Honda City CVT gearbox

[irontech]

Will upgrade ECU version help up? Like MC they did.

 

[AutoBlackie]

In the First place, was there a problem? WHy reset ECU when there is are no problems?

 

[Jackie Leong]

i don't know about you guys but i'm having a good laugh at the thread in AW although I for one am also worried like the rest of the owners out there of that "problem" happening to me.

At the moment there's only 7 real complaints filed for the petition, and I thought it was really a a big crowd of people that is affected by the problem. (although no doubt there may be other city owners out there that aren't on AW and unable to make their official complaints)

Read the petition thread, there are some people complaining that their SC claiming that they do not have stock for the CVTF and other SCs wouldn't have them either. However, did they actually take the effort to drive to another SC and ask? (or perhaps call them directly?) I bet no. While they are claiming other SC don't have it, I've got mine a flushed with CVTF a few weeks back (while the CVT problem thread is still on).

All these vibration issues, whether it's a problem or it's normal.. how can they confirm? how sure are they it's due to the CVT problem before condemning the CVT? Well, maybe the jerking problem may be something extraordinary to a CVT which is supposed to run smooth, but what sort of jerk is this? a gearchange jerk? if so, that's probably a real problem to the CVT as other cars are having their gear changes rather smoothly..

another complainant said that the tapping of the accelerator causes "jerk".. heck, don't they know this is a norm for the CVT? when you release your accelerator.. it'll create the engine braking feel.. thus the problem with "jerk".. i got used to it and i don't face this "jerk" that much at all.. well most of the time during low revs at standstill traffic i'll leave my car roll by itself..

while complaining, they just have to start giving honda city some other names like "honda silly and honda shitty".. now, that's pretty matured of them eh? bleh.. still thanks to them i have a fair share of laugh.

 

[hattech-v]

CVT stand for what? CVS i know laa... heehehe

 

[Keano]

aiyaa those ppl on AW forum should just go & complainla in one group, noble of them to compile a petition so honda would actually keep QC in check, who knows it might make a diffrence eh!

my xperience is from slight vibration during stop/idle is due to revs dip below 1000 (mayb around 800) do u guys notice the same thing? try shutting off aircon but little help, oi jackie 3.30am still studying aa? sure top student d like this:)
hattech-v check out http://[url="http://www.asia.vtec.net"]asia.vtec.net/[/url] got pics summore!:p

 

[Riezal-R]

my xperience is from slight vibration during stop/idle is due to revs dip below 1000 (mayb around 800) do u guys notice the same thing? try shutting off aircon but little help

I think this can be fixed by adjusting the timing screw at the throttle body. Usually older or modified cars face this problem. Especially when air-conditioning is turned on and car is just about to idle.

Basically, you just want the RPM to stay around 900-1000rpm during idle

 

[Keano]

riezal, now dont dare kacau those things la, since under warranty i'd rather go to SC if problem gets worse. my old proton berani la. sum ppl say if add grounding kit would help but yet to test it myself:D

in AW sum of them say got 'tak' sound from dashbrd, happened 2 me once or twice, but tht is due to expansion/contraction during hot/cold day. in the morning if it rains and summore aircon running surely dashbrd plastic contract a bit wan wat. ya la mayb dont xperience in accord or civic but just in case u guyz dont notice, citys r the 'cheapest' honda cars around la...:p

 

[Riezal-R]

Ya grounding helps too. And yes, don't fiddle with it yourself. Get workshop to do it.

I got one question about warranty. Is it true that warranty is void once you change rims? Not service warranty, but warranty on parts. Coz usually Honda gives 3 years/100000kms warranty on parts.

 

[Jackie Leong]

probably warranty void on suspension cuz changing rims gives different stress/strain to the suspension mer.. but then again, the SC may not be so strict with such changes as most will just change rims anyway.. :)

 

[irontech]

i don't know about you guys but i'm having a good laugh at the thread in AW although I for one am also worried like the rest of the owners out there of that "problem" happening to me.

At the moment there's only 7 real complaints filed for the petition, and I thought it was really a a big crowd of people that is affected by the problem. (although no doubt there may be other city owners out there that aren't on AW and unable to make their official complaints)

Read the petition thread, there are some people complaining that their SC claiming that they do not have stock for the CVTF and other SCs wouldn't have them either. However, did they actually take the effort to drive to another SC and ask? (or perhaps call them directly?) I bet no. While they are claiming other SC don't have it, I've got mine a flushed with CVTF a few weeks back (while the CVT problem thread is still on).

All these vibration issues, whether it's a problem or it's normal.. how can they confirm? how sure are they it's due to the CVT problem before condemning the CVT? Well, maybe the jerking problem may be something extraordinary to a CVT which is supposed to run smooth, but what sort of jerk is this? a gearchange jerk? if so, that's probably a real problem to the CVT as other cars are having their gear changes rather smoothly..

another complainant said that the tapping of the accelerator causes "jerk".. heck, don't they know this is a norm for the CVT? when you release your accelerator.. it'll create the engine braking feel.. thus the problem with "jerk".. i got used to it and i don't face this "jerk" that much at all.. well most of the time during low revs at standstill traffic i'll leave my car roll by itself..

while complaining, they just have to start giving honda city some other names like "honda silly and honda shitty".. now, that's pretty matured of them eh? bleh.. still thanks to them i have a fair share of laugh.

Jackie,

I 101% agree what you said. Especially from internet, so many fake mails, messages. Some of them from AW just try to fool around, maybe jealous.

My only doubt is which tyres should go for. For 185/60/14, really not much choice. Potenza G III, expensive, Dunlop P9000? Sorry, only 15" above...

 

[Riezal-R]

probably warranty void on suspension cuz changing rims gives different stress/strain to the suspension mer.. but then again, the SC may not be so strict with such changes as most will just change rims anyway.. :)

For instance, Honda only recommends 15" rims for the Honda Jazz. And they guarantee the parts will last for 3 years or 100,000kms.

Problem is that with 17" rims, wear and tear rate on parts like drive shaft, suspension and arms will increase. So I'm afriad that Honda will void the warranty and in the event that the CVT gearbox fails, they will go "Your rims too big, of course it will damage the gearbox".

Can anyone verify this?

 

[Jackie Leong]

if you've friends or members in a club around with stock rims, switch with them for a day or two and go claim your warranty :p

honda6831 has 17inches on his ride and i'm not sure what part was torn but i think it might be the bushes but his SC replaced those parts anyway. He said, go kawan-kawan with the SC people :D

increasing rims will damage the gearbox..?

 

[TODA]

185/60/14

quite common 14" size for passenger cars wat..... falken should have tyres for that

goodyear? michelin? or u wanna try kumho(Korean)

just survey more

 

[Jackie Leong]

14inches 185/60/14 comes with I-DSI and 15inches 185/55/15 comes with VTEC.

 

[TODA]

increasing rims will damage the gearbox..?

where this theory come from?

 

[Jackie Leong]

So I'm afriad that Honda will void the warranty and in the event that the CVT gearbox fails, they will go "Your rims too big, of course it will damage the gearbox"

something to ponder about.. hmm.. now what rotates the wheels? we can start from there :p

 

[irontech]

185/60/14

quite common 14" size for passenger cars wat..... falken should have tyres for that

goodyear? michelin? or u wanna try kumho(Korean)

just survey more

Yea, too common. Can't get good tyres in my list like Dunlop SP 9000. I used Potenza (not G3) and SP 9k b4 for my previous car with 15" rim, still prefer SP 9K.

Not plan change to 15" for my iDSI as petrol price keep going up.

 

[Jackie Leong]

if not mistaken, with 17inches your fuel consumption drops to about 4xxKM per full tank.. which is like a VTEC on 15inches =.=

16inches on I-DSI is common. We have quite a number of I-DSIs in Team City with 16inches, and some on 17inches.

 

[irontech]

Jackie,

How about urs? 16"? Wonder how is the feeling using 16" or even 17" at 1500 displacement vehicle.

I have a fren who drive Gen2, swap to 17". He said really sluggish.

 

[Jackie Leong]

i have test driven a fellow member's ride with 17inches k-speed rim.. not much difference from my stock 15inches at all except from the heavier steering wheel (unsure if it's due to tire series or rim weight).. well, maybe there is some difference but i couldn't really feel it during the test drive.. maybe cuz i didn't floor the pedal but on average driving around sunway.. it's just as good as stock..

mine is still stock but looking forward to upgrade soon :)