Need Help For tyre selection KU36/Achilles 123S

will3830

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Dear all sepang sifu,

Need your help on below, try find in the net but not much comparison,

Tyre : Kumho KU36 / Achilles 123 S
Size : 235/45/17
Purpose : Track day & Time Attack ( Sepang )

Tread wear is different, but anyone have experianced the different between these 2? Or anyone use 123S before?

**Looking for tyre that can use street and track
**Abit low on budget

Many thanks.
 
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i know alot of guys say ku36 perform quite good.. but no idea on achilles 123s.. but currently i'm using achilles atr sport 235-45-17..
 

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why not go for R888 straight since its not gonna be used for the streets?
 

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damn expensive bro.. if its a competition, yes it worth.. if its just for fun on track day, pick other cheaper brand..
 

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sorry bro, my bad, i dint state why i only choose these 2 tyre, cuz Kumho i got friend can help me get it at RM2000 for 4 pc, achilles RM1600++ for 4 pc, am abit low on budget hence would like to get some advice.

I did drive my car some time on the street hence R888 was not suitable and very expensive for me.
 

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Achilles 123 overheats very fast. In Dato Sago track about 4 laps and the tyre doesn't grip as nice anymore. Cold and first 3 laps it was great. After 4 laps got under and oversteer characteristics. Can see the tyre peeling off also.
 

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4gbanger, RSR i think around 700++ per pc :-(.. i really love to have it if i can affort.

Izso, many thanks for your info..May i know wat is the tyre pressure u running before warm up?

BTW, anyone interested to join coming track day at 17/10/2013 ( 10am - 2 pm ) RM550 i think, according to my friend there still slot left.
 

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since itll be also used for streets...id recommend the KU36

EDIT: by the way... can pls help me ask ur friend if he can get KU36 in 205/50/15? and price? then can PM me the result? got a friend looking to change tires soon
 
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spectator is free bro..i think got some people set up booth over there also and will be cover by 4 major car magazine..come look look see see la.
 

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4gbanger, RSR i think around 700++ per pc :-(.. i really love to have it if i can affort.

Izso, many thanks for your info..May i know wat is the tyre pressure u running before warm up?

BTW, anyone interested to join coming track day at 17/10/2013 ( 10am - 2 pm ) RM550 i think, according to my friend there still slot left.
Erm.. I think I had it at 220kpa
 

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since itll be also used for streets...id recommend the KU36

EDIT: by the way... can pls help me ask ur friend if he can get KU36 in 205/50/15? and price? then can PM me the result? got a friend looking to change tires soon
ku36 205/50/15 RM2xx only
 

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Noted bro, but did u adjust the tyre pressure after few laps? Because normally pressure will be up by few PSI after few lap run, is the excessive wear is due to pressure too high?

Last time my tyre wear out very fast cuz i did not adjust the tyre pressure, only keep pushing lap after lap.
 

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1 guy told me, he use rsr 17 inch or 18 inch on subaru ver 10, tyre crack not even use 1 yr, te manager dun want change for him, so, he bring this case to tribunal, finally he get rm2500.
 

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123s side wall very soft. not suit for track. i used once on track sepang. i had been tested R888, 123s, federal rsr, silverstone fully slick.

123s is totally not suit for track. not grip at all. when corner more danger coz of under n oversteer.
 

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why so many people look shocked looking at the "RM2XX" price tag? how much you all buy your Kumho KU36 205/50/15? just bought mine 3 months ago for RM295 each at Jooi Seng, Klang.
 

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why so many people look shocked looking at the "RM2XX" price tag? how much you all buy your Kumho KU36 205/50/15? just bought mine 3 months ago for RM295 each at Jooi Seng, Klang.
because at one point before it became scarce, the price went up to about RM320-350/pc from its initial release price of RM280/pc

recently my friend called some random online advertiser and asked and got a quote of RM5xx/pc for 205/50/15 LOL LOL LOL when asked why... "because the tires are hard to find now"
 

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