Need Recommendations for Car Battery

[^pomen_GTR^]

Huh over 800cca?? That's like more than double normal rating for my NS60L size, but yours is also bigger size battery. How much did you pay for that?

rm310 for 55D23L battery including trade in and work on site

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

Thats very interesting data..
I did search on the net about Amaron and their website is full of customer complaint in India.However all the complaint i read is for motorcycle battery.
Could be that export has better quality.

i did that research to...

and guess what...

their older gen amaron battery last over 5 years from beginning :stupid::stupid::stupid:


even if current amaron battery lasted 3-4 years that is hella great already...


as compared to current century is quite problematic too... my friend kena just lasted 6 months....



btw my previous battery was cheaper batter,,forgot what brand... but last quite long which is about 4 years...and only dead because i accidentally forgot to turn off cabin light multiple time...and also my power amp haywired...the amp keep power on even the car is switched off...


so hoping this amaron could last atleast about the same time as previous battery

<a href="https://ibb.co/dRgVJa"><img src="https://thumb.ibb.co/dRgVJa/IMG_20170812_180630.jpg" alt="IMG_20170812_180630" border="0"></a>

 

[vr2turbo]

My century battery lasted 3 and a half years.......lol

 

[6UE5t]

Have you got a heat shield for the battery? Most of the batteries I have been using last around 18 months to 2 years only. Then I add a heat shield for my Chery SUV, and that battery lasted 3 and a half years and that was a normal marathoner only.
Same time did heat shield for my Hyundai. My Hyundai uses the clamp at the bottom and the only battery that have the edge for the clamp was the Century hybrid non MF type. Even that lasted 3 years.

On my Mark X there's like a plastic casing that wrap around the battery. It also sits just right in front of the firewall and behind a fuse box which kinda shield it a bit from the engine. Maybe I can try make additional shield if possible.

Have you check whether you have parasitic leak? Meaning some equipment drawing power even though car is off

Nope, I suspect maybe just my alarm and immobilizer. I also got 2 powered cheapo China made under seat powered subs, not sure if those also are parasitic. With my Marathoner last time cannot last more than 5 days idle. Then with the Delkor initially (maybe within the first 6 months, can alst up to 1 week, but then lately cannot.

The Bateriku recommendation came from Pomen too

Anyway, I recommended them because their batteries are cheap. I've asked the price for the same NS40 battery elsewhere and it's all 190 and above. For 165 regardless of brand, that's cheap.

I've been a huge supporter of Amaron since their batteries have a failing indicator similar to panasonic. Unlike other brands that just out of the blue die off, Amaron and Panasonic both give off tell-tale signs like a struggling starter, dimming lights, etc before completely dying off after a week. Other brands I've come across seem great until it isn't.

That 200+ was from bateriku?

NS40 actually can get below rm160 for most MF batteries.

The Yokohama in my wife's Livina was able to give some signs as I can see it gets weaker during cranking (like a slight 1 or 2 coughs instead of immediate cranking), plus the airbag sign on the Livina lights up just a few seconds after cranking up (normally should stay off). That sign lasted pretty long for several months before I finally decided to change it.

Anyway, to update you all, I actually now already bought a new Century Ultramax NS60L for rm200 all inclusive, and no charge for using credit card. I bought it from Kochi Batteries nearby Subang. Was tempted coz it's the best price I can get for the Ultramax and the cheapest battery with 21 month warranty. The spec says 443 CCA which seems to be one of the highest for NS60L but not sure if true or not. Was thinking about the Amaron but price is more expensive (around rm250) for the Hi-Life type with 18 month warranty.

Anyway thank you all for the recommendations. We can still continue to talk and share using this thread though.

 

[vr2turbo]

On my Mark X there's like a plastic casing that wrap around the battery. It also sits just right in front of the firewall and behind a fuse box which kinda shield it a bit from the engine. Maybe I can try make additional shield if possible.



Nope, I suspect maybe just my alarm and immobilizer. I also got 2 powered cheapo China made under seat powered subs, not sure if those also are parasitic. With my Marathoner last time cannot last more than 5 days idle. Then with the Delkor initially (maybe within the first 6 months, can alst up to 1 week, but then lately cannot.

Oh! if got casing already and placed away from radiator fan, then should be ok. My Chery SUV the battery placed right behind radiator fan. When I send battery for claim, the shop mentioned the battery is too hot, can even touch the casing.

My VR battery same case. If left for a few days then cannot start. Thought battery gone, so bought new battery but after a few days also went dead. Send for claim they test and say nothing wrong with battery. So I did test using my digital meter and found my ignition drawing current, so now when I park at home for long period I pull the fuse out. Battery now almost 2 years still running......lol

 

[ixeo]

izso just changed to amaron... anybody been using amaron? as in have some history of its lifespan

i used Bosch Mega Power Silver S5 or some crap the high end one..really crap.. kaput right on the dot after warranty. Yuasa Wet.. also so so... GP made in Korea surprisingly not too bad but quite expensive..

Century Marathoner.. inconsistent.. Now I'm using some Yokohama co-branded..Yokobatt... seems like next round I'll go for Amaron..thanks for sharing izso

 

[6UE5t]

I was actually considering to buy just a wet/hybrid type battery coz much cheaper. In my old cars back then in Jkt, these batteries actually lasted much longer, at least 3 years plus (one even almost 5 years!). Not sure if such batteries today still have the same quality & endurance or not.

 

[vr2turbo]

I was actually considering to buy just a wet/hybrid type battery coz much cheaper. In my old cars back then in Jkt, these batteries actually lasted much longer, at least 3 years plus (one even almost 5 years!). Not sure if such batteries today still have the same quality & endurance or not.

The spare part shop I am getting the batteries from, the difference in price between MF and non MF differs RM10 to 20 only. However for my Hyundai I need to clamp the battery at the side bottom and only the non MF have that edge. MF model do not have that edge so was forced to use non MF. However the battery did last up to 3 years and by the time it lost it's power I have not fill up the battery before and the acid level was still full....

 

[6UE5t]

The spare part shop I am getting the batteries from, the difference in price between MF and non MF differs RM10 to 20 only. However for my Hyundai I need to clamp the battery at the side bottom and only the non MF have that edge. MF model do not have that edge so was forced to use non MF. However the battery did last up to 3 years and by the time it lost it's power I have not fill up the battery before and the acid level was still full....

Wet batteries should be much cheaper, I can get my same size for just around rm130-140.

 

[KenDiriwan]

Got my entry Amaron from Vin Battery (door step service). Just marked a year of usage now, lets see how it goes :)

Their page facebook.com/vinbattery/

 

[vr2turbo]

Wet batteries should be much cheaper, I can get my same size for just around rm130-140.

You are using N40/NS60 size so be careful when they are too cheap. Way back I was working in battery manufacturing firm. Expensive/Good NS60 can have up to 13 plates per compartment, Normal is 11 plates. Cheaper version are 9 plates, not sure if maybe they even reduce them to 7 plates.......lol

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

btw... my older battery is INCOE brand... that was said got extra plate than other normal battery...


could that was the cause giving me longer lifespan eventhough it was downsized (from oem spec 55D23L) in my car last time... :hmmmm:

 

[Izso]

On my Mark X there's like a plastic casing that wrap around the battery. It also sits just right in front of the firewall and behind a fuse box which kinda shield it a bit from the engine. Maybe I can try make additional shield if possible.

NS40 actually can get below rm160 for most MF batteries.

Anyway, to update you all, I actually now already bought a new Century Ultramax NS60L for rm200 all inclusive, and no charge for using credit card. I bought it from Kochi Batteries nearby Subang. Was tempted coz it's the best price I can get for the Ultramax and the cheapest battery with 21 month warranty. The spec says 443 CCA which seems to be one of the highest for NS60L but not sure if true or not. Was thinking about the Amaron but price is more expensive (around rm250) for the Hi-Life type with 18 month warranty.

Anyway thank you all for the recommendations. We can still continue to talk and share using this thread though.

I do that for all my batteries that are in the engine bay. Wrap in superlon and reflective material. Keeps the battery relatively cooler and seems to last longer. The plastic cover alone isn't enough. Wanna wrap go extreme! Hehehe. Superlon + alu tape.

Ultramax u need to be careful. This range of Century is infamous for dying exactly after warranty. They don't seem to last very long. Once you reach the 1 year marker - keep a watch out for this battery. Last time it just stopped working for me, no warning, no tell-tale signs, nothing. Apparently it's a thing for this battery.

izso just changed to amaron... anybody been using amaron? as in have some history of its lifespan

i used Bosch Mega Power Silver S5 or some crap the high end one..really crap.. kaput right on the dot after warranty. Yuasa Wet.. also so so... GP made in Korea surprisingly not too bad but quite expensive..

Century Marathoner.. inconsistent.. Now I'm using some Yokohama co-branded..Yokobatt... seems like next round I'll go for Amaron..thanks for sharing izso

I've only ever used Bosch S5 once - don't remember if it's any good. GP is good yeah. But hard to source, I haven't seen anyone hold that brand for a while now.

Incidentally, the Panasonic that I just changed out was a Feb 2015 battery. So not too bad for 2 years of usage and gradually dying off rather than instant death. So far out of my 4 current cars (5 including the one I just sold) 3 running Amarons and 2 Panasonics. The Panasonics are all close to 3 years now and the Amarons are sub 1 year so can't give much feedback. All the entry level Amarons, not the high amp one.

 

[vr2turbo]

btw... my older battery is INCOE brand... that was said got extra plate than other normal battery...


could that was the cause giving me longer lifespan eventhough it was downsized (from oem spec 55D23L) in my car last time... :hmmmm:

More plates, more juice......lol

 

[vr2turbo]

I do that for all my batteries that are in the engine bay. Wrap in superlon and reflective material. Keeps the battery relatively cooler and seems to last longer. The plastic cover alone isn't enough. Wanna wrap go extreme! Hehehe. Superlon + alu tape.

Ultramax u need to be careful. This range of Century is infamous for dying exactly after warranty. They don't seem to last very long. Once you reach the 1 year marker - keep a watch out for this battery. Last time it just stopped working for me, no warning, no tell-tale signs, nothing. Apparently it's a thing for this battery.

What I did for mine is to block the air flow from the radiator fan using the aluminum sheet bought from Daiso. These sheets are meant for use in the kitchen cook stove to block oil splattering etc. Measure and cut to size wrapping a cardboard inside then fitted to block hot air hitting the battery. So far looks like proven as my Chery battery lasted 3 and a half years. Hyundai one 3 years 3 months and VR one already pass 2 years. Those days before heat shield mod max around 2 years only.

For my Chery SUV I did try out the Ultramax, suppose to warranty 21 months but died at 18 months. Send for claim and that was where the shop personnel mentioned the battery was very hot. They gave me a Marathoner in exchange and that was the one that lasted 3 and a half years with heat shield....

 

[6UE5t]

You are using N40/NS60 size so be careful when they are too cheap. Way back I was working in battery manufacturing firm. Expensive/Good NS60 can have up to 13 plates per compartment, Normal is 11 plates. Cheaper version are 9 plates, not sure if maybe they even reduce them to 7 plates.......lol

Well I meant for those popular common brands. For wet battery, we can take a peek thru the water hole to see right?

I do that for all my batteries that are in the engine bay. Wrap in superlon and reflective material. Keeps the battery relatively cooler and seems to last longer. The plastic cover alone isn't enough. Wanna wrap go extreme! Hehehe. Superlon + alu tape.

Ultramax u need to be careful. This range of Century is infamous for dying exactly after warranty. They don't seem to last very long. Once you reach the 1 year marker - keep a watch out for this battery. Last time it just stopped working for me, no warning, no tell-tale signs, nothing. Apparently it's a thing for this battery.



I've only ever used Bosch S5 once - don't remember if it's any good. GP is good yeah. But hard to source, I haven't seen anyone hold that brand for a while now.

Incidentally, the Panasonic that I just changed out was a Feb 2015 battery. So not too bad for 2 years of usage and gradually dying off rather than instant death. So far out of my 4 current cars (5 including the one I just sold) 3 running Amarons and 2 Panasonics. The Panasonics are all close to 3 years now and the Amarons are sub 1 year so can't give much feedback. All the entry level Amarons, not the high amp one.

Oh so you've used the Ultramax too? Hmm we'll just have to see then. My previous Marathoner gave some signs but quite quickly, unlike the Yokohama (but the Yokohama was used on the smaller Livina).

GP is good too? Actually there are many selling this brand but I just could not find any specs or reviews on it hence I pass this time.

 

[6UE5t]

What I did for mine is to block the air flow from the radiator fan using the aluminum sheet bought from Daiso. These sheets are meant for use in the kitchen cook stove to block oil splattering etc. Measure and cut to size wrapping a cardboard inside then fitted to block hot air hitting the battery. So far looks like proven as my Chery battery lasted 3 and a half years. Hyundai one 3 years 3 months and VR one already pass 2 years. Those days before heat shield mod max around 2 years only.

For my Chery SUV I did try out the Ultramax, suppose to warranty 21 months but died at 18 months. Send for claim and that was where the shop personnel mentioned the battery was very hot. They gave me a Marathoner in exchange and that was the one that lasted 3 and a half years with heat shield....

Yeah I know those aluminum sheets, I had used once before for the kitchen! I'll try make the shield for my batteries later.

Oh you also had used Ultramax once before. As long as it died during warranty then still ok, not right after warranty!

 

[vr2turbo]

Well I meant for those popular common brands. For wet battery, we can take a peek thru the water hole to see right?

Yup, for wet type can see from the filler hole. Both ends are the negative plates, separated by a separator sheet, so count individually.

Actually for MF battery there are filler holes too. They are under the sticker. Peel the sticker and you will see the filler holes. There will be 6 flat caps over the holes. However if you peel that off can void warranty......hhahahhahahha

 

[ixeo]

I do that for all my batteries that are in the engine bay. Wrap in superlon and reflective material. Keeps the battery relatively cooler and seems to last longer. The plastic cover alone isn't enough. Wanna wrap go extreme! Hehehe. Superlon + alu tape.

Ultramax u need to be careful. This range of Century is infamous for dying exactly after warranty. They don't seem to last very long. Once you reach the 1 year marker - keep a watch out for this battery. Last time it just stopped working for me, no warning, no tell-tale signs, nothing. Apparently it's a thing for this battery.



I've only ever used Bosch S5 once - don't remember if it's any good. GP is good yeah. But hard to source, I haven't seen anyone hold that brand for a while now.

Incidentally, the Panasonic that I just changed out was a Feb 2015 battery. So not too bad for 2 years of usage and gradually dying off rather than instant death. So far out of my 4 current cars (5 including the one I just sold) 3 running Amarons and 2 Panasonics. The Panasonics are all close to 3 years now and the Amarons are sub 1 year so can't give much feedback. All the entry level Amarons, not the high amp one.

Sounds like the Panasonics are quite amazing, are they more expensive than the Amarons? And where you get em'

 

[6UE5t]

Oh ya, aside form those I mentioned at the start of this thread, I think I've used a brand called Aurora as well. This one was the battery that came new with my Mark X when I bought it. I think it's decent, lasted over 2 years but it only gave a little sign of weakening before it went dead.

Example is like this below on sale in Lazada:
http://www.lazada.com.my/aurora-ns6...category-120123000000.0.0.ReGtTv&ff=1&sc=EY4M