4G91 Gang..

yah lor.. so much excuses lar...
herbie.. i sms u also u din bother replying..wat ler...
dont tell me yr handphone keypad also tercabut....:laugh:
i was waitiing for the flag lar...

btw thx to all those who put in so much effort to attend n made this TT a success :top:.. u guys a gr8..
ayeel thx 4 the treat:_:

btw..pic wil be posted as soon as the editing is done...
n engine bay pics wil not be posted due to safety reasons...
 
partyJOE said:
btw..pic wil be posted as soon as the editing is done...
n engine bay pics wil not be posted due to safety reasons...
dont forget to photoshop our car, remove all the kotor2.. also edit all the faces to look more macho.. hahaha
 
tajulsans said:
I think a few of the members has posted their num in here, Partyjoe, Alvin and myself i'm sure have posted our nums.. Still think u guys can do better..

Anyway, thanx for all that had made it to the TT, good to c u guys ler.. also good effort from Veldrin and Arimizan (as first timers).. Next TT sure more havoc when all have used to one another.. and also wanna thank Ayell for sponsoring F&B, lupe nak tanye, girl tu bini ke aweks?? hehe

Partyjoe, when can c the pics beb??

yo guys... thanx alot for welcoming me for the TT... It was cool... WiraFly, thanx for the tip for the rebuilding of gear box...
PartyJoe, hope to see the photo soon... and im stillamazed wit your design on your cal.. respect....

Next time call me again... i sure wan to come....
 
i want to thank all of 4g91 sifu here ...good info beb tak rugi rasanya pegi tt and thanks ayell to for the drinks...
 
tajulsans said:
dont forget to photoshop our car, remove all the kotor2.. also edit all the faces to look more macho.. hahaha

macho ah...hmmmm...
then i think il replace yr face with mine lor...
wuahhahahaha :laugh:

veldrin, arimizan... gud to hear dat u guys r happy:_:
 
Auto info

THE USE OF AUTOMATIC GEARBOXES

Automatic gearboxes and modern derivatives are becoming more common but some drivers are uncertain
as how to make the best use of them. These notes, outlining the expectations of the examiner, are
designed to assist you get the most from your vehicle as you prepare for the advanced test. A reasonable
understanding of the general principles of the automatic gearbox will enable you to make appropriate
decisions based on the prevailing circumstances and the performance of your vehicle.

The modern automatic boxes can contain anything from three to six different ratios and may also be
enhanced with ‘Economy’ or Sport’ modes. They also have different names such as tiptronic,
selectomatic, steptronic and multitronic. The change mechanism can be mounted on the floor or within
the steering wheel/column. Manufacturers have invested heavily in these gear change systems and you
should first refer to the owner’s manual for advice.

Let us consider, briefly, the make-up of the automatic transmission. In the majority of cases this consists
of a torque converter and a set of gears called planetary or epicyclical gear train. These are fitted to the
car in place of a conventional clutch and gearbox.

The torque converter, as the name implies, converts the torque or turning effort of the engine power
through the gear ratios to the drive wheels. Basically, the torque converter consists mainly of an impeller,
which is driven by the engine and a turbine that drives the gearbox. Each is bowl shaped and contains a
number of partitions or vanes. They are mounted face-to-face in the oil filled gearbox but there is no
physical contact between them. Put simply, when you press the accelerator you increase the speed of the
impeller, which forces the gearbox oil through the vanes of the turbine, making it rotate. An increase or
decrease in torque has the same effect as changing to a higher or lower gear

This almost fluid connection between the engine, through the gearbox, to the drive wheels means that
leaving the gear lever in ‘D’ when negotiating a hazard is not the same as leaving a manual gearbox in top
gear.

The majority of gear selector positions are marked:

P PARK must never be engaged whilst the vehicle is in motion as it locks the transmission and
prevents the car from moving.
R REVERSE
N NEUTRAL
D AUTOMATIC DRIVE USING ALL FORWARD GEARS and a configuration of 1, 2, 3
and 4 for manual selection, or a symbol such as a plus or minus sign for upward or
downward manual changes. For normal driving the lever can remain in ‘D’ and allow the
transmission to make automatic adjustments according to road speed, engine loading and
accelerator position.
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Many drivers of automatics leave the gear selector in D and never consider other options built into the
gearbox even though there are times when this might be clearly desirable to optimise flexibility and
control of the vehicle. In many cases this is due to ignorance of the potential benefits of using the full
range of the gearbox.

If it is necessary to manually change down and limit the range of gear ratios the gear lever or change
mechanism should be moved to the required position. The owner’s manual will describe the most
appropriate method. Selecting the ratio is done within the system of car control when the desired speed
has been reached and that speed is within the range of the ratio chosen. Most modern systems will over-
ride the lever selection and prevent a change to a lower gear if the engine revs or the road speed are too
high.

Manually selecting a set of ratios may be in response a particular hazard where there is a need for more
control through use of the accelerator. This will prevent the gear changing up automatically, which may
result in the vehicle ‘running on’ and increasing speed when this is not required. Manually locking a ratio
also provides the flexibility to control speed during and after an overtaking manoeuvre, as an alternative
to a ‘kick-down’ or when approaching an area of uncertainty. However, when the specific or general need
for flexibility has passed the ‘D’ (Drive) option should be reconsidered.

Candidates may also choose to retain a lower ratio, for instance within a built-up area, to improve control
through the accelerator. However, the upper ratio selected should be appropriate to the circumstances.
Selecting 3 in a 5 speed automatic box may be suitable for urban driving but 4 may be the better and more
flexible choice for winding rural roads. Leaving the gearbox in ‘D’ may be appropriate for open bends
where the flexibility of a lower ratio is not considered necessary.

Candidates should remember that, as with a manual gearbox, selecting a specific ratio on an automatic
box should take place when the correct speed for the hazard has been attained. As with a manual gearbox
secondary braking should be avoided.

Some police forces advocate a more direct manual use of the automatic box, particularly in ‘pursuit’ or
‘response’ situations. However, for the purposes of the RoSPA test, where that degree of flexibility and
maximum performance is neither required nor necessary, the manual over-ride facility must not be used
excessively.

When immediate maximum acceleration is required the ‘kickdown’ facility may be beneficial. This is
engaged by pushing the accelerator pedal to the full throttle position, overcoming the built-in resistance.
This causes an immediate down shift into the gear for maximum acceleration. When the accelerator pedal
is released the gearbox will automatically change up.

When stationary in traffic, even for many minutes, it is not necessary to move the gear lever into neutral
because the torque converter absorbs the engine’s propulsion force but does not transmit it all to the
gearbox. No wear is taking place. In fact, more wear will take place if you engage neutral then engage a
drive gear when it is possible to move off. Most gearboxes will automatically select first gear when the
vehicle becomes stationary.

While guidance may be given regarding the correct actions in certain circumstances, not all eventualities
can be covered. The following is intended as general guidance in some common sets of circumstances.

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You should cover the footbrake when moving the gear lever when the vehicle is stationary. You may wish
to set the parking brake as many vehicles will ‘creep’ and some vehicles may have a tendency to lurch,
particularly if fitted with an automatic choke.

Stops in traffic, at junctions and at traffic lights leave the selector in D. There is no need to move into
neutral, as no damage will result. You may wish to set the parking brake if the pause becomes a wait but
your decision will depend on the circumstances.

AT ROUNDABOUTS: Leave in D unless a lower set of ratios has already been selected, in which case it
may be appropriate to leave it in that ratio.

ON BENDS: Single bends can normally be negotiated in D. For a series of bends consider locking the
vehicle into a suitable ratio prior to the first bend, and on exit from that bend, when the accelerator is
eased to set the vehicle up for the next bend, the vehicle will not automatically change up and the driver
will have the benefit of engine braking which will give better control.

OVERTAKING: Depending on the circumstances, use either a planned, predetermined lower ratio lock
or the ‘kickdown’.

If acceleration is needed followed by deceleration to fit into a gap, manually selecting a lower gear or
‘locking’ the ratio before the start of the manoeuvre may be beneficial.

STEEP HILLS: When descending steep hills in DRIVE, the vehicle will tend to drop into its highest
ratio. This will result in excessive use of the brakes. Although brakes on automatics are larger than on
their manual counterparts, ‘brake fade’ can still create a problem but manually locking a low ratio
provides compression braking to enhance flexibility and braking control, particularly when towing a
trailer/caravan. Conversely, when ascending a steep hill, manually locking a ratio may also provide better
control and improve smoothness if the vehicle is hunting between two ratios.

GENERAL

In unusual circumstances when the gearbox is continually changing up and down between two gears,
manually selecting an appropriate ratio may prevent undue wear of the gearbox components.

A ‘Sport mode merely programs the vehicle to hold a lower ratio until a higher engine speed is reached.
On twisting roads ‘Sport’ mode will often hold a gear sufficiently thus reducing the need for a manual
over-ride. ‘Economy’ mode merely optimises the fuel efficiency of the engine.

It is not necessary to either kickdown or change down manually for a hazard simply because one would
change down if driving a car with a manual gearbox when negotiating that same hazard. The modern
automatic gearbox is designed to select the correct ratio for the speed and throttle setting, and it does so
very well. A manual intervention should be a considered option and planned to give a specific advantage
or benefit according to the circumstances encountered. It should not be undertaken solely to demonstrate
to the examiner that you know how to do it.

As with all aspects of driving, this technique is not carved in tablets of stone. There may well other
occasions when you judge it necessary to manually over-ride the gearbox and, if that is the case, then do it. But do not make excessive use of the manual holds and return to ‘D’ when the need has passed.
 
wirafly the hold button you ask in our tt is for us to hold our gear in that gear only this is useful when you want to... let say lock on your 3rd gear from going to 4th when you going downhill and then gives you more control taking corner with your car
 
partyJOE said:
yah lor.. so much excuses lar...
herbie.. i sms u also u din bother replying..wat ler...
dont tell me yr handphone keypad also tercabut....:laugh:
i was waitiing for the flag lar...

btw thx to all those who put in so much effort to attend n made this TT a success :top:.. u guys a gr8..
ayeel thx 4 the treat:_:

btw..pic wil be posted as soon as the editing is done...
n engine bay pics wil not be posted due to safety reasons...

that one not excuse laa bro ... thats the real wat heppen to me laa ... when i tell ill come then ill try my best to come ... remember our record ? tt with 2 person that only u and me come ... actually if u wanna know my handphone been tertinggal di my parent home last week ... now still not balik kampung to pickup back my phone..funny but its true .. how do i inform u guy if number pun i takda ... all memory dalam phone ... sorry 1 more time partyJOE for make u waiting for flag...:sad_smile: mind to share any pic?:X-:
 
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Arimizan said:
i want to thank all of 4g91 sifu here ...good info beb tak rugi rasanya pegi tt and thanks ayell to for the drinks...
Next time around i'm sure u will not be as reserved as this time.. hehehe, biase la 1st time jumpe, belum biase lagi..
 
Guys,
I'm sorry for leaving early, actually I have heavy heart to leave.. because I yet to "borak kaw2" with U all. Me and my girlfriend (this answer tajulsans question) have to attend a kenduri at 7:30 at Labu.

So anyone else appear after I left?
 
ayell said:
Guys,
I'm sorry for leaving early, actually I have heavy heart to leave.. because I yet to "borak kaw2" with U all. Me and my girlfriend (this answer tajulsans question) have to attend a kenduri at 7:30 at Labu.

So anyone else appear after I left?
No prob bro, there always a next time mah.. next time u drop by Klang valley just ring me man, sure can go borak kaw2 punyer.. I also wanna korek some of ur mod secret.. hehehe.. Wuit yell, kenduri ape lewat sgt tu?? Jgn ko mengenduri dah la.. hehehe.. jgn mara haa, joking oni..

btw, after u left onli mitec-i manage to show up..
 
Hahahah tajulsan I dont have secret mod lah.. but I like to borak2 about my mod.. certainly will call U if I'm in Klang Valley.. btw I'll be in Shah Alam tonite till 31st

the kenduri is not late lah.. it is "malam berinai", actually I'm not going but my girlfriend only..

"mengenduri?" hehehheh no comment
 
ayell said:
Hahahah tajulsan I dont have secret mod lah.. but I like to borak2 about my mod.. certainly will call U if I'm in Klang Valley.. btw I'll be in Shah Alam tonite till 31st

the kenduri is not late lah.. it is "malam berinai", actually I'm not going but my girlfriend only..

"mengenduri?" hehehheh no comment
Okeh, Shah alam not so far from my place.. Where exactly in S Alam are u stayin?? If u free2 wanna go yum cha just ring me at my num 019-3341152.. I cant call oledi, phone suda kene bar beb (yesterday)..
 
Okay.. I'll be check-in Concorde Hotel.. will call u later when I'm free..

Hahahhah...my phone also barred since last month.. luckyly I've another number (prepaid) but need to swap card cos I only have 1 phone.. hehheheh
 
good to hear that the TT was a successful one :)
yeah...would like to see the pics of the TT as well...sure a lot of new monster rides in the group...haha

[[7up]]...yup...u can try to adjust the idling like wat mitec-i suggested...if that doesnt help....it could be a possibility that ur air flow sensor is having problem....
try unplugging out the socket...see if the car still sluggish....if yes then most likely its the air flow sensor....happen to me b4 when i changed my air filter as well...

ayell and tajulsans.....do give me a ring too if u guys meeting up for TT...since my house and office is nearby sec9 as well :)....tajulsans....u still have my num rite?
 
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woow....nice TT, our newbie Mr Arimizan and Mr Veldrin both very nice fellow, nice to met you both, finally I am not lonely in 4G91 gang, :_:, and very happy to know both of you stay nearby my house, especially Mr Veldrin, can considered next taman only, :shades_smile:, if free and nothing can do maybe we can have one small TT with partyjoe also cause we all stay nearby...hehehe

Ops, ayell belanja minum?? that shop ask money from me for my drink la,:shcokedcamo: how come ler?
 
wirafly.. really meh? How come arr? I think I've pay it all.. coz only one bill meh they gave.. Rm17 altogether..
 
ayell said:
wirafly.. really meh? How come arr? I think I've pay it all.. coz only one bill meh they gave.. Rm17 altogether..

yala, they collect from me, hmmm....next time we dun go there, RM1.60 also wanna tipu
 
hey thanks a lot skyline_maniac for the information.
i check already my air flow sensor with my friend one... actually, i forgot 2 put back one component... hehe dumb!!! so stupid!!.. i dono how to call tht thingy... upload the pic of tht thing later ok!!
anyway thanks a lot guys..
 

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