Overstrecthed tyres, pros & con ?

[YYC]

Everything in this world has its originally innocent beginning just like CD was once a recording medium for my favorite Canton hits but is now associated with someone's [strike]penis[/strike] name in our country's gutter politics.

So I would like to think that stretched tyre has the same innocent originality and beginning. Some boy, who just had enough money for a wider rim but not enough for a wider tyre, decided to fit in first and stretched his stock tyre on his newly purchased rims on his ride. Someone who was always zealous to make his car look unique but lack of new idea stumbled upon this particular poor guy's stretched rubber and found the design was absolutely out of this world and ahead of its time, so he took the inspiration and later showed it off to his bunch of common freaks. There the wild fire started to spread.

I like stretch tyre too, but I cannot think of its functionality except its look which my mother called it VERY ugly.

 

[6UE5t]

Everything in this world has its originally innocent beginning just like CD was once a recording medium for my favorite Canton hits but is now associated with someone's [strike]penis[/strike] name in our country's gutter politics.

So I would like to think that stretched tyre has the same innocent originality and beginning. Some boy, who just had enough money for a wider rim but not enough for a wider tyre, decided to fit in first and stretched his stock tyre on his newly purchased rims on his ride. Someone who was always zealous to make his car look unique but lack of new idea stumbled upon this particular poor guy's stretched rubber and found the design was absolutely out of this world and ahead of its time, so he took the inspiration and later showed it off to his bunch of common freaks. There the wild fire started to spread.

I like stretch tyre too, but I cannot think of its functionality except its look which my mother called it VERY ugly.

Could not agree more with your mom!

 

[ixeo]

There are more cons than pros in overstretched tyres...
Zero practicality but alot of ppl do it for the look.

Their car, their fancy, of course.

True, I agree fully. So don't drive it on public roads cause its not their father's road. Its not funny having these fuckers on the road, blowing a tyre at 80km while casuing catastrophic consequences. They can go bang trees, but other road users are innocent.

 

[twistedichc]

well than, as most sifuses r against them, I wanna know is there anything that I do to make my tyres look stretched. Rota rims maybe??

 

[YYC]

165/55/14 will fit nicely into 4.5x14 rim and right up to max stretching 6x14 rim. Everything still within safety limit. You will risk ripping off the tyre on rim wider than these.

 

[TitanRev]

I'm very interested to see those stretch tires get brought down to the track and do a few fast laps...what will happen tire explode or comes off the rims?

 

[kUmUcHaI 11/1]

Don't do it.
Not practical.
" if Something happened to your tyres, you won't cry...but if it happened to your rim....you will cry blood "

Won't let anything bad happen to my RS 18x9 + 29...

 

[vr2turbo]

To make it easy, just go to this website and put in the tire size and you'll get what would be your possible width for rims.
Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing

Bro. 6UE5t, I use 1010 tyre calculator too, but the problem is 165/55R14 don't exist there...

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ok let me rephrase my question coz still a bit low on knowledge bout rims, right now standard kelisa rim runs on 165/55R14 & dunno the exact width of rim so calculated & change the 165 to 6.5", wanna do everstreched tyres using GY NCT5 165/60/R14 & fit onto a R14 rims that fits a 175 profile tyre, so rite now need to learn bout rims & get the correct size of the rim that i wanna use. now i know my question is way way of target. so anyone any thread @ links bout rims & how it is being calculated??

Got you this time.....:top:
I am not sure what the 175 tyre rim width is so is difficult to assume but should be okay as 165 and 175 do not differ much.
Just a simple calculation since the 1010 calculator do not have your tyre size.
165 is 165mm convert to inch is roughly 6.5", therefore 5" to 6.5" rims can fit them, anything more they start to stretch. Slight stretch is still acceptable but not too much....

 

[YYC]

Bro. 6UE5t, I use 1010 tyre calculator too, but the problem is 165/55R14 don't exist there...

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Got you this time.....:top:
I am not sure what the 175 tyre rim width is so is difficult to assume but should be okay as 165 and 175 do not differ much.
Just a simple calculation since the 1010 calculator do not have your tyre size.
165 is 165mm convert to inch is roughly 6.5", therefore 5" to 6.5" rims can fit them, anything more they start to stretch. Slight stretch is still acceptable but not too much....

Bro, the section width measurement 165 shouldn't be taken as direct rim width figure. As mentioned in Performance Tire and Wheel Relationship by Yokohama, "for 50-series tires and higher, the measuring rim width is 70% of the tire's section width rounded off to the nearest 0.5inch while For tires that have an aspect ratio lower than a 50-series, the measuring rim is 85% of the tire's section design width".

Therefore, tyre with 165 section width should ideally mount on 4.5" up to 6.0" wide rim:
-- 165mm=6.5inch
-- 70% of 6.5inch = 4.5inch

The same formula is re-quoted by Car Bibles in its An ideal rim-width calculator.

 

[vr2turbo]

Bro, the section width measurement 165 shouldn't be taken as direct rim width figure. As mentioned in Performance Tire and Wheel Relationship by Yokohama, "for 50-series tires and higher, the measuring rim width is 70% of the tire's section width rounded off to the nearest 0.5inch while For tires that have an aspect ratio lower than a 50-series, the measuring rim is 85% of the tire's section design width".

Therefore, tyre with 165 section width should ideally mount on 4.5" up to 6.0" wide rim:
-- 165mm=6.5inch
-- 70% of 6.5inch = 4.5inch

The same formula is re-quoted by Car Bibles in its An ideal rim-width calculator.

Yes brother, but bro. twistedichc wants to stretch his tyres, so is rough estimate for him.
He does not want exact rim size....

 

[6UE5t]

well than, as most sifuses r against them, I wanna know is there anything that I do to make my tyres look stretched. Rota rims maybe??

Nope, either do proper fitments or stretched, cannot be both. And I suggest do the right thing and throw that stretched thingy way2 far away from your mind!

Bro, the section width measurement 165 shouldn't be taken as direct rim width figure. As mentioned in Performance Tire and Wheel Relationship by Yokohama, "for 50-series tires and higher, the measuring rim width is 70% of the tire's section width rounded off to the nearest 0.5inch while For tires that have an aspect ratio lower than a 50-series, the measuring rim is 85% of the tire's section design width".

Therefore, tyre with 165 section width should ideally mount on 4.5" up to 6.0" wide rim:
-- 165mm=6.5inch
-- 70% of 6.5inch = 4.5inch

The same formula is re-quoted by Car Bibles in its An ideal rim-width calculator.

Usually I'd match tires & rims with 2-3cm margin from the tire width to accommodate for the rims thickness and to still have protection of the rims' lip by the tire.

 

[twistedichc]

k than as all r against them, i'll follow coz not riding the car alone. now, I really want 2 make my tire look fat, but been told there is not much r14 that can fit 175 profile for my kelisa @ is it that I,ve got the wrong info so that i'd go for 175/50R15. it's coz just change all 4 new tyres, when change got 2 see that 2 out 4 rims a bit dented, as for that time no more budget left for rims. if 2 change wit r15 got to crank more money worr, if to change rims only it would be a waste if I were 2 change it again later, 2nd hand rims dunno wether it was dented & been refurbish @ originally ok. if can fit kancil than I wont have any prob later.

 

[vr2turbo]

k than as all r against them, i'll follow coz not riding the car alone. now, I really want 2 make my tire look fat, but been told there is not much r14 that can fit 175 profile for my kelisa @ is it that I,ve got the wrong info so that i'd go for 175/50R15. it's coz just change all 4 new tyres, when change got 2 see that 2 out 4 rims a bit dented, as for that time no more budget left for rims. if 2 change wit r15 got to crank more money worr, if to change rims only it would be a waste if I were 2 change it again later, 2nd hand rims dunno wether it was dented & been refurbish @ originally ok. if can fit kancil than I wont have any prob later.

Not too sure of Kelisa wheel arch space, but for Kenari 175/50R15 the rears will scrub the wheel arch fender on heavy load. 15" usually comes in 7J try to look for 6.5J and offset 40. Offset 38 more likely to scrub fender as it comes out more. If don't want to scrub fender with 15" rims have to go 165/50R15. Tyres will automatic be stretched.....

 

[twistedichc]

Not too sure of Kelisa wheel arch space, but for Kenari 175/50R15 the rears will scrub the wheel arch fender on heavy load. 15" usually comes in 7J try to look for 6.5J and offset 40. Offset 38 more likely to scrub fender as it comes out more. If don't want to scrub fender with 15" rims have to go 165/50R15. Tyres will automatic be stretched.....

thanx for the info bro, think if see any that 2 my liking, i'd take a pic & post it here & see what u & the others think of it, as for the moment gonna save a bit & hold out bit longer coz the car right now is just weekend ride so wouldn't be to much a burden to the rims condition. thanx a lot guys, never been so "in" wit cars b4 join here. thanx again.

 

[vr2turbo]

thanx for the info bro, think if see any that 2 my liking, i'd take a pic & post it here & see what u & the others think of it, as for the moment gonna save a bit & hold out bit longer coz the car right now is just weekend ride so wouldn't be to much a burden to the rims condition. thanx a lot guys, never been so "in" wit cars b4 join here. thanx again.

In Here can easily get poisoned......

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Not too sure of Kelisa wheel arch space, but for Kenari 175/50R15 the rears will scrub the wheel arch fender on heavy load. 15" usually comes in 7J try to look for 6.5J and offset 40. Offset 38 more likely to scrub fender as it comes out more. If don't want to scrub fender with 15" rims have to go 165/50R15. Tyres will automatic be stretched.....

But u said stretched tyres not good wor bro

165/50/15 will stretch the tyres? I prefer to have more grip on the road than just looks and uneven wear on the tyres.

 

[vr2turbo]

But u said stretched tyres not good wor bro

165/50/15 will stretch the tyres? I prefer to have more grip on the road than just looks and uneven wear on the tyres.

165 use on 4.5 to 5" only. If use 15" rims is 6.5 to 7" wide, therefore already stretched mah!
175 then less stretch, but tyre is higher and wider and therefore sure to scrub fender...

 

[zul_klasik]

ermm
look intresting thread
im sorry to share my thought here (not using kelisa, im using myvi 2012)

moments :
Aug 2012 - Aug 2013 = stock oem myvi rims and tyre
Aug 2013- Oct 2013 (trade in) = rim 16",8.25jj,(forgot offset),tyre 205/45/16 (not much fitment and flush)
Oct 2013 (only 1 day use, then trade in again) = rim 15",8.jj F and 9jj R (forgot offset), tyre 175/50/15 (toooo low but a lof of wheel gap)
Oct 2013 till current = rim 17,8.5jj F and 10jj R (et 15/20), tyre 205/40/17 (nice setting)

pro = nice style..attraction..lorry or treller drive fast next to you, ur car not "membuang" with their wind momentum
con = need to check tyre pressure every 2 weeks, avoid pothole


stance and fitment philosophy = haters always hate our scene..huhuh

 

[6UE5t]

ermm
look intresting thread
im sorry to share my thought here (not using kelisa, im using myvi 2012)

moments :
Aug 2012 - Aug 2013 = stock oem myvi rims and tyre
Sept 2013- Oct 2013 (tade in) = rim 16",8.25jj,(forgot offset),tyre 205/45/16
Oct 2013 (only 1 day use, then trade in back) = rim 15",8.jj F and 9jj R (forgot offset), tyre 175/50/15
Oct 2013 till current = rim 17,8.5jj F and 10jj R (et 15/20), tyre 205/40/17

pro = nice style..attraction..lorry or treller drive fast next to you, ur car not "membuang" with their wind momentum
con = need to check tyre pressure every 2 weeks, avoid pothole


stance and fitment philosophy = haters always hate our scene..huhuh

Nice style and attraction, that's very subjective. People can also be attracted to look at something really bad/ugly, right?
Car not "membuang", that can be achieved without doing stretched tires, so stretched tires is not the reason why the car is not "membuang".

 

[zul_klasik]

yaaa..
just my thought and sharing..
ugly??wierd??
ermm, everybody has their own perpectives
i respect ur comment and thought
chill bro