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InitialD

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It is generally perceived that front-wheel-drive cars - that is, cars in which the front wheels do both, put power to the road and steer - are understeering wrecks that fly off the road if you go into a corner too quickly. This is generally true, but it is possible to eliminate understeer and actually oversteer to a certain degree. Oversteering fun is not just the domain of rear-wheel-drivers.



Oversteer is best practiced in an open area, and preferably on gravel so you can lose traction without much effort. You will not be able to hold a long, continuous sideways drift around a sweeping corner with a front-wheel-drive car like you can with a rear-wheel-drive vehicle, and you cannot use engine power on a high-horsepower car to start a "powerslide" since the power acts on the front wheels. But still, contrary to popular belief, oversteer is possible with a front-driver.


Video : Watch a Nissan Sentra attempt to catch a slide
WMV format / 203kb / 6 sec.

One way to induce oversteer in your front-driver is to plow hard into a corner and then lift off the throttle in the middle of the corner. Lifting off the throttle will cause the weight of the car to "shift" to the front, thereby putting more weight over the front wheels and, ultimately, adding more grip to the front tires. However, if you are lucky, the rear tires will lose traction and start to slide outwards while you're turning. You are now oversteering. Some countersteer now has to be applied to keep control of the slide, that is, steer in the direction of the slide. Learning to precisely "catch" a slide will take a lot of practice, so it is better to play around in an empty gravel lot or a slippery track with large run-off areas. Start off at moderate corner entry speeds and then increase this speed as you become more confident. This technique is only possible with well-balanced front-drivers such as an Integra or an old Sentra SE-R. If your car can achieve oversteer in this way, you will generally be cornering faster. Practice with lower entry speeds, and gradually increase it as you get confident.


Video : Watch a FWD European Ford Puma oversteer around a curve
WMV format / 158kb / 4 sec.

A brute-force way to induce a slide is to pull the handbrake (or press the e-brake) momentarily and yank the steering wheel in the direction of the corner, then countersteer. For example, to take a right-curving corner, you could plow into the corner in second gear and as soon as the corner starts, yank the steering wheel to the right and a split second later, pull the handbrake. The rear wheels will lock and suddenly lose traction. The car will quickly go it a sideways skid, at which point you quickly start countersteering. Now, before exiting the corner, release the handbrake. The front wheels of the car will just try to pull the car straight again and you'll have to steer exactly where you want to go. If you don't release the handbrake in time, you will spin. If done right, eventually you will center the wheel and straighten the car. Throughout the turn, keep the accelerator at a constant position, but you can apply a litle more throttle on the exit if you think you are spinning out. One hand should always be on the handbrake, with the button depressed, so you will have to turn with one hand. The sudden slide is a little hard to control on the first few tries and requires quick reflexes. And, as stated earlier, a continuous slide around the whole corner, like those done with rear-wheel-drive cars, is not possible with a front-driver. Pulling the handbrake to turn around a long radius corner will actually worsen your cornering time in most cases, so it is not a technique for road racing. But it can save you if speeding and understeering off a cliff is eminent.



Most cars on the road today are front-wheel-drive cars, from Acura to Volvo. The only rear-wheel-drive cars available nowadays are either impractical roadsters, exotic sports cars or overweight luxury cars. There are a number of well-balanced front-wheel-drive cars available that are actually easy to drive fast around corners. Examples include the RSX Type-S and legendary Integra Type-R from Acura, Celica GT-S from Toyota, SVT Focus from Ford, Sentra SE-R from Nissan, and the new Mini Cooper. Do note that not all front-wheel-drive cars are suitable for oversteering. Many cars, like the Infiniti G20 and Chevy Monte Carlo, are set up to understeer, sometimes aggressively so, because understeer is generally easier to control than oversteer for inexperienced motorists. The methods described here only serve as a general guide and will have to be adjusted according to the car you drive. There are other techniques too, such as left-foot braking and the pendulum drift, but these are harder and require their own space for discussion.

On a cautionary note, sliding a car not set up with substantial bracing might cause your car to fall apart! Practice on gravel, grass or in the rain, in an open area. Then adapt your car and your driving to handle the tarmac.

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damn, the last picture showing the car drifting is exactly the same with the plc where i got in to longkang! just that i was moving in the other direction.

pulling ebrake on rainy day is too dangerous, once it starts to slide, it's not likely going to stop in a short time.

still remember what happened that day, got into the longkang infront of my college, damn! :(
 

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yea agree man.. rainy day da butt seems to slide lebih lebih wan.. last nite oversteer kao kao, counter steer also tak jadi.luckily my car still got 10 cm from da curb there.. if not my bumper hancur.. XD
 

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i still think e-braking is the best way to do it...basically e-braking uses a lot of rear wheel locking....so very kao la...but using a botak tyre for the rear wheel is the best way to have fun...my waja is fully orginal except for the suspension springs..so..using a FF car to drift is just for fun la...is for us FF drivers to have a drifting feeling....still a FR car is better la...but i dunno how to drift using FR cars....i feel that suspension also play a very imporant role when drifting...use hard springs won't tip over like those ARAB drivers....hehehe...so to all FF owners..."HIDUP FF DRIFTERS!!!!" ;)
 

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yea... FF but swinging forever(i think i better call this butt swinging ler.. takut kena flame if say drift)
 

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I THINK YOU GUYS CAN ASK MASTER KENG LAH.. HE'S DAMN GOOD AS I SEE WITH MY OWN EYES FF DRIFTING.. DAMN 7 GOOD MAN!!! :)
 

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Originally posted by InitialD@Oct 16 2004, 04:26
Best way to learn about FWD drifting is go-karting. It's cheap and safe.
???? Which kart FWD? As far as I know, the karts in City Karting, Elite & Extreme Park are all RWD, some more only rear has brake......
 

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Originally posted by InitialD@Oct 18 2004, 00:23
OSFlanker, got.. use shopping kart lah.. hahahahah
lol... shopping car AWD oooo somemore all wheels also can steer.. :P
 

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Shopping kart also RWD wat......the man/woman pushes from behind unless you like to pull your shopping kart :blink:
 

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if pull then ur kart will become FF liau lor.. :P
anyway is there any kaki here who enjoy or often doing FF ass-dragging/butt-swing/FF oversteer ?? just wanna know each other.. maybe can tag along one day and have some fun.. ^.^
 

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WinDz also pro in FF ass draggin ?
nice pic there wif da mazda sliding

u guys can find Sifu Keng in dcm or mayb can PM him la

yea mayb we can organize FF drift event one day so tat all ff driters can share some info n skills

i onli can do 180 wif my car here's a video to giv some comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHTg9R_2oKU

for enterin corner stil nit to practice more looo
 

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haiz FF drift Event won't have one coz been asking like 1 year from here..i've try to ask ppl but only 4 to 5 ppl register...jane also try before but no respond at all....
jane is trying to organize it last year till this year also no respond at all only 4 to 5 guys register LOL.....
 

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