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yeah, we'll see how the abomination fares out. what a sore comment.moe6 said:but that's sad news on the NSX :(. Now lets hope Honda gets the replacement out before Toyota's new abomination (and first proper sports car, nevermind first supercar, from them since the Supra) is out :p. Not very surprising, the NSX did outlive alot of cars from it's era :). the last Type R edition keeps up with newer ones too lol.
I have seen a NSX let fly (high rpm). this alone help me to think its within that bracket despite the 'civicness' interior ;)si|verfish said:Supercar my backside. And everyone else has a Porsche/Ferrari, Really?
There is a fundamental reason why it isn't very popular. The Skylines on the other hand...
not to start a flame war here..but I have seen one of Best Motoring's Supercar Tests : newest NSX - R vs Ferrari 360 Modena ( it's the Competizione version for the road, the one with diff wheels, got body stripes and the revamped F1 gearbox ) vs Porsche Turbo vs Lambo and 2 - 3 more supercars. The end result : NSX - R was 1st after the ( i forgot how many laps, 5, 7, 8? ) Do learn more about the NSX and Honda' s mentality 1st. When the 1st NSX - R came out in the rear..forgot liao..it was the best in it's class. The idea is to decrease weight, retune chassis and suspension components and little bit of extra BHP, with red full bucket Recaros and Momo steering : get the idea that Honda was trying to push out? And Nissan Skyline GT - R? Please, until the recent R34, it's still from a standard Nissan ( add HICAS, 4WD, wider arches etc ), Nissan's idea is taking a standard car and retune it to become the powerful GT - R, while Honda's idea was purely sportscar. And the looks : NSX with that extremely wide shoulders, really low stance..while GT - R is wide, but big, long and seems a bit bulky compared to the latter, right? You should ask around the pro's, between GT - R and a NSX - R, which one is better? I think it'll be the NSX - R..summore, no need turbo still can achieve standard Japan's 280 bhp...whilst the GT - R requires two turbos. A turbo'ed standard NSX would run rings over the GT - R at Nurburgring, no, a standard NSX - R would still run rings over the GT -R at Nurburgring...ekekekeke...But for a simple joe like me, dun say NSX - R or GT - R, any car would do fine for me!si|verfish said:You see, the Skyline doesn't look like your average supercar but it performs like one, which is always good AND it doesn't try too hard to be something it isn't. Which is what the NSX was always trying to do, being a Ferrari (isn't even worth trying).
Badge is very very important when it comes to these sort of cars. So is the interior when you are paying that much money. In other words, Honda got the supercar formula wrong.
I do believe the story was when NSX first came out it ruffled everyone esp ferrari president! He even challeged their engineers (they all knew the NSX was way better than any ferrari then esp 348s.)si|verfish said:You see, the Skyline doesn't look like your average supercar but it performs like one, which is always good AND it doesn't try too hard to be something it isn't. Which is what the NSX was always trying to do, being a Ferrari (isn't even worth trying).
Badge is very very important when it comes to these sort of cars. So is the interior when you are paying that much money. In other words, Honda got the supercar formula wrong.
a supercar is not only for straights...of course the Modena would win on top speed, but I believe 0 - 400 quarter mile times shouldn't be too bad between the two..and 100 kph - 0 kph times? NSX - R surely wins..please do understand the diff between a NSX - R and a Ferrari Modena bro..NSX - R is for pure sports ( stripped out interior, lightened bodyparts, better chassis ) while most Ferrari's are for grand touring, right? Example : if we can get a standard NSX ( no need NSX - R ) to run up Bkt Tinggi, the time would certainly be lower than a Modena up the same stretch. A Ferrari is quite a handful in extreme situations, while a NSX is always meant to be more neutral ( what all racers would want from their car! ) And the 350Z was not meant to be pure sportscar, more like a mini grand touring machine la..of course la kena with the Modena..why did Nissan produce the 350Z? To relive the memories of the old 280Z la...and the price bracket? With the same amount spent on a second hand Modena ( what? 600k? ), you can get yourself a fully CF - bodied NSX ( better weight to power ratio ) with at least 450 of useful bhp, with a very - very nice chassis and suspension setup. And of course, the ability to bite off the Modena's tail...links said:ace79,
dont fully believe the Best Motoring. There were race drivers criticise this show is very "Big Japanese"...firstly is they critise the drivers usually didnt maximise the power of non-japanese cars..especially on the straight...and then using touch up on the video to make the race like really very serious...some of the episode is very crappy
If you try...using an NSX-R to keep up with a Modena stratale with both driver max out the car in real life you will know what is the difference of 280hp to 420hp...with similar weight...by the way...this show did made my friend stupid enough to use his 350z to chase a modena on highway...outcome??? eat dirt....and smoke...