Need to buy LSD 1.5/2 way or Close Ratio

[hattech-v]

the gear driven type is similar to oem type r hellical lsd rite?

 

[chris2000]

the gear driven type is similar to oem type r hellical lsd rite?

Yup, very similar but aftermarket ones normally design for better performance with less slip then OEM

 

[basahboy]

Type R LSD is hellical but if can save more buy the quaife versions...

OTH, since the close ratios are excellent for track racing..would it be more advisable to me to buy the close ratio 345 while keeping the 4.4FD instead of chaging either the whole gearbox to Type r or change the FD to 4.9...what do you think?...FYI, I have no idea how much a Close ratio 345 cost...hmmmm

 

[basahboy]

I tried ATS close gear ratio + Spoon FD 4.6 something and even then cruising at 5000rpm only about 110km/h. So for street use i think mad man.. Fuel consumption is going to suffer as well as top speed.

LSD many types. Most common Japanese brands runs on metal clutch plate type and some british brand like Quaife are gear driven type. The latest innovation used by company like ATS runs on carbon clutch plate type.

Chris...you say you have tried..so sold the ATS already???

OTH, do you know the prize range of the LSDs you mention above...or for that matter Kaaz/Cusco

 

[zero4]

Type R LSD is hellical but if can save more buy the quaife versions...

OTH, since the close ratios are excellent for track racing..would it be more advisable to me to buy the close ratio 345 while keeping the 4.4FD instead of chaging either the whole gearbox to Type r or change the FD to 4.9...what do you think?...FYI, I have no idea how much a Close ratio 345 cost...hmmmm

yeap, for track, get 3,4,5 and keep ur 4.4 FD. new 3,4,5 will usually cost around 2.3k to 2.5k lohhh, used one less loh, less than 1.8k gua

 

[basahboy]

yeap, for track, get 3,4,5 and keep ur 4.4 FD. new 3,4,5 will usually cost around 2.3k to 2.5k lohhh, used one less loh, less than 1.8k gua

if anyone has one...letme know ya...i am very much interested...

btw, here is an info and comparison chart between 4.4, 4.9, 4.4 plus close 345, 4.9 plus close 345...

 

[hattech-v]

basahboy, good info.. hehe

 

[KAY 3333]

where got so easy blow engine one?

very easy leh cause i'm using b20b block and my block already
LONGGAR.very surprise when open saw the block and the piston

 

[KAY 3333]

if anyone has one...letme know ya...i am very much interested...

btw, here is an info and comparison chart between 4.4, 4.9, 4.4 plus close 345, 4.9 plus close 345...

great info man :)

 

[chris2000]

Chris...you say you have tried..so sold the ATS already???

OTH, do you know the prize range of the LSDs you mention above...or for that matter Kaaz/Cusco

I'm still using the ATS gears. I did once use it with Spoon FD 4.6 but now using 4.4 FD with ATS gears.

I know Kaaz LSD used to sell for about RM3300 to RM3500, Spoon used to sell for RM3000 to RM3300. Don't know what is the current price now. ATS LSD will be about RM4300 to RM4600, Quafie about RM4000 to RM4500.

 

[chris2000]

yeap, for track, get 3,4,5 and keep ur 4.4 FD. new 3,4,5 will usually cost around 2.3k to 2.5k lohhh, used one less loh, less than 1.8k gua

It is actually quite amazing how local tuning company can get Kaaz 3,4,5 gear and sell for RM2.5k new. If you go search the net, you will find that most Japanese gear kit brands will all sell in the region of RM4k to 5k.

If you go to Spoon website you will see complete gear kit (1-5) will cost over RM8,000 and 3-5 gear about RM6,000. So it always make me wonder how the hell the local companies can bring Kaaz or other Japanese brand gear kits at almost half price below RM3k.

The only gear kits that I found that is below RM3k is from Taiwan made, and these guys can make or copy whatever gear ratio you want whether it is Spoon, OS, ATS....

 

[hattech-v]

It is actually quite amazing how local tuning company can get Kaaz 3,4,5 gear and sell for RM2.5k new. If you go search the net, you will find that most Japanese gear kit brands will all sell in the region of RM4k to 5k.

If you go to Spoon website you will see complete gear kit (1-5) will cost over RM8,000 and 3-5 gear about RM6,000. So it always make me wonder how the hell the local companies can bring Kaaz or other Japanese brand gear kits at almost half price below RM3k.

The only gear kits that I found that is below RM3k is from Taiwan made, and these guys can make or copy whatever gear ratio you want whether it is Spoon, OS, ATS....

with that price. imitation is possible. now anything can be imitated.. haha

 

[zero4]

It is actually quite amazing how local tuning company can get Kaaz 3,4,5 gear and sell for RM2.5k new. If you go search the net, you will find that most Japanese gear kit brands will all sell in the region of RM4k to 5k.

If you go to Spoon website you will see complete gear kit (1-5) will cost over RM8,000 and 3-5 gear about RM6,000. So it always make me wonder how the hell the local companies can bring Kaaz or other Japanese brand gear kits at almost half price below RM3k.

The only gear kits that I found that is below RM3k is from Taiwan made, and these guys can make or copy whatever gear ratio you want whether it is Spoon, OS, ATS....

is simple, all goods pricing is match and determine according to the cost of living in that contigent or country or whatsoever. you cant compare other county pricing for goods, in this case, car parts, everywhere is different. so, you cant really compare japan pricing with malaysia, is two totally different market and environment. and btw, the kaaz ATS gearing i bought for 2.5k is originial, taiwan made ATS gearings are selling for less than 1.5k here fyi.

 

[chris2000]

is simple, all goods pricing is match and determine according to the cost of living in that contigent or country or whatsoever. you cant compare other county pricing for goods, in this case, car parts, everywhere is different. so, you cant really compare japan pricing with malaysia, is two totally different market and environment. and btw, the kaaz ATS gearing i bought for 2.5k is originial, taiwan made ATS gearings are selling for less than 1.5k here fyi.

Ya, I know many companies in Malaysia do market their product by lowering prices like 5-10% below the Japan/Australia/USA/etc to keep their product affordable and competitive. But for example in this case we talking about gear kits, it is atleast half the price of the retail in Japan. So, if you add in the shipping freight fee, custom clearing fee and all other miscellaneous charges, these gearkits are probably only 1/3 the retail price or less!! So thats why I'm just pretty amazed only. It just make me wonder how the hell they did it!! If it is a high volume products and local company order in the sets of hundreds or thousand, then I would assume they could have probably bargain super high quantity low prices. But these are like maybe a set or two a month item only.

The other thing is can anyone tell me or lead me to any websites that shows tha Kaaz make gear kits for other comapnies?? Just curios and for my own research only. Cause I always hear people telling me "Kaaz made but Spoon ratio" or "Kaaz made but ATS ratio" and so forth. Then when I check the Kaaz website to find more details of their gear kit, I found nothing on Honda but only Subarus... So I can not find any info at all on the KAAZ gear ratios for HONDA.. Or is there something that everyone know about KAAZ and that I can't find the web.

Thanks for all your guys help in clearing my confusion...

 

[zero4]

Ya, I know many companies in Malaysia do market their product by lowering prices like 5-10% below the Japan/Australia/USA/etc to keep their product affordable and competitive. But for example in this case we talking about gear kits, it is atleast half the price of the retail in Japan. So, if you add in the shipping freight fee, custom clearing fee and all other miscellaneous charges, these gearkits are probably only 1/3 the retail price or less!! So thats why I'm just pretty amazed only. It just make me wonder how the hell they did it!! If it is a high volume products and local company order in the sets of hundreds or thousand, then I would assume they could have probably bargain super high quantity low prices. But these are like maybe a set or two a month item only.

The other thing is can anyone tell me or lead me to any websites that shows tha Kaaz make gear kits for other comapnies?? Just curios and for my own research only. Cause I always hear people telling me "Kaaz made but Spoon ratio" or "Kaaz made but ATS ratio" and so forth. Then when I check the Kaaz website to find more details of their gear kit, I found nothing on Honda but only Subarus... So I can not find any info at all on the KAAZ gear ratios for HONDA.. Or is there something that everyone know about KAAZ and that I can't find the web.

Thanks for all your guys help in clearing my confusion...

ahhahahahaha, honestly, i'm as confused as you. cant find info on kaaz produced ratios in their site also, is like, they produce gearings for popular ratios???

again, i'm in your shoes, i dont know how they do it too, the pricing thingy, maybe i need to ask jacky someday when i see him, i will let u know too.