk from behind... you've fixed a lot
seriously, want to get more power... get Wira and swap the engine. These two sifus @Izso and @vr2turbo can surely give some good advise

But swap also cost $$$ and have it's fair share of problems too......lol

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

I go to work via carpooling with my friend

I do use the car during weekend and such (when I need to fetch my mom our bring my mom out) because I love driving the car. Honestly I'm very comfortable driving this car and I've kinda fixed up alot. Car still currently runs fine but there was leaks everywhere and I've fixed almost all of it. Almost. Can say since last year after I started taking care of the car since my dad is no longer around. I've fixed :

2018
1.Absorbers
2.Throttlebody -2nd hand
3. Service engine oil, coolant, and gearbox oil
4. Brakepads
5. Battery

2019
1. Standard service oil and oilfiter
2. Waterpump changed due to leak
3. Still leaking so mechanic said it was water jacket so decided to lift the engine up and replace all of the water jackets
4. Thermostat - all parts
5. Radiator Serviced + new header
6. All radiator hoses changed
7. Gearbox oil sump and oil filter changed because it was leaking - gearbox no longer leaking after that solved.
9. Replaced gearbox oil after fixing leak
10. My aircon stopped working and it turned out to be a relay switch

Now even with all those changed I finally found another component and most possibly the last component thats leaking coolant. Mechanic said its most likely a bad headgasket because he can see a very small leak coming from the engine block. The leak has been happening since last year ever since I took up the car (you could say the car was already a mess when I picked it up)

Now I would fix this car without any further thinking but after driving this car for awhile I can firmly say this car lacks power to go uphill on flyovers in the city and most cars will be tailgating/cucuk me from behind most of the time.

Thus the thought of wanting to get another car that has some sort of power and can be reliable. I thought about the corolla's reliability and how cheap the wira are with parts, not to mention I'm quite a fan of the 4AGE thus I opted for a 20v one. But I don't want to tie myself down with a loan for like 5 years or so buying a brand new car when its just going to be sitting in my garage sounds like a waste. I was thinking about replacing my weekend car haha.

fixed alot...better keep the car for a while more....

in later years if the cars totally kong or not worth to repair anymore....then only looking for option again...

 

[sweelt]

But swap also cost $$$ and have it's fair share of problems too......lol

Swap really give wallet a big black hole. Hahaha..
But satisfaction make it sweet.

 

[Mitevo7]

Buy new Korean car, depreciation will be a lot.......lol

That's the truth that everyone can't deny, however, Korean cars are really great with modern touch, you have to get past the design and engine lack of performance, and occasionally spare part problems. So far Kia Forte has very good feedback from all my friends who owns them.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[Izso]

I go to work via carpooling with my friend

I do use the car during weekend and such (when I need to fetch my mom our bring my mom out) because I love driving the car. Honestly I'm very comfortable driving this car and I've kinda fixed up alot. Car still currently runs fine but there was leaks everywhere and I've fixed almost all of it. Almost. Can say since last year after I started taking care of the car since my dad is no longer around. I've fixed :

2018
1.Absorbers
2.Throttlebody -2nd hand
3. Service engine oil, coolant, and gearbox oil
4. Brakepads
5. Battery

2019
1. Standard service oil and oilfiter
2. Waterpump changed due to leak
3. Still leaking so mechanic said it was water jacket so decided to lift the engine up and replace all of the water jackets
4. Thermostat - all parts
5. Radiator Serviced + new header
6. All radiator hoses changed
7. Gearbox oil sump and oil filter changed because it was leaking - gearbox no longer leaking after that solved.
9. Replaced gearbox oil after fixing leak
10. My aircon stopped working and it turned out to be a relay switch

Now even with all those changed I finally found another component and most possibly the last component thats leaking coolant. Mechanic said its most likely a bad headgasket because he can see a very small leak coming from the engine block. The leak has been happening since last year ever since I took up the car (you could say the car was already a mess when I picked it up)

Now I would fix this car without any further thinking but after driving this car for awhile I can firmly say this car lacks power to go uphill on flyovers in the city and most cars will be tailgating/cucuk me from behind most of the time.

Thus the thought of wanting to get another car that has some sort of power and can be reliable. I thought about the corolla's reliability and how cheap the wira are with parts, not to mention I'm quite a fan of the 4AGE thus I opted for a 20v one. But I don't want to tie myself down with a loan for like 5 years or so buying a brand new car when its just going to be sitting in my garage sounds like a waste. I was thinking about replacing my weekend car haha.

Holy.... that's a lot of money spent in two years. And if your head gasket is leaking coolant - you better fix it fast before it leaks into the engine and kaboom. That will be a major bill btw.

If you're looking to replace your weekend car without being bogged with a loan - you better have a healthy budget. Say you buy a 4AGE corolla, that will set you back 20k thereabouts for a decent condition one. Then about 3-5k servicing and replacing all the bits and bobs that may need to change (unless you know the owner of the car and don't need to change too many things). I'm stupidly OCD so for me things like interior and engine condition etc all bother the hell out of me so I'd replace stuff just for peace of mind.

If not a Toyota, then a 6th gen Civic 1.6L is about 10k to 15k to buy and about 3-5k to fixup.

As an ex-Wira owner - I'd advise you not to go the Wira route anymore purely due to the age of the platform. 4Gxx engines are plentiful but the C97/98/99 chassis is old and finding a good condition rust-free + accident free unit is going to be tough although it's cheap. Protons back then just weren't great in terms of quality unlike the SEGs and Civics of yesteryear.

But don't rule out Proton altogether, the Satria Neo is a pretty good platform and quite a good drive. Plenty of parts, great driving dynamics, relatively cheap and plenty of engine swap options if you get itchy.

If you're really adventurous, BMW E36 is also reasonably affordable as long as you know where to go and where to look for parts. Anything newer than the E36 is going to be more expensive to look after. The E36 (318, 320, 325) are all great cars and space is comparable with other c-segment car. Online following is cult-like and you'd be surprised that you an still get new parts for cheap.

Personally I do not like the Atos. Like you said it's weak and I suspect you know that the parts is not cheap. Unfortunately resale is so bad you'll be hard-pressed to find a dealer to take your car for any money. But if you want to keep it for sentimental value then it's priceless. I don't think there's much you can do to mod it for more power. You might want to research to see if it's possible to plonk in a K3VE 1.3L engine and gearbox in. It'll be a huge improvement over the current engine and non-turbo K3VE engines aren't expensive.

Lastly - welcome to the darkside.....

 

[Izso]

cool down la... whatever car you drive sure another faster car will cucuk from behind... you've fixed a lot
seriously, want to get more power... get Wira and swap the engine. These two sifus @Izso and @vr2turbo can surely give some good advise

wahlau.. there are so many sifus here. All diam diam saja

 

[jon360x]

wahlau.. there are so many sifus here. All diam diam saja

Haha, I initially plan to repair it this coming service checkpoint. I've been driving it so far and I dont see any white smoke coming from the exhaust. I hope it holds up.

My mech said need to do top overhaul to see if the headgasket is warped or not. He said it will cost a few hundred and not up to a thousand. That im not too sure how much.

 

[gunnerzz]

Haha, I initially plan to repair it this coming service checkpoint. I've been driving it so far and I dont see any white smoke coming from the exhaust. I hope it holds up.

My mech said need to do top overhaul to see if the headgasket is warped or not. He said it will cost a few hundred and not up to a thousand. That im not too sure how much.

When u own a Proton, few hundred means less than RM500 most of the time.
When u own a Kia/Hyundai few hundred will be just below RM 1000.

 

[brokenjars]

Holy.... that's a lot of money spent in two years. And if your head gasket is leaking coolant - you better fix it fast before it leaks into the engine and kaboom. That will be a major bill btw.

If you're looking to replace your weekend car without being bogged with a loan - you better have a healthy budget. Say you buy a 4AGE corolla, that will set you back 20k thereabouts for a decent condition one. Then about 3-5k servicing and replacing all the bits and bobs that may need to change (unless you know the owner of the car and don't need to change too many things). I'm stupidly OCD so for me things like interior and engine condition etc all bother the hell out of me so I'd replace stuff just for peace of mind.

If not a Toyota, then a 6th gen Civic 1.6L is about 10k to 15k to buy and about 3-5k to fixup.

As an ex-Wira owner - I'd advise you not to go the Wira route anymore purely due to the age of the platform. 4Gxx engines are plentiful but the C97/98/99 chassis is old and finding a good condition rust-free + accident free unit is going to be tough although it's cheap. Protons back then just weren't great in terms of quality unlike the SEGs and Civics of yesteryear.

But don't rule out Proton altogether, the Satria Neo is a pretty good platform and quite a good drive. Plenty of parts, great driving dynamics, relatively cheap and plenty of engine swap options if you get itchy.

If you're really adventurous, BMW E36 is also reasonably affordable as long as you know where to go and where to look for parts. Anything newer than the E36 is going to be more expensive to look after. The E36 (318, 320, 325) are all great cars and space is comparable with other c-segment car. Online following is cult-like and you'd be surprised that you an still get new parts for cheap.

Personally I do not like the Atos. Like you said it's weak and I suspect you know that the parts is not cheap. Unfortunately resale is so bad you'll be hard-pressed to find a dealer to take your car for any money. But if you want to keep it for sentimental value then it's priceless. I don't think there's much you can do to mod it for more power. You might want to research to see if it's possible to plonk in a K3VE 1.3L engine and gearbox in. It'll be a huge improvement over the current engine and non-turbo K3VE engines aren't expensive.

Lastly - welcome to the darkside.....

Seg with blacktop not so expensive la.

I sold my toyota SEG ae101 with 6 speed blacktop 20v for 12.5k last year. Only exterior needs repaint and some touch up. Interior need very minor repairing. All in all i would say need around 5k for repair job. (3.5k for nice paint job and 1.5k for other minor repairs and servicing).

 

[vr2turbo]

Swap really give wallet a big black hole. Hahaha..
But satisfaction make it sweet.

Yah! agreed. After swap still got other mods, but the oomph you get can cover the black hole......hhahahhahahah

 

[vr2turbo]

When u own a Proton, few hundred means less than RM500 most of the time.
When u own a Kia/Hyundai few hundred will be just below RM 1000.

Yup, I own a Hyundai too, the Sonata III. Engine parts are quite ok, since my model base on Mitsu engine, but when comes to body parts, just simple engine mount and absorbers, will pass RM1k......urgh!!

 

[minibeany]

As an ex-Wira owner - I'd advise you not to go the Wira route anymore purely due to the age of the platform. 4Gxx engines are plentiful but the C97/98/99 chassis is old and finding a good condition rust-free + accident free unit is going to be tough although it's cheap. Protons back then just weren't great in terms of quality unlike the SEGs and Civics of yesteryear.

Lastly - welcome to the darkside.....

Have one C99 is good condition, rust-free, accident free and super low mileage. Park in the basement waiting to be awaken with a new heart.