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[6UE5t]

It is good being objective and not biased. Perhaps that is why you can do well in Malaysia. ...



Never heard of Advan V105 before. ...

So, I guess to ensure good grip in all conditions on the road, the best one can go for will be max category?

Normally tyres without grooves are considered as above max already isn't it? Like R1R?

Ok la, I'm doing enough just to get by in life, still very much struggling kuli.

Advan V105 is the second generation/improved Advan Sport (full name Advan Sport V105).

Yah above Max already starting to loose performance in the wet coz too focused on dry grip (extreme, then semi slicks, then slicks).

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I think wet grip depends on grooves to channel away water isn't it? Parada Spec 2 only has 1 groove... If so, then tyres like R1R certainly fares very poor in wet...

Grooves and compounds as well. The grooves are mainly to channel out water and therefore to resist aquaplaning. But the compound also needs to stick on the wet surface if got no water puddles or once the water already channeled out. Wet performance got 2 aspects: aquaplanning resistance if in very wet/heavy rain with puddles, and also grip in the wet surface without puddles. PS3 is well known for the best in aquaplaning but not necessarily also the best for grip in the wet surface without puddles. CSC5 in the reviews has better grip than PS3 in the wet surface without puddles but PS3 has better aquaplaning resistance.

 

[vr2turbo]

I just remembered one more. Corsa. Accelera I only got to know it recently from my relative's 275/30/19 on his 350Z. Forceum and Neuton, never heard before.

Do we have any extreme or semi slick tyres from our local brands like Silverstone, Sime Tyre?

I think wet grip depends on grooves to channel away water isn't it? Parada Spec 2 only has 1 groove... If so, then tyres like R1R certainly fares very poor in wet...

Actually, Corsa is another brand under Achilles and Forceum is under Accelera.

Silverstone have semi slick called FTZ RR and slick is called FTZ Slick

R1R are extreme tyres so poor in the wet is nothing, as it will be more for dry track....

As explained by bro. 6UE5t, first we need grooves to channel water away, so that the rubber can contact the road surface (aquaplane resistance). How good your rubber compound, if the rubber cannot touch the road surface is of no use.....lol. Once the rubber can touch the road surface traction have to be in place that is where the compound comes in.....

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Ok la, I'm doing enough just to get by in life, still very much struggling kuli.

Advan V105 is the second generation/improved Advan Sport (full name Advan Sport V105).

Yah above Max already starting to loose performance in the wet coz too focused on dry grip (extreme, then semi slicks, then slicks).




Grooves and compounds as well. The grooves are mainly to channel out water and therefore to resist aquaplaning. But the compound also needs to stick on the wet surface if got no water puddles or once the water already channeled out. Wet performance got 2 aspects: aquaplanning resistance if in very wet/heavy rain with puddles, and also grip in the wet surface without puddles. PS3 is well known for the best in aquaplaning but not necessarily also the best for grip in the wet surface without puddles. CSC5 in the reviews has better grip than PS3 in the wet surface without puddles but PS3 has better aquaplaning resistance.

Don't say that you are a kuli. For you to be able to own a Mark X, I think you are doing much better than many other Indonesians over here.

From the look of it, Advan V105 thread pattern kinda resembles Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

Aquaplaning is the scary thing when it comes to driving on wet conditions. If between PS3 and CSC5, I think I'll be more inclined to go for PS3. By the way, is CSC5 more expensive than PS3?

Actually, Corsa is another brand under Achilles and Forceum is under Accelera.

Silverstone have semi slick called FTZ RR and slick is called FTZ Slick

R1R are extreme tyres so poor in the wet is nothing, as it will be more for dry track....

As explained by bro. 6UE5t, first we need grooves to channel water away, so that the rubber can contact the road surface (aquaplane resistance). How good your rubber compound, if the rubber cannot touch the road surface is of no use.....lol. Once the rubber can touch the road surface traction have to be in place that is where the compound comes in.....

I guess those Silverstone don't really have much good reviews? Rarely heard about them. The common semi slick that I tend to hear over here are R888, A050 and Z221.

Well, from what I heard (not sure is true or not), AD-08 can still do well in wet despite being an extreme tyre. Is that true? But if you ask me, I think R1R's thread pattern looks more aggressive and track inclined than AD-08.

So, aquaplaning resistance is a more important aspect than wet grip?

 

[vr2turbo]

Don't say that you are a kuli. For you to be able to own a Mark X, I think you are doing much better than many other Indonesians over here.

From the look of it, Advan V105 thread pattern kinda resembles Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

Aquaplaning is the scary thing when it comes to driving on wet conditions. If between PS3 and CSC5, I think I'll be more inclined to go for PS3. By the way, is CSC5 more expensive than PS3?



I guess those Silverstone don't really have much good reviews? Rarely heard about them. The common semi slick that I tend to hear over here are R888, A050 and Z221.

Well, from what I heard (not sure is true or not), AD-08 can still do well in wet despite being an extreme tyre. Is that true? But if you ask me, I think R1R's thread pattern looks more aggressive and track inclined than AD-08.

So, aquaplaning resistance is a more important aspect than wet grip?

Most of the top tyres almost same pattern dy. PSS, PS3, CSC5, CSC6, Asy2, Asy3, V105, T-1Sports, Falken FK453, FK510...

CSC5 is like PSS category mah!

Aquaplaning resistance and compound go hand in hand. One without the other does not work well.....

 

[6UE5t]

Don't say that you are a kuli. For you to be able to own a Mark X, I think you are doing much better than many other Indonesians over here.
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Aquaplaning is the scary thing when it comes to driving on wet conditions. If between PS3 and CSC5, I think I'll be more inclined to go for PS3. By the way, is CSC5 more expensive than PS3?
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So, aquaplaning resistance is a more important aspect than wet grip?

Old first gen Mark X and lower spec (not sport pack) version though.

Well both equally important depending on the driving conditions at hand. CSC5 might be marginally behind PS3 in aquaplaning resistance but again that's a small margin so it's still very good and better than like maybe 98% of tires out there! It's grip in the wet without puddles I'd say is excellent and predictable. For the size 225/50/17 that I use, I got a good deal of only rm500 all inclusive. I don't think you can get PS3 for that price about 9-10 mths ago but in general usually CSC5 is a bit more expensive. Very happy with it, probably the best tire I've used so far.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Most of the top tyres almost same pattern dy. PSS, PS3, CSC5, CSC6, Asy2, Asy3, V105, T-1Sports, Falken FK453, FK510...

CSC5 is like PSS category mah!

Aquaplaning resistance and compound go hand in hand. One without the other does not work well.....

These tyre threads looked more like tyres suited for cars who want grip and comfort at the same time instead distinct looking thread patterns like T1R, Parada Spec2...

Actually, soft compound is preferred over hard compound isn't it?

Old first gen Mark X and lower spec (not sport pack) version though.

Well both equally important depending on the driving conditions at hand. CSC5 might be marginally behind PS3 in aquaplaning resistance but again that's a small margin so it's still very good and better than like maybe 98% of tires out there! It's grip in the wet without puddles I'd say is excellent and predictable. For the size 225/50/17 that I use, I got a good deal of only rm500 all inclusive. I don't think you can get PS3 for that price about 9-10 mths ago but in general usually CSC5 is a bit more expensive. Very happy with it, probably the best tire I've used so far.

Doesn't matter which version of Mark X. Still not an easy car to take care of, I think. 2.5 litre V6 is not cheap on maintenance.

So, CSC5 performance is almost as good as PS3 then? How about on dry? I din't do much research on conti tyres because a few have been criticizing continental tyres over here.

 

[6UE5t]

These tyre threads looked more like tyres suited for cars who want grip and comfort at the same time instead distinct looking thread patterns like T1R, Parada Spec2...

Actually, soft compound is preferred over hard compound isn't it?



Doesn't matter which version of Mark X. Still not an easy car to take care of, I think. 2.5 litre V6 is not cheap on maintenance.

So, CSC5 performance is almost as good as PS3 then? How about on dry? I din't do much research on conti tyres because a few have been criticizing continental tyres over here.

Yes softer compound is preferred for better grip, but not too soft that it will be finished too fast like extreme or higher tires. Maybe tread wear rating around 200-350 is sufficient.

Maintenance is still very reasonable for a D-segment car, and luckily this car has been very reliable too.

Well maybe even better overall. Dry performance is excellent, very good grip and also predictable. Like I said, the best tire I've used so far in terms of performance but still not sure of durability though coz still <1 year using it. One thing I noticed also, this CSC5 has not yet chipped on me yet. Last time my F1-D5 was already starting to show some chipping by now. Anyway maybe need to wait another year or so to really verify.

 

[vr2turbo]

These tyre threads looked more like tyres suited for cars who want grip and comfort at the same time instead distinct looking thread patterns like T1R, Parada Spec2...

Actually, soft compound is preferred over hard compound isn't it?

T1-R is directional and Parada Spec 2 pattern is rough

In Racing soft compound for wet and hard compound for dry. For daily use, manufacturer sort of come out with something in between, that is why got so many category for consumer to choose accordingly to their priorities..........lol

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Yes softer compound is preferred for better grip, but not too soft that it will be finished too fast like extreme or higher tires. Maybe tread wear rating around 200-350 is sufficient.

Maintenance is still very reasonable for a D-segment car, and luckily this car has been very reliable too.

Well maybe even better overall. Dry performance is excellent, very good grip and also predictable. Like I said, the best tire I've used so far in terms of performance but still not sure of durability though coz still <1 year using it. One thing I noticed also, this CSC5 has not yet chipped on me yet. Last time my F1-D5 was already starting to show some chipping by now. Anyway maybe need to wait another year or so to really verify.

Well, if the compound is too soft, it also means that the tarmac is also like sort of tearing away the rubber compound as you go.

Sounds like a really good tyre. You are using them on all four wheels?

T1-R is directional and Parada Spec 2 pattern is rough

In Racing soft compound for wet and hard compound for dry. For daily use, manufacturer sort of come out with something in between, that is why got so many category for consumer to choose accordingly to their priorities..........lol

Directional means you can't really rotate your tyres between left and right isn't it?

Oh, I thought softer is better as it grips? Isn't that the same for tyre air pressure? Higher pressure for lower rolling resistance while lower pressure for higher grip?

 

[vr2turbo]

Directional means you can't really rotate your tyres between left and right isn't it?

Oh, I thought softer is better as it grips? Isn't that the same for tyre air pressure? Higher pressure for lower rolling resistance while lower pressure for higher grip?

You can rotate directional tyres left to right, but you have to pay more to un-mount them, flip them over, mount back then rotate....lol

Soft compound totally defers from air pressure loh! More air over inflate the tyres thereby less contact on the road. Less air under inflate center no contact will wear out shoulders....

 

[6UE5t]

Well, if the compound is too soft, it also means that the tarmac is also like sort of tearing away the rubber compound as you go.

Sounds like a really good tyre. You are using them on all four wheels?
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Hmm should not be torn away, but just chipping which is still not too bad, like my F1-D5 or PS3.
Yes it's an excellent tire in terms of performance. I'm using CSC5 at the front but the older version CSC3 at the rear which is also still a very good tire, just a bit lesser grip.

 

[vr2turbo]

Hmm should not be torn away, but just chipping which is still not too bad, like my F1-D5 or PS3.
Yes it's an excellent tire in terms of performance. I'm using CSC5 at the front but the older version CSC3 at the rear which is also still a very good tire, just a bit lesser grip.

Time for CSC6 for next round......

 

[RENESIS VIII]

You can rotate directional tyres left to right, but you have to pay more to un-mount them, flip them over, mount back then rotate....lol

Soft compound totally defers from air pressure loh! More air over inflate the tyres thereby less contact on the road. Less air under inflate center no contact will wear out shoulders....

Speaking about air pressure, I am still confused on what pressure should I pump onto my tyres. 185/60/14. Any recommended readings?

 

[vr2turbo]

Speaking about air pressure, I am still confused on what pressure should I pump onto my tyres. 185/60/14. Any recommended readings?

Air pressure usually I recommend 30 to 32psi for most sizes. The lower the profile actually need more air pressure. What does your car manual recommend? you can follow that too

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Air pressure usually I recommend 30 to 32psi for most sizes. The lower the profile actually need more air pressure. What does your car manual recommend? you can follow that too

Well, because my stock ones are 175/70/13 and now my current ones are 185/60/14, so I thought perhaps the stock rates may not be suitable?

 

[6UE5t]

Time for CSC6 for next round......

Cannot, CSC6 only 19' above.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Cannot, CSC6 only 19' above.

Sometimes I wonder why manufacturers do this by putting the minimum size to be this large. I mean, at 19" and above, they can't really be able to attract a lot of buyers.

 

[vr2turbo]

Well, because my stock ones are 175/70/13 and now my current ones are 185/60/14, so I thought perhaps the stock rates may not be suitable?

Normally for daily use air pressure can range from 28 to 36psi.
I recommend 30psi because tyres being porous loses some air with time, so if use 28psi drop to 26psi is very low. From 30 drop to 28psi still ok....
As mentioned the lower the profile more air pressure. My 215/45R17 is around 33psi, my SUV 235/60R16 uses 30psi only.
Then again if the tyre sidewall is soft better increase slightly also.

 

[vr2turbo]

Cannot, CSC6 only 19' above.

Change rims, lower the profile some more......lol

 

[vr2turbo]

Sometimes I wonder why manufacturers do this by putting the minimum size to be this large. I mean, at 19" and above, they can't really be able to attract a lot of buyers.

Why? because premium model for top category only....