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<blockquote data-quote="^pomen_GTR^" data-source="post: 1064601472" data-attributes="member: 92301"><p>to simplify things....lets look on stock setup first....and calculate the ARB size differences in percentage....</p><p></p><p></p><p>as long as u keep the percentage upgrade within close range (example: 30% upgrade front with 28% upgrade rear) i would say car balance would be like stock setup..but less body roll...</p><p></p><p></p><p>but if u choose different upgrade percentage like my other car (example: +30% front with +40% rear) my car behave towards more oversteer (snap oversteer to be precise) but thats what i want because that car already setup with too many understeer in the first place.....(with my driving style anyway)......</p><p></p><p></p><p>to say it in even simpler words....what ever upgrade/change u made to the car....dont go too extreme on only certain parts...take sensible upgrade in all aspect..... (make the springs+struts+arb combo work in harmonic way: firm spring+firm damper+firm arb would be good)</p><p></p><p>example:</p><p></p><p>stock= soft spring+soft damper+soft arb = comfort but floaty with a lot of bodyroll in corner</p><p></p><p>soft spring+soft damper+firm arb = comfort and floaty but less bodyroll in corner</p><p></p><p></p><p>when most people go upgrade with adjustable suspension</p><p></p><p></p><p>- hard spring+hard damper+hard arb= BAD (meant for track setup anyway)</p><p>- hard spring+firm damper+hard arb= BAD</p><p>- hard spring+soft damper+hard arb= BAD damper</p><p>- hard spring+hard damper+firm arb= not too good (bouncy ride but still got bodyroll)</p><p>- hard spring+hard damper+soft arb= not too good (bodyroll like stock car..just more stable because of harder spring and damper) </p><p></p><p>- firm spring+hard damper+hard arb= not too good (harsh ride)</p><p>- firm spring+firm damper+hard arb= not too good...harsh on rough surface but really good on highspeed cornering (using this setup in my wife daily driven satria)</p><p>- firm spring+soft damper+hard arb= damper could kong easily</p><p>- firm spring+hard damper+firm arb= not too good on bumpy road, good on high speed straight and cornering (but i'm using this setup for my heavyweight boxer and liking it much)</p><p>- firm spring+firm damper+firm arb= GOOD average everything which suits most people</p><p>- firm spring+firm damper+soft ARB= good for some...but most wants better handling than this hence need the better ARB upgrade</p><p></p><p>_________________________________________________________________________</p><p></p><p>MY (*me..other may not agree) suggestion best work for most normal people daily driver is:</p><p></p><p>soft close to stock spring+firm damper+firm ARB... (and this is what most newer proton use to promote handling tuned by lotus anyway <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/driver.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":driver:" title="Driver :driver:" data-shortname=":driver:" />)</p><p></p><p>____________________________________________________</p><p></p><p>previously once i tried big ARB rear+stock ARB front on my satria....because of short body..snap oversteer become more obvious...and didnt want spend much on expensive front ARB..hence the front stock ARB that alreadby big, gets new ARB link at diff location...and it became HARD arb setting... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="rofl :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> but thats good because it force me to soften the spring rate front and rear.....which now the current setting was.... <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/driver.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":driver:" title="Driver :driver:" data-shortname=":driver:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="^pomen_GTR^, post: 1064601472, member: 92301"] to simplify things....lets look on stock setup first....and calculate the ARB size differences in percentage.... as long as u keep the percentage upgrade within close range (example: 30% upgrade front with 28% upgrade rear) i would say car balance would be like stock setup..but less body roll... but if u choose different upgrade percentage like my other car (example: +30% front with +40% rear) my car behave towards more oversteer (snap oversteer to be precise) but thats what i want because that car already setup with too many understeer in the first place.....(with my driving style anyway)...... to say it in even simpler words....what ever upgrade/change u made to the car....dont go too extreme on only certain parts...take sensible upgrade in all aspect..... (make the springs+struts+arb combo work in harmonic way: firm spring+firm damper+firm arb would be good) example: stock= soft spring+soft damper+soft arb = comfort but floaty with a lot of bodyroll in corner soft spring+soft damper+firm arb = comfort and floaty but less bodyroll in corner when most people go upgrade with adjustable suspension - hard spring+hard damper+hard arb= BAD (meant for track setup anyway) - hard spring+firm damper+hard arb= BAD - hard spring+soft damper+hard arb= BAD damper - hard spring+hard damper+firm arb= not too good (bouncy ride but still got bodyroll) - hard spring+hard damper+soft arb= not too good (bodyroll like stock car..just more stable because of harder spring and damper) - firm spring+hard damper+hard arb= not too good (harsh ride) - firm spring+firm damper+hard arb= not too good...harsh on rough surface but really good on highspeed cornering (using this setup in my wife daily driven satria) - firm spring+soft damper+hard arb= damper could kong easily - firm spring+hard damper+firm arb= not too good on bumpy road, good on high speed straight and cornering (but i'm using this setup for my heavyweight boxer and liking it much) - firm spring+firm damper+firm arb= GOOD average everything which suits most people - firm spring+firm damper+soft ARB= good for some...but most wants better handling than this hence need the better ARB upgrade _________________________________________________________________________ MY (*me..other may not agree) suggestion best work for most normal people daily driver is: soft close to stock spring+firm damper+firm ARB... (and this is what most newer proton use to promote handling tuned by lotus anyway :biggrin: :driver:) ____________________________________________________ previously once i tried big ARB rear+stock ARB front on my satria....because of short body..snap oversteer become more obvious...and didnt want spend much on expensive front ARB..hence the front stock ARB that alreadby big, gets new ARB link at diff location...and it became HARD arb setting... :rofl: but thats good because it force me to soften the spring rate front and rear.....which now the current setting was.... :driver: [/QUOTE]
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