Typical timing for street cars at Sepang SIC

[akuma]

jdm_supplies,
hahahaha...who killed ur confidence?any1 else wud like 2 share their lap videos?

 

[jdm_supplies]

jdm_supplies,
hahahaha...who killed ur confidence?any1 else wud like 2 share their lap videos?

haha....no one yet....but just gong dor mou wai....

 

[akuma]

jdm_supplies,
aiyo..dun like dat lar....thn take action lor..come come..i loan u my vid cam + tripod...i set it up in WXX1212 4 u,ok?

 

[rx8dorifto]

my racechrono vid: RX8 6MT NA, KW Coilover, Whiteline swaybars, HKS muffler, Federal RS-R.

HOT Tire pressure 29psi front, 28psi rear. Should have use 30-32psi all round. Tire wear extensively.

YouTube- TCC 30 Oct 09 Sepang RX8 6MT

 

[pdreams]

bro, i know is not TOTALLY stock n thats y i quoted the parts changed lar so that pdreams can do his benchmarking.... am definitely not worthy to be compared with all the sifus here but i strongly believe a TOTALLY STOCK condition fd2r can do below 2:42 with a LIGHTER & BETTER driver.

Hi jdm_supplies,

Thank you for providing your friend's lap for me to benchmark, serves as reference but not correlated for benchmarking for me.

Let's talk about the 2m42s with reflash that your friend did. Have you considered the effect of a reflash at a circuit like Sepang? Everything changes from rate of acceleration, to top speed, to earlier vtec point changeover etc etc. Its a power game from here onwards. Is it worth a few seconds per lap? All things being equal, I would say yes. For every second that your friend spends at a max. speed of 200km/h compared to mine of 192km/h, he would gain 2m over me. Imagine the gap he's pulling throughout the entire lap.

To say that he will do a 2m45s in a totally stock car is as good as me saying that I think I can do a 2m42s in a totally stock car i.e. it means nothing. Same applies for MME/HMRT driver who has done a lap of 2m42s but no proof. Of course, no one has to prove anything to anyone. I am merely saying, go one more step after believing, do it and quantify it in the process.

Transponder timing has no bearing about the car. Other than showing a time it shows nothing about the car or the driver. Today, video (try GoPro) and data acqusition are cheap (RaceLogic PBox) compared to the kind of parts being put onto the car. There's no excuse for any enthusiast to not quantify their laps if they want to be serious about the sport. And serious in this case, in the context of say football, means buying a ball and some boots. The basic.

I am of the belief that anytime ANYTHING that affects the car to do an ultimate fast lap is changed, it is NOT STOCK. Its funny how STOCK has evolved.

Case: An FD2R did a 2m41s recently, the car was stock I was told. Upon finding out, I think no one ever intended to present it as stock but word of mouth made it stock (it had exhaust, speedcut and a top of the line Tein coilover). Can such a lap be benchmarked? Guess not since a tricked out suspension can really achieved something (minimally 0.5s/1 min, likely more).

Cheers

 

[faisal]

hahaha an FD2R lap times sure is hot topic in this thread.

 

[pdreams]

hahaha an FD2R lap times sure is hot topic in this thread.

Hi Faisal,

Guess its a coincidence plus the FD2R is probably the most $ for $ street car that can do trackwork as well.

But I think if someone said, e.g. 2m45s in a stock Swift Sports, it would be a hot topic as well.

Cheers

 

[jdm_supplies]

hahaha an FD2R lap times sure is hot topic in this thread.

haha....looks like for the next FD2R trackday, if there ever is one again, HM should actually organize a time attack session in a stock HM FD2R instead of some potong steam slalom trackday... =p
that should settle the case study once n for all..........

 

[faisal]

haha....looks like for the next FD2R trackday, if there ever is one again, HM should actually organize a time attack session in a stock HM FD2R instead of some potong steam slalom trackday... =p
that should settle the case study once n for all..........

jdm_s,

Time Attack, Now that's an idea.

Or we could just put Rueben W or Aaron L drivin HMSB's stock FD2R with all attending owners to bear witness.

BTW u are refferring to the carpark slalom as potong stim, right?

 

[jdm_supplies]

jdm_s,

Time Attack, Now that's an idea.

Or we could just put Rueben W or Aaron L drivin HMSB's stock FD2R with all attending owners to bear witness.

BTW u are refferring to the carpark slalom as potong stim, right?

it was a good initiative by HM but a total of 5-6 laps behind a stock standard civic doing ard 4 minutes, 5-6 laps on owner's own, and another 2 runs of sub 30s slalom runs is definitely a waste of 3 hours track time. anyway this will be getting offtopic, PM me.

 

[Laptimer]

last time my fren who got alot of experience racing car drove my ex evo 7 stock
everythingstock even stock boost
still have 180kmh cut
when he show me the laptimer i couldn't believe my eyes!! 2:31.47!!!!
he oso drive my another frens RX8 stock under 2:39.31

 

[pdreams]

last time my fren who got alot of experience racing car drove my ex evo 7 stock
everythingstock even stock boost
still have 180kmh cut
when he show me the laptimer i couldn't believe my eyes!! 2:31.47!!!!
he oso drive my another frens RX8 stock under 2:39.31

Wow, I bet he's having a startling racing career now. Either that or he's simply forgotten like so many incredible drivers.

Sure makes the Evo7 a much better proposition than say the current R35GTR. Then again, am sure that your friend will probably do a 2:15 in a R35GTR and possibly 1:30 in an F1 car also.

Had some doubts on my doubts on the Evo7 timing but when I carried on reading about the RX8 timing, all doubts were dispelled. Enthusiasts have been recorded to do a timing 2-3% slower than the racer who drives for a career. So let's see, for 3% variance,

1) If your friend was the racer, that would put a typical timing of an enthusiast at 2:43.

2) If your friend was not the racer, that would put a real pro timing at 2:34.

For 1) I have never seen any stock RX8 doing 2:43 at a trackday stock so far.

2) 2:34 for a stock RX-8 in the hands of a racer is really incredible.

To quote what I learnt from this thread,

"So make of what u will, to believe or not the time done."

Am cheeky but no malice intended.

Cheers

 

[rx8dorifto]

Wow, I bet he's having a startling racing career now. Either that or he's simply forgotten like so many incredible drivers.

Sure makes the Evo7 a much better proposition than say the current R35GTR. Then again, am sure that your friend will probably do a 2:15 in a R35GTR and possibly 1:30 in an F1 car also.

Had some doubts on my doubts on the Evo7 timing but when I carried on reading about the RX8 timing, all doubts were dispelled. Enthusiasts have been recorded to do a timing 2-3% slower than the racer who drives for a career. So let's see, for 3% variance,

1) If your friend was the racer, that would put a typical timing of an enthusiast at 2:43.

2) If your friend was not the racer, that would put a real pro timing at 2:34.

For 1) I have never seen any stock RX8 doing 2:43 at a trackday stock so far.

2) 2:34 for a stock RX-8 in the hands of a racer is really incredible.

To quote what I learnt from this thread,

"So make of what u will, to believe or not the time done."

Am cheeky but no malice intended.

Cheers

I know a guy who always tell ppl that he knows a guy who can drive this fast that fast...so when he bullshitting I just hear but not listen. Wonder what he get by bullshitting that how fast OTHER ppl is, instead of himself...no point right? unless he got proof la...

 

[pdreams]

I know a guy who always tell ppl that he knows a guy who can drive this fast that fast...so when he bullshitting I just hear but not listen. Wonder what he get by bullshitting that how fast OTHER ppl is, instead of himself...no point right? unless he got proof la...

Hi rx8dorifto,

Thanks for saying that. I learnt about the fine difference between hearing and listening. :)

Actually, I also do not understand why people do alot of BShitting. I guess its because it always happens in the past and we, who hear or listen, can hardly ever proof if its BShitting. Perhaps the thrill is there.

But I agree that proof is required for any claims, more so if it was meant to aid the forum or other enthusiasts in understanding more about what can be achieved.

Cheers

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Hi,

Just want to say a "Thanks" to slick who thanked my post.

Realised the forum here has an interesting feature where one's posting can be "Thanked".

Cheers

 

[slick]

Hi,

Just want to say a "Thanks" to slick who thanked my post.

Realised the forum here has an interesting feature where one's posting can be "Thanked".

Cheers

It's an obvious BS, and you need to be thanked for speaking up ;)
Cheers.

 

[minivan]

Wow, I bet he's having a startling racing career now. Either that or he's simply forgotten like so many incredible drivers.

Sure makes the Evo7 a much better proposition than say the current R35GTR. Then again, am sure that your friend will probably do a 2:15 in a R35GTR and possibly 1:30 in an F1 car also.

Had some doubts on my doubts on the Evo7 timing but when I carried on reading about the RX8 timing, all doubts were dispelled. Enthusiasts have been recorded to do a timing 2-3% slower than the racer who drives for a career. So let's see, for 3% variance,

1) If your friend was the racer, that would put a typical timing of an enthusiast at 2:43.

2) If your friend was not the racer, that would put a real pro timing at 2:34.

For 1) I have never seen any stock RX8 doing 2:43 at a trackday stock so far.

2) 2:34 for a stock RX-8 in the hands of a racer is really incredible.

To quote what I learnt from this thread,

"So make of what u will, to believe or not the time done."

Am cheeky but no malice intended.

Cheers

Could be that or a faulty stopwatch

 

[Laptimer]

bros i oni say this as example that pple can say anyting about their own time or their fren time dunno what LAST TIME do this do that
can tok anyting can say got laptime can say got data god vid
but all these is uselss unless is shown unless got proof!!! my example is all fake one and many other people tok one is all FAKE!!! Dun believe anyting without PROOF!!!!! even good fren got lie one!!!

 

[pdreams]

bros i oni say this as example that pple can say anyting about their own time or their fren time dunno what LAST TIME do this do that
can tok anyting can say got laptime can say got data god vid
but all these is uselss unless is shown unless got proof!!! my example is all fake one and many other people tok one is all FAKE!!! Dun believe anyting without PROOF!!!!! even good fren got lie one!!!

Hi Laptimer,

I see what you mean, now I understand you are on the same page as the rest of us.

My bad if my posting seemed offensive.

You are right, even good friends lie. Crazy stuff in tracking, I guess thats what they call EGO.

They should make a car call the EGO for these people.

Cheers

 

[akuma]

dis is like the "fish dat got away story ler"....manage d 2 land a selar kuning,d fella claim he got a barracuda!hahahahahha

 

[Laptimer]

actually sure 2:42 stock CTR can be done by very good driver cos i got see before good driver do 2:43 so i dun really doubt what faisal say. HMRT driver sure fast one
prob better than anyone who post on dis thread
but of course will be nice to see for myself one day

is the other people tok cock one that i straight tell them TOK COCK!!! HMRT driver 2:42 but still dare say 2:37? 5 second better than factory driver in same stock car? TOK COK!!!! i see many good driver difference compare pro driver not even 2 sec then suddenly got 5 sec
must be asia schumacher who not yet discovered yet
should be hire by F1 team soon
SIAO