Rm8k Wira & Jazz GK5 ownership experience-A long way to go

[brokenjars]

The join part at the pillars need welding. right? Scare that part will rust also.....

I am not sure how he will do it. If welding is done properly, sand off and painted..shouldnt rust back as long as the metals dont have any rust right?
U tried to save your wira roof?

 

[parakey]

I am not sure how he will do it. If welding is done properly, sand off and painted..shouldnt rust back as long as the metals dont have any rust right?
U tried to save your wira roof?

Wira roof easy to safe. Just pay money. Roughly 1.2K to replace with new roof. Does not include painting. Main question is whether it's worth doing so?

 

[gunnerzz]

Wira roof easy to safe. Just pay money. Roughly 1.2K to replace with new roof. Does not include painting. Main question is whether it's worth doing so?

Nope...thats why we see wira with either bubbles on the roof or sticker to cover the holes.
Its a simple A to B car but the cost to replace the roof is too much for such car.

Last time my mum wira got its roof panel replaced. No paint, we just apply a layer of rubber paint black in colour to it.

 

[parakey]

thats why we see wira with either bubbles on the roof or sticker to cover the holes..

Trouble with wrap or stickers, is that if the underlying roof panel is continuing to rust underneath, the rust will soon breakout from underneath the wrap, damaging it

I feel perhaps they should consider fixing the rust first before using wrap

 

[parakey]

here's another unfortunate vehicle which I came across today

 

[brokenjars]

Nope...thats why we see wira with either bubbles on the roof or sticker to cover the holes.
Its a simple A to B car but the cost to replace the roof is too much for such car.

Last time my mum wira got its roof panel replaced. No paint, we just apply a layer of rubber paint black in colour to it.

How much did the roof panel replacement costs? Once replaced, no more problems right?

 

[brokenjars]

Trouble with wrap or stickers, is that if the underlying roof panel is continuing to rust underneath, the rust will soon breakout from underneath the wrap, damaging it

I feel perhaps they should consider fixing the rust first before using wrap

The problem is the whole roof is usually infected with rust. Repairing one area wont guarantee other area wont start rusting soon

 

[vr2turbo]

I am not sure how he will do it. If welding is done properly, sand off and painted..shouldnt rust back as long as the metals dont have any rust right?
U tried to save your wira roof?

You can paint the exterior, but if the joint is at the pillar the interior cannot paint, and rust can come from there.

I did try to save the roof. When I saw small bubbles came out, I had them rectified. My spray painter grind it down to bare metal from the top, paint anti rust, putty, primer and paint. For the interior he remove the roof cloth and scrap out the gum, grind out to bare metal. paint anti rust paint, gum back with different gum, and paint and hook up back the roof cloth lining. It worked for 6 months or so only, then the small bubbles were back. I Intended to keep but since the bubbles came back, sold off.......lol

 

[parakey]

How much did the roof panel replacement costs? Once replaced, no more problems right?

I was recently quoted 1.2K

How much did the roof panel replacement costs? Once replaced, no more problems right?

The last time I had mine replaced was more than a decade ago. So far havent seen any rust

But check the work before they paint. Make sure they didnt give you a used roof from another car. Those require putty work and this will likely result in new paint cracking soon

 

[brokenjars]

I was recently quoted 1.2K

The last time I had mine replaced was more than a decade ago. So far havent seen any rust

But check the work before they paint. Make sure they didnt give you a used roof from another car. Those require putty work and this will likely result in new paint cracking soon

U got a new roof? I thought all roof comes from a donor car, hence it is usually a used roof?

 

[parakey]

U got a new roof? I thought all roof comes from a donor car, hence it is usually a used roof?

Not sure about Sentras but you can get a new roof for wiras

https://www.lelong.com.my/proton-wi...f-panel-bestauto-I1087087D-2007-01-Sale-I.htm

The roof by itself isnt expensive but you also need to factor in the labor. Bear in mind rear/front windshields needs to be removed/reinstalled for this

 

[gunnerzz]

How much did the roof panel replacement costs? Once replaced, no more problems right?

Dunno...car is sold. There was no rust when it was sold.

 

[gunnerzz]

You can paint the exterior, but if the joint is at the pillar the interior cannot paint, and rust can come from there.

I did try to save the roof. When I saw small bubbles came out, I had them rectified. My spray painter grind it down to bare metal from the top, paint anti rust, putty, primer and paint. For the interior he remove the roof cloth and scrap out the gum, grind out to bare metal. paint anti rust paint, gum back with different gum, and paint and hook up back the roof cloth lining. It worked for 6 months or so only, then the small bubbles were back. I Intended to keep but since the bubbles came back, sold off.......lol

Not sure how other cars are done but on my mum wira, only the roof panel is replaced. Basically its just a piece of sheet metal thus no cutting and rewelding of the pillar.

 

[lsm1991]

Not sure how other cars are done but on my mum wira, only the roof panel is replaced. Basically its just a piece of sheet metal thus no cutting and rewelding of the pillar.

depends on which area was cut up. sometimes its cut by the c pillar, that one, xtaulah lazy ke ape, they dont tend to strip everything and paint from the inside

 

[vr2turbo]

Not sure how other cars are done but on my mum wira, only the roof panel is replaced. Basically its just a piece of sheet metal thus no cutting and rewelding of the pillar.

Ah! yours change the top layer only, many they chop and change the whole roof......

 

[KHNG940413]

Any sifu know Wira 1.5 can fit evo 3 brake pump?
The brake for wira is really soft

 

[vr2turbo]

You referring to Brake servo, right? Should be double layer, just check whether there is space to go in, but be careful, as without ABS when brakes become too strong it might lock easily.....

 

[KHNG940413]

You referring to Brake servo, right? Should be double layer, just check whether there is space to go in, but be careful, as without ABS when brakes become too strong it might lock easily.....

Sorry to sound stupid. I tot wira doesn't come with abs in 2001.
Ok,noted I will check out for those thing. The braking is really rubbish. Even going 70kmh and you hit the brake but the car feels doesn't want to stop.

 

[parakey]

Sorry to sound stupid. I tot wira doesn't come with abs in 2001.
Ok,noted I will check out for those thing. The braking is really rubbish. Even going 70kmh and you hit the brake but the car feels doesn't want to stop.

Year 96. ABS goes here. To be fair, very few Wiras had ABS back then

 

[vr2turbo]

Sorry to sound stupid. I tot wira doesn't come with abs in 2001.
Ok,noted I will check out for those thing. The braking is really rubbish. Even going 70kmh and you hit the brake but the car feels doesn't want to stop.

Maybe you can try upgrading the pads first. Try Trestor Advantage pads, they are back in the market.....