Buying advice for Evo and Impreza

[6UE5t]

Currently, it seems that only Nissan's Nismo is still showing a lot of support for performance cars. They are still doing new demo cars using Skyline GT-R. I think their latest demo car is a BCNR33 Skyline GT-R. The motorsport division of other manufacturers seems to be sitting quite idly nowadays...

ZTH got a lot of rich sifu. But most of them not active now. I remember there is this GT-R sifu here who owns a few Skyline GT-R himself.



The last one would be the Super VR-4 EC5A with 6A13TT. I think should be 20 years ago already.

The latest GTR R35 got Nismo version ma, the one that did 7:08 in the Nur.

6A13TT VR4 was released until 2003, so almost 15 yrs ago.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

The latest GTR R35 got Nismo version ma, the one that did 7:08 in the Nur.

6A13TT VR4 was released until 2003, so almost 15 yrs ago.

That is why I said, Nissan is the only one left who still show a lot of support for performance cars. The other manufacturers are not doing anything much.

 

[vr2turbo]

The last one would be the Super VR-4 EC5A with 6A13TT. I think should be 20 years ago already.

That one not popular here. The 4G63T one is....

 

[RENESIS VIII]

That one not popular here. The 4G63T one is....

Everyone calls that VRG over here regardless is it standard NA or turbo version.

Yours of course is the legendary one. Mention VR-4, straight away people will think about yours.

 

[vr2turbo]

Everyone calls that VRG over here regardless is it standard NA or turbo version.

Yours of course is the legendary one. Mention VR-4, straight away people will think about yours.

I actually like the VRG shape but since not popular probably problem with maintenance over here....:rolleyes:

 

[sweelt]

I actually like the VRG shape but since not popular probably problem with maintenance over here....:rolleyes:

agree, vrg looks wont aged ....
anyway you should feel proud. not much vr4 on the road, i think collectible already.

 

[vr2turbo]

agree, vrg looks wont aged ....
anyway you should feel proud. not much vr4 on the road, i think collectible already.

Don't see much on the road because compared to other makes sure less loh....

 

[Tom]

Well, in TTA, there are also drivers with more 'ordinary' cars beating supercars. Like I remember there is this EK9 turbo who beat supercars like McLaren MP4-12C. Perhaps this is a case of good vs bad driver? No matter how I see it, it is impossible that a well engineered machine that took millions of development cost like McLaren MP4 can lose to a 20 year old hatch modded by local tuners. The EK is probably at its highest limit while the McLaren could still be far from its limits.

Well, in TTA, there are also drivers with more 'ordinary' cars beating supercars. Like I remember there is this EK9 turbo who beat supercars like McLaren MP4-12C.

On the circuit, especially in Time Attack events, there's virtually no limits to how much you can do. These competitors are aiming at 1 or 2 magical laps and that's it.

Perhaps this is a case of good vs bad driver?

Hands down driver is key here

No matter how I see it, it is impossible that a well engineered machine that took millions of development cost like McLaren MP4 can lose to a 20 year old hatch modded by local tuners.

why not? Any noob in an F1 car versus Hamilton in a Civic will see the same fate. The machine depends on the operator.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

On the circuit, especially in Time Attack events, there's virtually no limits to how much you can do. These competitors are aiming at 1 or 2 magical laps and that's it.



Hands down driver is key here



why not? Any noob in an F1 car versus Hamilton in a Civic will see the same fate. The machine depends on the operator.

Aiming for 1 or 2 magical laps? This sounds a bit like the car is not really suitable for longer duration drive. So, if we are talking about like 10-20 laps of endurance, perhaps the stock supercars might fare better than these track cars built to break the lap time record?

In a way, you are saying that the driver is the most important key in TTA. The machine might only help to a certain extent in deciding the outcome of the race.

 

[ixeo]

why not? Any noob in an F1 car versus Hamilton in a Civic will see the same fate. The machine depends on the operator.

Noob in F1 car = crash.

Hamilton in a stock Kancil vs Noob in stock GTR with traction on = Noob wins.

Aiming for 1 or 2 magical laps? This sounds a bit like the car is not really suitable for longer duration drive. So, if we are talking about like 10-20 laps of endurance, perhaps the stock supercars might fare better than these track cars built to break the lap time record?

In a way, you are saying that the driver is the most important key in TTA. The machine might only help to a certain extent in deciding the outcome of the race.

Er, TTA is time attack.. not Le Mans.. The car is not suitable for longer duration driving for sure. Watch The Grand Tour episode 6 where they talk about Le Mans.

When everybody is throwing THAT much money at TTA, the playing field is almost level (engineering prowess also come into play), but the major difference is drivers. Making ONE braking error would cost a lot on the time sheet..

 

[6UE5t]

Noob in an F1 car might not even able to crawl the F1 car for 5 meters!

 

[sweelt]

First corner already spinning out....hehehe
Noob in F1

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Noob in F1 car = crash.

Hamilton in a stock Kancil vs Noob in stock GTR with traction on = Noob wins.



Er, TTA is time attack.. not Le Mans.. The car is not suitable for longer duration driving for sure. Watch The Grand Tour episode 6 where they talk about Le Mans.

When everybody is throwing THAT much money at TTA, the playing field is almost level (engineering prowess also come into play), but the major difference is drivers. Making ONE braking error would cost a lot on the time sheet..

Depends on what track the Kancil and GT-R is in. If very tight track, Kancil can win. We give full slick tyres to Kancil while downgrading the tyres for GT-R.

Hmm, I've heard before a few people saying about how endurable their NA cars is in track. Specifically Honda VTEC users arguing against turbo car owners like Evo, STI... Not sure how true is this but these people claim that if a NA VTEC engine is racing for endurance with high powered turbo cars, the turbo cars will lose out...

Throwing money into the car is one thing, but one must look at which platform are they throwing money into. Couldn't really say the playing field is level since some platform have higher potential than others. But at the end, the driver makes the most difference like you said. If let's say both teams throw in 50k into an Evo and a Satria. If the Satria is driven by a better driver, probably it might even be faster than the Evo despite Evo being the platform with more potential.

 

[sweelt]

Don compare NA vs turbo, lol
Never ending debate. Diff categories. Hehehe

 

[KeeSeong]

Hi sifus..

Since all sifus here talking about evo and sti... can i ask hmmm what kind of problems normally face by STI or boxer engine??

coz I'm thinking to look for an STI (due to loan still available for an AWD).. I'm evo fans but too pricey for a cash buy only car :(( so an awd and powerful car + manual trans i think STI the only choice?

Previously tot of getting a Mazda MPS (year 2012) but found out the price is about the same as STi (year 2008) but i don really care the year made.. most important is what I want rite?? haha

What I worried is, is it really a lot of problems for a boxer engine?? Can all sifus advise? ...Many thanksss

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Hi sifus..

Since all sifus here talking about evo and sti... can i ask hmmm what kind of problems normally face by STI or boxer engine??

coz I'm thinking to look for an STI (due to loan still available for an AWD).. I'm evo fans but too pricey for a cash buy only car :(( so an awd and powerful car + manual trans i think STI the only choice?

Previously tot of getting a Mazda MPS (year 2012) but found out the price is about the same as STi (year 2008) but i don really care the year made.. most important is what I want rite?? haha

What I worried is, is it really a lot of problems for a boxer engine?? Can all sifus advise? ...Many thanksss

Good question. I would like to know more about the common problems in STI too since I'm interested in these cars.

 

[ixeo]

Hi sifus..

Since all sifus here talking about evo and sti... can i ask hmmm what kind of problems normally face by STI or boxer engine??

coz I'm thinking to look for an STI (due to loan still available for an AWD).. I'm evo fans but too pricey for a cash buy only car :(( so an awd and powerful car + manual trans i think STI the only choice?

Previously tot of getting a Mazda MPS (year 2012) but found out the price is about the same as STi (year 2008) but i don really care the year made.. most important is what I want rite?? haha

What I worried is, is it really a lot of problems for a boxer engine?? Can all sifus advise? ...Many thanksss

Pain in the ass changing spark plug on the STi.

 

[KeeSeong]

Pain in the ass changing spark plug on the STi.

Lol.. means is very expensive changing the spark plug for sti?? If is just spark plug issue I think most car also need to change for me should be okay lo...

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Lol.. means is very expensive changing the spark plug for sti?? If is just spark plug issue I think most car also need to change for me should be okay lo...

Is not about very expensive but more of the difficulty in workmanship. Because the cylinder head of the boxer engine is located quite deep below the engine and they are facing the sides of the engine bay. Troublesome to remove and replace the plugs.

Therefore, what I know is, most owners will use longer lasting plugs such as Iridium plugs on their boxer engines because it will be troublesome to frequently replace the spark plugs.

 

[marsha1l_v6]

my future car too..hopefully in 3 years time..STI

Anyway, i did survey and ask mechanic/friends that service/using sti,

Not much of a problem for the sti, Require proper/periodic maintenance and service, everything is ok.

so far i know metal gasket issue and clutch bearing.