Pro and Cons Of Auto & Manual Cars - Open Discussion

[amrancharger]

yes, auto cars do haf a slow reaction in term of response.
so the key here is to know how to control the reaction with the throttle pedal.

last weekend i test drive the new proton preve cfe (the turbo version).
the initial step on the pedal can feel it is quite slow, harder to move.
heard proton do that to ensure their car pass the emission test for europe market. :hmmmm:

i even tried doin the 0-100 test using my phone stopwatch.around 11.9sec.cause the initial movement was very slow.
but the 7 speed gearbox was quite interesting.
when on auto, the transmission changing gear was not noticeable at all.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

yes, auto cars do haf a slow reaction in term of response.
so the key here is to know how to control the reaction with the throttle pedal.

last weekend i test drive the new proton preve cfe (the turbo version).
the initial step on the pedal can feel it is quite slow, harder to move.
heard proton do that to ensure their car pass the emission test for europe market. :hmmmm:

i even tried doin the 0-100 test using my phone stopwatch.around 11.9sec.cause the initial movement was very slow.
but the 7 speed gearbox was quite interesting.
when on auto, the transmission changing gear was not noticeable at all.

Gear change not noticeable could be because its a CVT gearbox (Continuosly Variable Transmission)

Recently Merz had 5 speed auto, then Honda Accord had 6 speed, now Preve got 7 speed?

Wow! very soon we may have 10 speed !?

 

[Izso]

yes, auto cars do haf a slow reaction in term of response.
so the key here is to know how to control the reaction with the throttle pedal.

last weekend i test drive the new proton preve cfe (the turbo version).
the initial step on the pedal can feel it is quite slow, harder to move.
heard proton do that to ensure their car pass the emission test for europe market. :hmmmm:

i even tried doin the 0-100 test using my phone stopwatch.around 11.9sec.cause the initial movement was very slow.
but the 7 speed gearbox was quite interesting.
when on auto, the transmission changing gear was not noticeable at all.

My understanding of the new Preve is you need to rev the guts out of the car to get any decent performance. If you launched at a higher rpm to get the torque to come in earlier would it have affected 0-100 times?

Aiya, CVT isn't a strong gearbox system. I wouldn't recommend thrashing a CVT gearbox mainly because of a belt inside the GB itself. Any belt driven system isn't going to be very durable in terms of hard thrashing. Only good thing about CVT imho is the seamless transmission changes and the excellent fuel economy.

Torque convertors are the way to go! But unfortunately too much power robbed by the whole thing. But if not mistaken modern torque convertors (or those based on the same tech) are much more efficient.

 

[vr2turbo]

My understanding of the new Preve is you need to rev the guts out of the car to get any decent performance. If you launched at a higher rpm to get the torque to come in earlier would it have affected 0-100 times?

Aiya, CVT isn't a strong gearbox system. I wouldn't recommend thrashing a CVT gearbox mainly because of a belt inside the GB itself. Any belt driven system isn't going to be very durable in terms of hard thrashing. Only good thing about CVT imho is the seamless transmission changes and the excellent fuel economy.

Torque convertors are the way to go! But unfortunately too much power robbed by the whole thing. But if not mistaken modern torque convertors (or those based on the same tech) are much more efficient.

Have not driven one, but I thought they have same turbo engine of the Exora, and since smaller thought they were more powerful....:hmmmm:

 

[amrancharger]

My understanding of the new Preve is you need to rev the guts out of the car to get any decent performance. If you launched at a higher rpm to get the torque to come in earlier would it have affected 0-100 times?

Aiya, CVT isn't a strong gearbox system. I wouldn't recommend thrashing a CVT gearbox mainly because of a belt inside the GB itself. Any belt driven system isn't going to be very durable in terms of hard thrashing. Only good thing about CVT imho is the seamless transmission changes and the excellent fuel economy.

Torque convertors are the way to go! But unfortunately too much power robbed by the whole thing. But if not mistaken modern torque convertors (or those based on the same tech) are much more efficient.

haf to agree not to thrash a cvt gearbox.
but i also feel need to launch at a higher rpm to get a good momentum for the 0-100 timing.
just trying it out to see if it lives up to wat proton claims.less than 9sec if i m not wrong.
myb i was too soft on the pedal...

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X - The Battle - Best MOTORing (Japanese) - YouTube

Dual Clutch is still no match for good old manual on the track....

 

[csl]

To compensate the different between auto and manual (except dual clutch system)

 

[6UE5t]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X - The Battle - Best MOTORing (Japanese) - YouTube

Dual Clutch is still no match for good old manual on the track....

And Evo IX still rules btw!