3sge Beam vs 4age Bt

[xMika]

3SGE beams redtop are either front wheel drive from the toyota celica or rear wheel drive in midship configuration of the toyota mr2 ..

the 3SGE beams blacktop comes in the toyota altezza/ lexus IS200.. rear wheel drive only ... 6 speed manual ..

the 3SGE blacktop beams into ae101 are quite a big project la cause need to change the engine from longitudinal to transverse .. the gearbox location and mounting all have to mod .. expensive lor ...

 

[francbs]

oooic thanks for the explanation

 

[2 Old 2 Rusty]

wah, now xMika is the spokesperson for 3SGE Beams already ar...

 

[OnlyToyota]

newer engine with vvti :proud:

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thanks

if not mistaken, 2zzge need to modified engine mouting which JPJ will give troublesome..

 

[francbs]

if not mistaken, 2zzge need to modified engine mouting which JPJ will give troublesome..

how to check about it whether if jpj will approve it or not? btw anyone know the price range for 2zzge ?

 

[Katsumoto]

2zzge is famous for oil pump failure if you over rev the engine , so try to keep the rpm at 7k mark

 

[xMika]

if you want to use 2zzge in the AE chassis .. only need to fabricate custom bracket for the left side of the engine ... right side use back the old mounting .. as long as there is no welding done to the chassis, jpj wont kacau ... brakes la most important .. brake also need to upgrade if not sure fail ..

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@2o2r

All these infos are shoved in my throat for quite sometime already ... about 2 years + lor .. graduated from the 3S engine already .. hahaha .. now lowest ranking spokesperson hehe ...

 

[feipepe]

my vote goes to 4AGE BT..

lots can be done to the engine..

it can go up to 1950cc with a stroker kit

can put ARC induction box, Tom's intake, FGK extractor, Toda cam, standalone ECU

it can go more than 230 horsepower..

and get a 6speed gbox.. sure can tapau stock 3SGE after u've done all of the above..

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but if u lazy.. just get a 3SGE

bro zul,
as u mentioned, 4age bt can go up stroker kit to 1950cc? then using what type engine of stroker kit u mentioned? normally if not mistaken, 4age just can be transplant block 7afe.:proud:

 

[D7zul]

bro zul,
as u mentioned, 4age bt can go up stroker kit to 1950cc? then using what type engine of stroker kit u mentioned? normally if not mistaken, 4age just can be transplant block 7afe.:proud:

actually it's a racing stroker kit from speed racer.. here's the website

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usually, they recommend 1900cc for daily use

 

[feipepe]

actually it's a racing stroker kit from speed racer.. here's the website

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usually, they recommend 1900cc for daily use

haha,
i found this thread before ....but aftermarket malaysia got such thing to sell?

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Can consider 2ZZ-GE I heard is really powerful in of my friend's friend SEG. 6spd Manual.

 

[D7zul]

haha,
i found this thread before ....but aftermarket malaysia got such thing to sell?

i think if somebody here buy it.. they would probably use it until it blows up .. don't u think?

i already ask the price.. AUS$ 5,950 to ship in the stroker kit.. not including tax..

u do the math

 

[feipepe]

i think if somebody here buy it.. they would probably use it until it blows up .. don't u think?

i already ask the price.. AUS$ 5,950 to ship in the stroker kit.. not including tax..

u do the math

wah....like that...i assume
AUS1=RM2.5
then
AUS5,950=RM14875

like that, better i used 3sgte and modify to front wheel also not such expensive cost...:wavey:

 

[me2kimi]

You also can get 1850cc when oversize 7a block to 83mm

 

[xMika]

no point getting the 4age and stroke it lor unless you got big wallet la no one can stop you from doing so .. but rationally speaking .. a 1.6L block can only get you that far ... if you really plan to mod the internals, 3sge beams also can be stroked to 2.2L wit HKS stroker kit .. but need to import from USA lor.. and Toda high cams also available .. 4 individual throttle also one of the common mods .. but guess the total cost ?

2zzge or 3sge beams is the best choice here .. since the 4age bt halfcut so expensive @.@ but 2zzge also about the same price as the 4age blacktop haha .. expect around RM6k ...

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btw, TS only wanted engine transplant wor .. why got so many ideas about mix and match the engine block & trying to increase the engine displacement lol ...