Skunk2 cam using skunk valvespring or supertech?

[alex27]

Has any1 tried skunk2 tuner cam stage 1? I'm planning to get them. Planning to use d cam with tuner valvespring n stock retainer. But a fren offer me supertech valvespring. Aren't d supertech too stiff? Feedbacks any1 or comment?

 

[eg9_05]

supertech just fit n nice

 

[alex27]

I know d supertech wud fit. But isn't it too stiff. Seat pressure is 70 pounds. Won't this cos wear quickly. Skunk2 Tuner is at 50 pounds. Furthermore if using supertech vs n using stock retainer. Wont my retainer break easily due to stiff vs. Comments any1? Let me know. As i can save budget

 

[pencalat]

Has any1 tried skunk2 tuner cam stage 1? I'm planning to get them. Planning to use d cam with tuner valvespring n stock retainer. But a fren offer me supertech valvespring. Aren't d supertech too stiff? Feedbacks any1 or comment?

have tried this s2 tuner3... very smooth n best idling....
mild to end power is good...
if s2 tuner 1 better you take the jun3 la...

 

[alex27]

i mean the supertech vs. any1 tried them b4? a lot of pple in uSA using supertech, but they use in high applications. If light cams for everyday using supertech vs with stock retainer. can it be use everyday?
Jun too expensive the cams hehe

 

[pencalat]

aiyah... even tep r cam can costs around rm1k++....
find some 2nd hand skunk2 or jun3 oso around rm2k++...
last time i sold mine jun3 cam below 3k....

 

[alex27]

ok ok u win. i have the cam already in hand la hehe
hey abt the supertech vs how? hehe can use?

 

[pencalat]

u got s2 tuner 1 eh???
ok la can fit with stock retainer... oso the same with supertech ma...
dun too overrevvin sudah...
heheh.... rite

 

[alex27]

even no over rev. but the super tech vs seems hard oh..

 

[pencalat]

hehe.. afraid the vspring eat the cam meh....

 

[eg9_05]

like that better u use what u plan to use lo..since u takut this n takut that
finish story,...

 

[D-IV]

I guess you didn't get your answer. Anyway, i'm using the , old model last time and pressure was about 70lbs. Basically it can clear using s2s2 to SK2Pro2. Although i haven't been using the cams yet, the titanium retainer is holding up pretty well with rev around 8200rpm and its my daily last time. Basically, when choosing the springs, be practical on the RPM and the camshaft selection. Select whats in the range of the cam lift. With stiffer spring, its kinda hard on the timing belt so you might want to opt for a stronger belt or non-china made timing belt.

Hope that helps you. Ps. skunk2 stage 1, just use the OEM type R, its enough to clear.

Oh yeah, valve spring don't eat the cam. The stiff valve spring wears out the retainer, if the springs are TOO stiff and revving crazily. Remember, race engines are rebuilt frequently, so think about it. That goes for every part of the engine, not only the retainer.

 

[alex27]

thx for d info. how long have u ben using the supertech retainer? mileage?
i opt for the stage cos its slightly higher than CTR cams, 11.9m intake n 11.0 exhaust. so i doubt ill be able to use type r valvetrain. What cams are u running DIV?

 

[super fei lo]

y dont u sell it of...
then get a set of omni power VS and retainers...
or maybe Brian Crower......
i think it wont cost u must...
try ur luck on used ones since ur cam's lift is not really high...

sell it of.....
get the cash

 

[alex27]

hehe i'll try. do u recommend putting the supertech Vs with my stage 1 fei lo?
maybe i just order down one tuner series Vs or Blox Vs. i prefer using stock retainer as aftermarket will get worn quickly

 

[super fei lo]

retainers worn quickly....???
im not sure about it....
all of my mechs customer all using after market VS n retainers..
so far so gd....

ur cam's lift is not really high...
try type r VS instead....
budget budget budget....
i think supertech VS is more than u need....
and u dont really need it with ur currect setup....

its like a T88 turbine in a 4 cylinder little banger....
waste da shit

just my opinion...
my style of moddin is budget budget budget is the same time dont compromise durability....

Bump: currently im using BC cams, spec is same like Jun 3....
omni power VS and retainer....
B18b....
the retainer seems fine to me.....

even my fren crower 305,i think lift ard 12.8....
crower VS and retainer...
2 years of usage...
no prob for the retainers....

A/M retainers wont last...im not sure about it mate....

 

[D-IV]

Ti retainers more durable than stock retainers? That is a wrong impression there. The trick to it is to match your spring pressure with your cam requirements. Don't go overboard with it if your cams don't require those spring pressure.

Entirely up to you.

 

[alex27]

I have read in usa forums aftermarket titanium retainer will wear down over a certain mileage. Correct me if i'm wrong. Why did b.crower produce steel retainer? Thx for clarifying fei lo. Well understood hehe

Bump: I have read in usa forums aftermarket titanium retainer will wear down over a certain mileage. Correct me if i'm wrong. Why did b.crower produce steel retainer? Thx for clarifying fei lo. Well understood hehe

 

[D-IV]

why don't you use aftermarket steel retainers then. Just for a peace of mind.

If you read through the web, people use hard core springs being afraid of p2v hitting due to valve float. So choosing hard springs is theoretically the right move, but thinking about the spring pressure with the cam lift sometimes is ignored which is what you are doing at the moment.

SFL's point is clear enough to answer your question and i have to agree with him. S2S1 is not far off from the CTR's. I wouldn't use anything any aftermarket valve springs with stock retainers apart from the Type R the most. Even if you read in most threads on the internet, some are using the Ti retainers longer than me and even after taking out the valve train for inspection, its still ok. But they rev decently, not 9000rpm shifts or 10000rpm shifts every time.

 

[super fei lo]

hahaha..
clear filed....
the last decision is up to u mate...