more cheap stuff...pls refer
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=93475
and
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=92539
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=93475
and
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=92539