Worth to buy 2nd hand mpv

[3309]

Hi All Sifu here.
I try to search any thread related to mpv but cannot find the info that i'm looking for.
And I'm sorry if someone already asked this before.

Actually I'm looking to buy a 2nd hand mpv with a range of RM70k up to RM100k.
In my mind there are a few:
1. Estima Turbo model. No matter 2.4, 3.0 or 3.5.(please suggest what model as there are too many models)
2. Honda Odyssey 2.4 i-vvti
3. Any other mpv please suggest.

My criteria is:
1. Powerful (because now i'm using turbo)
2. Comfort for up to 6 person
3. Less maintenance/Less problem
4. FC
5. Resale value

Thanks in advance everybody.

 

[stupidcar]

I wanted to say Exora CFE. Pretty spacious and low end torque is good. But resale value sure die.

 

[gunnerzz]

Criteria no 1 and 4 should not be put together in one list.
There is no such thing as powerful and good fc regardless of engine capacity when talking about MPV.

What i suggest is u go an see the MPV yourself. Its the tiny2 thing that can put u off like the non availability of cup holders, small space to store item, rear aircond blower.

Malaysia choice seems to favour the Estima.

 

[pangyau]

Alpard/Vellfire sure worth to buy...
Specious for family value just need to add some more on your budget.

 

[ken yeang]

hehehe, try mudah.com.
Use the advance search....

 

[3309]

I wanted to say Exora CFE. Pretty spacious and low end torque is good. But resale value sure die.

Im using lots of proton car before and the quality will be the main issue

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Criteria no 1 and 4 should not be put together in one list.
There is no such thing as powerful and good fc regardless of engine capacity when talking about MPV.

What i suggest is u go an see the MPV yourself. Its the tiny2 thing that can put u off like the non availability of cup holders, small space to store item, rear aircond blower.

Malaysia choice seems to favour the Estima.

Yes you're right, my mistake. Actually I drove both and bot have the criteria that Im looking for. That's why im looking for additional advice here. Appreciate your comments.

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Alpard/Vellfire sure worth to buy...
Specious for family value just need to add some more on your budget.

Sorry but I don't like that big and bulky thing.

 

[Izso]

For 70-100k, you can't get a decent MPV that has all your criteria unless it's at least 10 years old. A 10 year old 2.5L Estima sells for about 70k ish. Probably the first gen Odyssey will be within your price bracket.

But such old cars will give you a lot of maintenance headaches, unless you're willing to fork out massive amounts to do up the car completely after buying the car.

Resale value for anything non-Toyota is crap. So if this really is your criteria then you can only look at the Estima.

Powerful and spacious doesn't give you much choice again. Estima 2.5, Odyssey 2.4, Grandis 2.4 and erm.. that's about it since you're anti-Alphard (so am I to be honest).

Forget about the Exora CFE. If you do a quick google there are so many complaints about the car it's ridiculous. My friends 1 year old Exora CFE has had the dash removed 3 times, gearbox changed and all sorts of other things 6 times total (all warranty covered).

If you can look past the brand, go have a look at the Chery Eastar. Quite well equipped, 2.0 NA, quite spacious and most importantly - new. Test drive it and you might be surprised. Well within your budget too.

Otherwise if you can topup your budget a bit more, consider the Nissan Serena Hybrid or standard car. It's quite good and you'll rarely ever see one in a used car shop or for sale. No one ever sells theirs.

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Oh and you can forget about FC. As long as it's an MPV, it'll never have good FC unless it's a Avanza or Alza.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

For 70-100k, you can't get a decent MPV that has all your criteria unless it's at least 10 years old. A 10 year old 2.5L Estima sells for about 70k ish. Probably the first gen Odyssey will be within your price bracket.

But such old cars will give you a lot of maintenance headaches, unless you're willing to fork out massive amounts to do up the car completely after buying the car.

Resale value for anything non-Toyota is crap. So if this really is your criteria then you can only look at the Estima.

Powerful and spacious doesn't give you much choice again. Estima 2.5, Odyssey 2.4, Grandis 2.4 and erm.. that's about it since you're anti-Alphard (so am I to be honest).

Forget about the Exora CFE. If you do a quick google there are so many complaints about the car it's ridiculous. My friends 1 year old Exora CFE has had the dash removed 3 times, gearbox changed and all sorts of other things 6 times total (all warranty covered).

If you can look past the brand, go have a look at the Chery Eastar. Quite well equipped, 2.0 NA, quite spacious and most importantly - new. Test drive it and you might be surprised. Well within your budget too.

Otherwise if you can topup your budget a bit more, consider the Nissan Serena Hybrid or standard car. It's quite good and you'll rarely ever see one in a used car shop or for sale. No one ever sells theirs.

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Oh and you can forget about FC. As long as it's an MPV, it'll never have good FC unless it's a Avanza or Alza.

Alza la fits his requirement but then good FC but no power again.

I think best bet still Estima or maybe the Toyota Wish but the rear is not comfortable. More for kids.

 

[3309]

For 70-100k, you can't get a decent MPV that has all your criteria unless it's at least 10 years old. A 10 year old 2.5L Estima sells for about 70k ish. Probably the first gen Odyssey will be within your price bracket.

But such old cars will give you a lot of maintenance headaches, unless you're willing to fork out massive amounts to do up the car completely after buying the car.

Resale value for anything non-Toyota is crap. So if this really is your criteria then you can only look at the Estima.

Powerful and spacious doesn't give you much choice again. Estima 2.5, Odyssey 2.4, Grandis 2.4 and erm.. that's about it since you're anti-Alphard (so am I to be honest).

Forget about the Exora CFE. If you do a quick google there are so many complaints about the car it's ridiculous. My friends 1 year old Exora CFE has had the dash removed 3 times, gearbox changed and all sorts of other things 6 times total (all warranty covered).

If you can look past the brand, go have a look at the Chery Eastar. Quite well equipped, 2.0 NA, quite spacious and most importantly - new. Test drive it and you might be surprised. Well within your budget too.

Otherwise if you can topup your budget a bit more, consider the Nissan Serena Hybrid or standard car. It's quite good and you'll rarely ever see one in a used car shop or for sale. No one ever sells theirs.

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Oh and you can forget about FC. As long as it's an MPV, it'll never have good FC unless it's a Avanza or Alza.

Izso..agre with you...all of it almost 10 years old recon but outside look still nice. And if I can get a low mileage, it will be less problem I think.

And I'm not anti Alphard, just don't like the size. Don't like and anti is 2 different thing. Please don't get wrong.

Again agree with you on Exora.

As for Cherry, I don't think so because the resale value is bad.

Serena Hybrid very expensive lah for me. It is RM160k.

 

[C99D-MMC5537]

I know 1 mpv that very powerful but dont think it will fit your other criteria. Especially the no 5 one. Its a ford smax turbo. I never see any mpv accelerate as fast as this smax. Its really fast..

 

[gunnerzz]

Izso..agre with you...all of it almost 10 years old recon but outside look still nice. And if I can get a low mileage, it will be less problem I think.

And I'm not anti Alphard, just don't like the size. Don't like and anti is 2 different thing. Please don't get wrong.

Again agree with you on Exora.

As for Cherry, I don't think so because the resale value is bad.

Serena Hybrid very expensive lah for me. It is RM160k.

Thats the thing when buying 2nd hand. Lower mileage is most of the time better.
I'm not worry about the engine as if its well look after then it last easily last 500k km.
U r driving a turbo so i guess u know what to look for on the engine.

Have u consider the Stream?
Its 2.0 so save on roadtax.
Has the power but part tend to be pricy.

Buying the Exora Bold seems to be a gamble. my family has one and nothing is wrong so far. Went up Cameron with 6 adult and their luggage...smiling.
FC aint that bad, its how u drives it. However, engine is not the most refined around.
If not mistaken for 2012 model, value is 69k maybe less.Thats a lot of drop.

The Cherry is an underrated car.If the badge is different then its a different story.
This MPV is value for money compared to even the Wish..badge aside of course.

 

[3309]

I know 1 mpv that very powerful but dont think it will fit your other criteria. Especially the no 5 one. Its a ford smax turbo. I never see any mpv accelerate as fast as this smax. Its really fast..

Bro, you're right on the s-max...anyway it burst my budget almost double

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Thats the thing when buying 2nd hand. Lower mileage is most of the time better.
I'm not worry about the engine as if its well look after then it last easily last 500k km.
U r driving a turbo so i guess u know what to look for on the engine.

Have u consider the Stream?
Its 2.0 so save on roadtax.
Has the power but part tend to be pricy.

Buying the Exora Bold seems to be a gamble. my family has one and nothing is wrong so far. Went up Cameron with 6 adult and their luggage...smiling.
FC aint that bad, its how u drives it. However, engine is not the most refined around.
If not mistaken for 2012 model, value is 69k maybe less.Thats a lot of drop.

The Cherry is an underrated car.If the badge is different then its a different story.
This MPV is value for money compared to even the Wish..badge aside of course.

Honda Stream...hmmm...not bad at all.
But now I'm seriously considering Odyssey Absolute 2005 model. it gives you 200hp.
Estima now down to 2nd choice.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Bro, you're right on the s-max...anyway it burst my budget almost double

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Honda Stream...hmmm...not bad at all.
But now I'm seriously considering Odyssey Absolute 2005 model. it gives you 200hp.
Estima now down to 2nd choice.

Prius Hybrid lo then :hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

As for Cherry, I don't think so because the resale value is bad.

You buy 2nd hand, let first owner lose most of it first....hahhahahahha

I have a Chery SUV bought at RM80k, the next cheapest is the Hyundai and it cost RM140k. In 5 years it might sell for RM60k only, loss of RM80k, which I can afford to lose totally, because mine only RM80k and that does not include bigger amount of loan and interest....

 

[jerrysiow]

Prius Hybrid lo then :hmmmm:

Dude, TS asking MPV and not sedan. :)

 

[gunnerzz]

Bro, you're right on the s-max...anyway it burst my budget almost double

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Honda Stream...hmmm...not bad at all.
But now I'm seriously considering Odyssey Absolute 2005 model. it gives you 200hp.
Estima now down to 2nd choice.

In an MPV, the most important figure is the torque and at what point is it available.
If it offer 200hp at let say 6500rpm but max torque of 180Nm (which is enough) at 4k rpm, driving it can be tiresome.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

In an MPV, the most important figure is the torque and at what point is it available.
If it offer 200hp at let say 6500rpm but max torque of 180Nm (which is enough) at 4k rpm, driving it can be tiresome.

180nm of torque not enough for me

 

[gunnerzz]

180nm of torque not enough for me

Wah u so greedy one lah.
Thats why i said ;lets say"
Now most 2.0 in MPV can do above that figure.

How much u want?
I give u.
Too much torque without proper way of putting it down on the road will become problem oso.
The Exora bold with 205Nm at about 2k rpm is enough already to make abnormal wear occur on the front tire.
I wonder whats it like for the CFE engine if it were to bolted with a manual transmission.

 

[stupidcar]

Wah u so greedy one lah.
Thats why i said ;lets say"
Now most 2.0 in MPV can do above that figure.

How much u want?
I give u.
Too much torque without proper way of putting it down on the road will become problem oso.
The Exora bold with 205Nm at about 2k rpm is enough already to make abnormal wear occur on the front tire.
I wonder whats it like for the CFE engine if it were to bolted with a manual transmission.

CFE low end torque super good.

 

[ixeo]

Hi All Sifu here.
I try to search any thread related to mpv but cannot find the info that i'm looking for.
And I'm sorry if someone already asked this before.

Actually I'm looking to buy a 2nd hand mpv with a range of RM70k up to RM100k.
In my mind there are a few:
1. Estima Turbo model. No matter 2.4, 3.0 or 3.5.(please suggest what model as there are too many models)
2. Honda Odyssey 2.4 i-vvti
3. Any other mpv please suggest.

My criteria is:
1. Powerful (because now i'm using turbo)
2. Comfort for up to 6 person
3. Less maintenance/Less problem
4. FC
5. Resale value

Thanks in advance everybody.

1. Too old
2. Too expensive, your budget can get?
3. Used Perodua Alza + aftermarket turbo kit. Forged conrods, YRV pistons, turbo from YRV together with manifold, diverter valve, injectors, fuel pump, exhaust system together with E-Manage blue.

The aftermarket turbo kit will cost you less than RM10k if you do the recipe right.

Perodua cars are superbly easy to maintain and manage. Straightforward, no electrical issues (unless somebody screw it up)