Suspension - Testimonials please

[jenwhite]

Car: Toyota Corolla EE90 1991 1.3carb [convert 4age 20v BT]
Brand and model: GAB coil with stock kayaba absorber
Durability: already 1 year [till now still feel like new]
Roads used on: paved road around sungai petani kedah

*Optional
Comfort: not very comfy, but not as bad as coilover/adjustable suspension
Handling: good, give u confident around bend, and during cilok2 at 5000rpm :)
mechanic said handling will be better if match with GAB damper, but stiffer.

im curious to know where did you buy your suspension parts and how much did it cost...

 

[ddv_nk12]

Car: Honda Integra DB8
Brand and model: BC Racing
Durability: Have been using it for 4 months now, still too early to judge
Roads used on: All types of roads
Comfort: 4/10, parents don't like it
Handling: 7/10, cornering is good but have driven better handling cars

 

[zhestie]

yeah 4 months was too early to say its reliable but with the specs given I guess this is a great vehicle to have

 

[amrancharger]

Car: Perodua Viva 1.0 AT 2007
Brand and model: HWL hi lo (front and rear can adjust height) – actually this is for myvi
Spring rate: Cannot recall but if not mistaken it shud be 4k for front and rear cuz I inform the staff I want a comfortable ride
Durability: 2years and still using
Roads used on: Bumpy roads, jalan kampung and sometimes highway

Comfort: 5/10
It is actually quite comfortable to drive at normal speed of 80 to 100kmh. Especially when on highway with good road condition can be quite comfy eventhough doing 120kmh. However when encounter bumpy roads/jalan kampung or road humps, can feel that the suspension is quite stiff and everything is shaking. Need to be really slow and steady.

Handling: 6/10
If maintaining with a speed of 110 to 120kmh the car feels great. But going over the speed limit is gonna make me feel lose feedback from the car. Steering feels so numb/empty.

Downside:
After about 6 months there is a sound coming from the rear suspension. Since under warranty, send back for servicing. Then ok again. Now having sound again like klok, klok, klok. Especially when cornering hard or pushing the car to the limit. Eventhough not so loud but still obvious especially if I am alone and the radio was off.
I guess it is because of the coilover for the rear is one piece design with spring (dun recall watchu call this). And I think this is also the cause for the rear to feel much more bumpier. I have ride a viva with separate spring and absorber for the rear and it was not as bumpy as my car.
Fortunately it is still acceptable since my rear passengers can still sleep soundly during long journey balik kampung.

 

[samuelschick]

Car: Suzuki Swift Sport (ZC31S)
Engine: M16A 5MT
Brand and model: Tein Super Street
Spring rate: front 5kg, rear 4kg
Durability: using it for around 25k mileage
Roads used on: Mostly on bumpy roads, 20% of highway only as i'm living in Kelantan and the road condition here is pretty awful.

Comfort: 5/10
pretty bumpy at slow speed and uneven road and car always boucy around quite comfortable when cruising on 110km/h

Handling: 5/10
to me handling on this Tein Super Street is just so so, because it's too soft for my liking. 16 clicks damper adjustment but it's still quite soft even when i set it to full hard setting.

Downside:
too soft for my liking.





Brand and model: BC Racing BR Series
Spring rate: front 5kg, rear 4kg
Durability: just using it for around 5000 km. so far so good.
Roads used on: Mostly on bumpy roads, 20% of highway only as i'm living in Kelantan and the road condition here is pretty awful.
Comfort: 5/10
more stiffer but not the bouncy kind of stiff when compared to the Tein Super Street (even it's on same spring rates), the rebound is just right.

Handling: 7/10
now this is nice. handling is sharper and more straight forward. lesser body roll and giving me more confident on twisted road.

Downside:
There's no downside for this coilover just yet since i'm just using it for around 5k of mileage . so far i'm liking it almost half the price of my previous Tein Super Street but performed much better.

 

[Roger89]

Good thread..

Car: Wira SE 1.5 (A) a/b


Brand and model: Sachs Super touring abs (wira 1.6) + se springs front + 1.6 rear springs
Durability: 1 year then I upgraded (see below)
Roads used on: tarmac

Comfort: 7/10 ... Front abs did not match se springs as the absorber rate was harder. Has more body roll and stiff front sus. Rear was perfect match comfy and responsive.

Handling: 6/10. A lot of front body roll..

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Brand and model: HWL hi-lo soft-hard 6k front 4k rear
Durability: 1 month (still in use)
Roads used on: tarmac (malaysian roads)

Comfort: 6/10.. bumpy on slow speeds but comfortable on highways. Actually not too bad. I can give it a 7/10 oso because my level of tolerance is more than my passengers...

Handling: 7/10.. Car follows the contour of the road very well.. when I observe other stock cars the chassis dont go up and down so much but mine does haha.. The car does not oscillate more than once when hit a bump. Cornering is good with minimal body roll. But as all wira cars, u need to know how to create oversteer with the brake throttle and steering then the handling will be superb.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Car: Toyota Corolla Altis 1.8G
Brand: GAB SA + Stock Springs
Durability: 1 1/2 years +-
Roads used on: Mostly city drive with occasional bumpy roads and highways.
Comfort: 7/10 - A bit stiffer than the stock springs but still very comfortable.
Handling: 5/10 - Real nice when 1st installed, can feel the difference in cornering. Enjoyed it about 1 year+ then it begin to feel
like I'm using stock springs....

 

[Raymond852]

Hi all,I like many cars but i have civic 504 and i want to some information about my car
Car: Civic SO4
Engine: SOHC 1.6 Manual
Brand and model: Tokico OEM shock with original spring
Durability: I bought them brand new about 2 years ago and have covered about 50,000km. Recently could feel them going a bit soft and my front wheel hit the wheel arch when taking fast corners and hitting bump at the same time.
Roads used on: Highway (40%), kampung roads (40%), town (600%)


honda lift kits

 

[markblurberry]

Just curios Raymond, where can you get tokico shocks? I search for them high and low, and only found Kayaba. Why tokico? they are one of the best from Land of the Rising Sun, and they basically oem for many tuners - including TRD - not sure if they do it for Honda i.e Mugen etc.... Well TRD sportivo suspension which cost a mind blowing 6.5K is available at Wing HIn...and they are not serviceable, and they are oem by Tokico...probably the materials use is more quality...I am using one on my ride...they are great!!

 

[GasPedal]

im curious to know where did you buy your suspension parts and how much did it cost...

mr Jenwhite,
for my absorber i replace at sungai petani, kayaba gas type rm160 each, normal rm140.
for my coil spring i replace at kepala batas, GAB [at box mentioned cold rolled] rm620 complete set.
it still feels like new, i wonder when it gonna go soft....

 

[6UE5t]

Car: Toyota Mark X 250G (GRX120)
Brand: Tanabe NF Springs on stock dampers.
Durability: don't know, as the spring is only installed a few months ago and this is a recon 2008 car so don't know how old the stock dampers already.
Roads used: Mostly city drive mixed with highways.
Comfort: very nice, almost like stock springs, just slightly stiffer only.
Handling: slightly better than stock with less body roll and feels more planted.
Looks: just drop nicely with still 2 finger gap in all four corners when using 17' rims & 245/45 tires. Never scrape under body to any speed bumps or ramps yet neither any tires grinding to fender even when fully loaded with 5 people.

So overall happy with my purchase.

 

[infinity.melvin]

Somehow I can't fail to notice.. Some of you guys shared on better comfort at high speed with stiff springs n suspension. But lower comfort at low speed..

Is it true if suspension is tuned stiffer then it would provide better comfort at high speed? Because sometimes in town driving, I set low damping setting on my bc racing high low soft hard. And it's pretty comfy at town driving.. But when I go outstation, it's bumpy when I hit speed above 100 and beyond its even bumpier..

Was thinking if I set damping setting stiffer, would it help in this case? For better high speed comfort when going outstation. Sifus pls give some comment and feedback! Tq

 

[fazidk]

Car: wira sedan e3
Brand: Titan hi low adjustables
Durability: using it for nearly 7 yrs..only 1st service last year (entitled 2 free service s promised by Titan)
Roads used: Mostly city drive mixed with highways.
Comfort: front on 8kg 6kg rear...x too hard but tend to scrape when going on certain bumps..stick on road like on rails :) I'm planning to upgrade to 12kg fronts n 10kgs rear..(y?drove a fren's car on hwl wiz dis setting..excellent)
Handling: quite happy coz feel like on rails with less body roll and feels more planted.
Looks: just drop nicely with still 2 finger gap in all four corners currently on 16s...

So overall happy with my purchase.

 

[shiroitenshi]

Somehow I can't fail to notice.. Some of you guys shared on better comfort at high speed with stiff springs n suspension. But lower comfort at low speed..

Is it true if suspension is tuned stiffer then it would provide better comfort at high speed? Because sometimes in town driving, I set low damping setting on my bc racing high low soft hard. And it's pretty comfy at town driving.. But when I go outstation, it's bumpy when I hit speed above 100 and beyond its even bumpier..

Was thinking if I set damping setting stiffer, would it help in this case? For better high speed comfort when going outstation. Sifus pls give some comment and feedback! Tq

Yes, stiffer springs and appropriate damping gives better higher speed stability and comfort, but suspension setting isn't just about damping.

what damping adjusts are the rate/speed the springs compress/rebound, thus compression damping and rebound damping are adjustable on high end dampers where springs are changed often like in a track car. If you start to use the dampers to compensate weak springs, something is going to break.. usually the absorber seals.

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Car: wira sedan e3
Brand: Titan hi low adjustables
Durability: using it for nearly 7 yrs..only 1st service last year (entitled 2 free service s promised by Titan)
Roads used: Mostly city drive mixed with highways.
Comfort: front on 8kg 6kg rear...x too hard but tend to scrape when going on certain bumps..stick on road like on rails :) I'm planning to upgrade to 12kg fronts n 10kgs rear..(y?drove a fren's car on hwl wiz dis setting..excellent)
Handling: quite happy coz feel like on rails with less body roll and feels more planted.
Looks: just drop nicely with still 2 finger gap in all four corners currently on 16s...

So overall happy with my purchase.

price dude? I'm running 12/10atm on a civic... 10kg is seriously too stiff for rear.. 8kg also quite hard already, 12kg fronts an 7-8kg rear for wira is good enough i think, the difference is due to cast iron block so front naturally spring rate harder

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[fazidk]

Oh I got this bout 7yrs ago..price at that time I paid for was 2.8k..wiz 2 free service..x sure whether same applies now..

 

[johnsonlam]

Car: Nissan Sunny 130Y
Brand and model:
Front Shock : Monroe Sensatrac
Rear : TRD AE86 Adjustables
Springs : Dr Spring Lowered Spring
Durability: Monroe got soft after 2 years (I touge a lot), TRD Adjustables was halfcut and it was still working perfectly till my car died (10Years). Dr Spring springs had a 10years "No Drop" warranty. It did not drop
Roads used on: All types. Touge in Balik Pulau, A few Autocross, Gymkhana, Daily travel to work, Highways

Comfort: 7/10 This setup is nice for just 1 person or even with car load of 4
Handling: 9/10 It's just a Sunny. But after trying so many other mixture out there, this is the optimum (at a budget)

** Additional Note: Was given a chance to pilot a TiTAN Nissan Sunny in an Autocross. That setting blew me away.
This is the review i wrote in 2004 in this very forum
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...-suspension/601-titans-on-a-nissan-sunny.html

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Car: Honda Civic
Brand and model: Tanabe
Durability: Got it halfcut and preown by a friend. Never serviced, never change.
Roads used on: Mostly Tarmac. Touge in Balik Pulau, Daily travel to work, Highways

Comfort: 5/10 After owning it for a year, I started to look for a new car to buy... TOO HARD.
Handling: 8/10 Handles corners well, keep car low and minimal body roll. But a bit bouncy flying over bridges at high speed.

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Car: Toyota TE71
Brand and model: RS*R
Durability: Got it halfcut and this is a frankinstein car. Lasted till the day car died.
Roads used on: Mostly Tarmac. DRIFT, Touge and DRIFT....

Comfort: 8/10 Surprisingly on a stripped down TE71, It is actually very comfortable. Hard/Firm yet can daily driven.
Handling: 8/10 Almost 0 body roll, keep car low and well composed even after flinging at weird angles in a Drift.

RS

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Car: Lancer GLS
Brand and model: GAB SS Full Adjustables
Durability: 2 Years still running ok. However, wasn't satisfied with the tuning for my car.
Roads used on: Mostly Tarmac. Highways, Long distance traveling & Sepang Track a few times.

Comfort: 5/10 On low speed its ok. On high speed it's very bouncy. Worst in Soft settings. Hard settings, car will be jumping all over the place
Handling: 8/10 Reduce body roll compare to stock, keep car low (If adjusted low), On smooth surface, sticks to the road, Sepang... even the hardest setting is still not so hard...

Mono tube design absorbers. better than twin tube design

** Note : Needs to be customized or retuned to your liking if you buy it offshelf. Or maybe it's just me..

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Car: Lancer Evo X
Brand and model: Bilstein shocks with Eibach Springs
Durability: 4 years in Japan. Replacing soon. Front shocks internal bushins worned off. A bit disappointed since it's a Bilstein.
Roads used on: Mostly Tarmac. Highways, Sepang Track

Comfort: 10/10 Super love the comfort level in ANY speed. Behave well over bumps. Very comfortable at highspeed, have to check the Speedo to know how fast the car is going.
Handling: 9/10 Very good in almost every aspect. In Sepang, there are body roll (with ASC Off), but not too bad. (Also suspected because the shocks are worned off).

*** I am looking for alternative suspension sets too... for the time being, got a new set of Bilsteins shipped in from Japan to replace these... Damn happy with the stock suspensions.

 

[cvkit17]

Car: Myvi 1.5
Brand and model: KYB RS Pro Adjustables
Durability: Approaching 1 year
Roads used on: Normal road in KL
Rate and height : 6k front, 3k rear. 2.5 fingers front, 3.5 fingers rear
Comfort: 9/10 It feels like stock. But when the load exerted on the absorbers, it could get stiff because of the active damping. So some very uneven high speed highways can get a little bit bumpy.
Handling: 7/10 A lot better than stock. Body roll is less but still noticable (its a myvi, no body roll means it the roof and doors are removed). Can corner at 110kmh on compared to 80kmh using stock.
Price: RM1350 including installation.
Satisfaction: 8/10. For this price and this kind of comfort, quite satisfied la

 

[Izso]

Somehow I can't fail to notice.. Some of you guys shared on better comfort at high speed with stiff springs n suspension. But lower comfort at low speed..

Is it true if suspension is tuned stiffer then it would provide better comfort at high speed? Because sometimes in town driving, I set low damping setting on my bc racing high low soft hard. And it's pretty comfy at town driving.. But when I go outstation, it's bumpy when I hit speed above 100 and beyond its even bumpier..

Was thinking if I set damping setting stiffer, would it help in this case? For better high speed comfort when going outstation. Sifus pls give some comment and feedback! Tq

Kinda like what Shiro-taikor said. It's a combination of the right damper stiffness with springs. BC Racing is very similar to my Improve Hyperflex II. What spring rates you running on? For my Wira I am using 6k front and 4k rear. The damper clicks range between 7-9 clicks front and 6-7 rear. It's comfy at any speeds except when there's very uneven ground and I'm driving above 100km/h then sometimes I feel the car floating over the uneven ground and followed by a uncomfortable rally landing on the ground. It's bone jarring if I set it to my preferred 27 front 24 rear.

Which is why I rarely exceed 100km/h with this car in town unless I know the roads real nice like MEX . Haven't taken it on long distance trips yet.

 

[shiroitenshi]

Oh I got this bout 7yrs ago..price at that time I paid for was 2.8k..wiz 2 free service..x sure whether same applies now..

thanks. got an old school car want to custom a suspension. figured want to do it if its reasonable price now

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[fazidk]

thanks. got an old school car want to custom a suspension. figured want to do it if its reasonable price now

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Give them a call or better still...give them a visit..I assure u x b disappointed :)

 

[jerrysiow]

Car: Myvi 1.3
Brand and model: Zerone Hi Lo / Soft Hard adjustable
Durability: 1 year and a month (Still feel very stiff)
Roads used on: Normally is KLIA road to Cyberjaya.
Rate and height: 5k Front & 3K rear, 12 clicks front and 5 clicks rear. 3 fingers height all rounded.
Comfort: 5/10 Feel stiff on above setting. Can feel your body muscle is shaking when passing the yellow line on the road. Got try stiffer before and tak tahan. Rear passenger will complain it's too stiff and my elder sister refused to sit on my ride.
Handling: 7/10 Feel good in cornering paired with 195 55 R15 PS3 tyres. Not really bumpy or shaking while cruising on 110km - 120km in highway while going to Penang from Seremban. Feel great in highspeed comparing to normal speed while everyday i travel to work.

Car: Myvi 1.5
Brand and model: KYB RS Pro Adjustables
Durability: Approaching 1 year
Roads used on: Normal road in KL
Rate and height : 6k front, 3k rear. 2.5 fingers front, 3.5 fingers rear
Comfort: 9/10 It feels like stock. But when the load exerted on the absorbers, it could get stiff because of the active damping. So some very uneven high speed highways can get a little bit bumpy.
Handling: 7/10 A lot better than stock. Body roll is less but still noticable (its a myvi, no body roll means it the roof and doors are removed). Can corner at 110kmh on compared to 80kmh using stock.
Price: RM1350 including installation.
Satisfaction: 8/10. For this price and this kind of comfort, quite satisfied la

cvkit, ur rear is using 3k spring rate. Do any of your rear passenger complain to you before? Don know if i increase my spring rate will it be more comfy?

 

[cvkit17]

So far, nope. I ferried 2 heavyweight passengers before, 1 above 100kg and another 90kg. Both slept like pigs during our drive from Ipoh - KL. 3k is actually very soft...so if the damping rate is low, you'll get a sampan. Damping is good, its comfortable.

 

[infinity.melvin]

Kinda like what Shiro-taikor said. It's a combination of the right damper stiffness with springs. BC Racing is very similar to my Improve Hyperflex II. What spring rates you running on? For my Wira I am using 6k front and 4k rear. The damper clicks range between 7-9 clicks front and 6-7 rear. It's comfy at any speeds except when there's very uneven ground and I'm driving above 100km/h then sometimes I feel the car floating over the uneven ground and followed by a uncomfortable rally landing on the ground. It's bone jarring if I set it to my preferred 27 front 24 rear.

Which is why I rarely exceed 100km/h with this car in town unless I know the roads real nice like MEX . Haven't taken it on long distance trips yet.

My bc comes with front 5k and rear 3k springs. I've tried alot of combinations.. 10 front and 7 rear. Nice on normal roads but very bouncy on high speed outstation. I've also tried 0 front and rear and 5 front, 0 rear just to test how soft it is.. But apparently more of the bouncing..

Now im trying higher damping setting at 15 front 10 rear. Havent got a chance to test at high speed outstation travel. But town driving is bumpier than normal... Perhaps I'm running on toyo r1r which makes the ride harsher than on usual tyres? Previously running on 17" with norm road tyres and I set 10 clicks front 7 clicks rear. Pretty comfy town driving but bumpy on outstation high speed drive.. Sigh.. Still haven't found out best settings yet. Headache

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Just need to find the right setting for outstation high speed travel. Currently as I touch 110-120 above.. Really bouncy.. Luckily I'm driving alone. If I were to fetch anyone sure gonna be a vomit bag in my car... Sighhhhh

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There was once I was driving up till 180-200.. It's like riding a horse LoL

 

[KenDiriwan]

Car : Toyota Corolla 1996, AE111
Brand : Cusco
Model : Zero 2 (Hi-Lo Soft Hard)
Spring : Swift Front 7kg, Rear 5kg
Durability : Just have it installed for few weeks. Will see how it goes.
Roads used on : Mostly city drives. A slight 10-20% on highway i would say.

Optional
Comfort : 9/10, prolly this is because my first set of adjustable coil-over. So i was expecting too much of harsh ride but turns out all fine.
Handling : ??, i'll leave this part unknown until i properly try it out but at the moment it is a positive feeling.
Setting : Front 195/50/15 T1R, Rear 195/55/15 NT5000. These sidewalls aren't hard enough for whacking around.
Camber : Front -1.4, Rear -1.1
Wheels : Enkei RPF-1, 15x7jj, +35offset.

 

[mh wong]

been using local made hi-lo, without softhard adjustable, setting 5 times, finally front 6, rear 4, quite happy wif te comfy, onlyyyyy.......sometime feel like no absorber......mayb due to the front n rear travel stroke not match,.....fren said my car not stable, unpredictable,.......finally bought bc fr taiwan......coz.....when i seat on my fren car wheresb front 10kg, rear 8kg, on normal road cruising, more comfort compare to my local custom 6k front, 4k rear.......wat a waste of money n time.....

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bcoz of long stroke, on windy road, feel like not stable, xpecially downhill cornering,....fren told me if u want to play cornering...... have to use short stroke.....