Ultra Racing, user experience please?

[daremo]

nevermind....got problems with suspension liao...sigh
(creating a separate thread)

 

[well3]

used ultra racing bar on my ride... other than it visually nice... it does improved my cornering..

 

[tofu_manic]

dude, the front 3 point, rear 3 point, and fender bars were the best bang-for-buck mod ive ever done to my car

difference was like night and day

u get a much more solid feeling, the chassis acts more like one solid piece, better road-holding, and is much more stable at higher speeds

only downside is that u will feel it small bumps, holes on the road more than b4

just my opinion, id say chassis stiffening is first before coilovers, springs, absorbers...

otherwise the full potential from the coilovers wont be fully realised when the body is twisting and flexing

Cheers!

 

[ham_m2]

dude, the front 3 point, rear 3 point, and fender bars were the best bang-for-buck mod ive ever done to my car

difference was like night and day

u get a much more solid feeling, the chassis acts more like one solid piece, better road-holding, and is much more stable at higher speeds

only downside is that u will feel it small bumps, holes on the road more than b4

just my opinion, id say chassis stiffening is first before coilovers, springs, absorbers...

otherwise the full potential from the coilovers wont be fully realised when the body is twisting and flexing

Cheers!

yeap...i agree with u...
it can tackle sharp corner very good...

 

[martian]

It somehow protect you in case(touch wood) you're involve in an accident , if you happen to read march's issue of hypertune you'll see what i'm talking bout

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

so far i've experienced no downside using UR bars...

 

[JackWaiKit]

UR s.bar couldn't give u long life span of suspension...
infact it's just for stability of ur corner!

Nor mally cornering just categotize by 2:
in corner
out corner
If u have a better in corner settin(sometime life drift or current notmal car; soft), ur out corner would be slower...
harden spring & asb will give u out corner resp. but don't forget bout in corner nedd slower speed...

Stabilizer bar a part to control ur steering resp. especially after finish cornering, ur steering will faster to return to the home/straight position.

Some stabilizer bar can also adj the hardness like Cusco!

 

[tofu_manic]

UR s.bar couldn't give u long life span of suspension...
infact it's just for stability of ur corner!

Nor mally cornering just categotize by 2:
in corner
out corner
If u have a better in corner settin(sometime life drift or current notmal car; soft), ur out corner would be slower...
harden spring & asb will give u out corner resp. but don't forget bout in corner nedd slower speed...

Stabilizer bar a part to control ur steering resp. especially after finish cornering, ur steering will faster to return to the home/straight position.

Some stabilizer bar can also adj the hardness like Cusco!

so u r saying that it is better to have more body roll during corner entry? how come? curious

 

[sphiroth]

One downside is that the 3 point front strut bar making it harder for me to re-oil my air filter (need to take it out 1st).

 

[JackWaiKit]

sorry...maybe my language not as that good...

No but another way round!!!
More roll or stability will have better for corner out but not in!

 

[tofu_manic]

sorry...maybe my language not as that good...

No but another way round!!!
More roll or stability will have better for corner out but not in!

boss, body roll means more 'instability' not stability

just wondering how come with more 'instability' u can have better corner entry

 

[ariolz]

for me i can feel that i have more control of my car

 

[NA_Lover]

I'm actually planning to use UR sway bars as well.
It seems that the response from everyone seems to be quite encouraging.
Might be a sound investment for my tired corona chassis!
Next months salary then! haha..

 

[fct]

i feel the car more rigid after install the 4 point brace bar at the rear of my ride.
anyway i think depend on what kind of handling people r looking 4.
not say install all bar are good to a car.
sometime it will become more hard to drive/handling with too much 'reinforced'

 

[GT_AUTO]

for me,the stiffer the chassis,the better the car handle.the feed back from the steering to the
driver is also improve.try and pick what u think is necessary for your need.

 

[JackWaiKit]

boss, body roll means more 'instability' not stability

just wondering how come with more 'instability' u can have better corner entry

sorry dude...

Well i mean if there is combination with adj absorber, harder spring rate & rigidity
ur handling response will understeer...
isn't it?

 

[tofu_manic]

from what i noe la...most track cars have super kaw hard spring rates, and roll cages for rigidity

oh well...not a racer so i donno haha

 

[daremo]

my major problem is, i dunno WHAT to change/mod/add-on to improve my car's handling. i dunno much about cars. maybe put into scenario and question...
1. going into a corner, the car feel like going to flip-over due to the weight. already once or twice i hear the rear wheel(tyre?) skid in middle of a corner (its a long corner) so i quickly release gas pedal
2. question on chassis rigidity... they always say car chassis flex when taking corners, will the body flex back into normal position after we finish the corner?

 

[JackWaiKit]

ur rigidity won't cause much unless hi speed handling!!!

Change to sport spring 1st!!!
If still unstatisfy then change to adj...
Use 15 or 16" rims with flat surface tyres (my-o1, Yokohama, Advan neova) bu shorter life span!!!

But stiff car aren' comfort!!!

 

[daremo]

ur rigidity won't cause much unless hi speed handling!!!

Change to sport spring 1st!!!
If still unstatisfy then change to adj...
Use 15 or 16" rims with flat surface tyres (my-o1, Yokohama, Advan neova) bu shorter life span!!!

But stiff car aren' comfort!!!

yes yes, the tyres i already decided to change to 15" rims with proper tyres as soon as the current ones wear out :proud: (already feel so happy) but regarding sport springs hor, this part i need to compromise la... not that i dont like low-riding, stiff suspensions, BUT... the place i live, the roads very rough and some parts got rough bumps (rough, uneven road conditions eventhough is made of tar) so i shun the idea of too hard suspensions, else my dashboard will rattle even worse (now already rattle rattle). i love my wira so i intend to keep it for as long as i could, even when the roads no more wira! (ka pui)

i've read in forums about this A-Fuji gas absorbers, how are they? heard gas is harder/stiff than normal oil ones, so will this help improve handling even a bit, if i keep stock springs? mine is 1.5