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<blockquote data-quote="niceputera" data-source="post: 879103" data-attributes="member: 12825"><p>Crash,</p><p></p><p>Thanks for trying to answer, apprraciate it. More questions of course.</p><p></p><p>The scenario : '93 power at engine is rated 138.5bhp std. Dynoed at DMT got 100WHP. Dynoed at Links got almost the same figure. Third gear of course. ( The same car had been dynoed at Speedworks and N1 as well but showed a bit higher figure - but undestandable because of their type of dyno with N1 giving out almost 8% higher and Speedworks about 5% higher.)</p><p></p><p>Now let we try to calculate the power at the engine. </p><p></p><p>-New Power at engine = Std power at engine / power at wheels x New power at wheels.</p><p>-New Power at engine = 138.5 / 100WHP x 100WHP</p><p>= 138.5.BHP</p><p></p><p>Now the Questions:</p><p></p><p>a) Is the formula used correct?</p><p>b) If it is correct, it shows the power loss through the drive train plus the beltings for aircond/powersteering/waterpump ect is 27.8%. </p><p>c) Is it true that regardless of 3rd or 4th gear used, if we took the above mentioned formula to calculate the power, it will give a consistant, repeatable and acceptable result?</p><p>d) From my observations, Proton Motorsports tends to give a much lower power loss % thus giving at the engine power a very low figure. What formula it uses? </p><p>e) Top tuners around the world ( I'm talking US, UK and Aus) tend to use 3rd gear to dyno cars (na and force induction), I observe that my method/formula of calculating WHP and EHP is similar to them. That is not the case with R3.</p><p>f) From my observations again, the honda cars will tend to show a higher WHP compare to Mitsubishi car ( on the same dyno calculated using above formula). Is it safe to assume that Honda has a lower drive train power loss compare to Mitsu? </p><p></p><p>Anyones that has a good answer to my questions is welcome to give their opinions. Thanks in advance.</p><p></p><p>Cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="niceputera, post: 879103, member: 12825"] Crash, Thanks for trying to answer, apprraciate it. More questions of course. The scenario : '93 power at engine is rated 138.5bhp std. Dynoed at DMT got 100WHP. Dynoed at Links got almost the same figure. Third gear of course. ( The same car had been dynoed at Speedworks and N1 as well but showed a bit higher figure - but undestandable because of their type of dyno with N1 giving out almost 8% higher and Speedworks about 5% higher.) Now let we try to calculate the power at the engine. -New Power at engine = Std power at engine / power at wheels x New power at wheels. -New Power at engine = 138.5 / 100WHP x 100WHP = 138.5.BHP Now the Questions: a) Is the formula used correct? b) If it is correct, it shows the power loss through the drive train plus the beltings for aircond/powersteering/waterpump ect is 27.8%. c) Is it true that regardless of 3rd or 4th gear used, if we took the above mentioned formula to calculate the power, it will give a consistant, repeatable and acceptable result? d) From my observations, Proton Motorsports tends to give a much lower power loss % thus giving at the engine power a very low figure. What formula it uses? e) Top tuners around the world ( I'm talking US, UK and Aus) tend to use 3rd gear to dyno cars (na and force induction), I observe that my method/formula of calculating WHP and EHP is similar to them. That is not the case with R3. f) From my observations again, the honda cars will tend to show a higher WHP compare to Mitsubishi car ( on the same dyno calculated using above formula). Is it safe to assume that Honda has a lower drive train power loss compare to Mitsu? Anyones that has a good answer to my questions is welcome to give their opinions. Thanks in advance. Cheers. [/QUOTE]
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