Car Alternator or Battery Issue

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Bro, he has idle issues. Alternator not supplying enough during idle. Like I said earlier, if alternator consistently undercharging, the battery simply goes flat very soon

simply need to drive faster :rofl: :driver:
 

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my wira cruising like 13.5V with aircon ON or OFF.
When idle, aircon compressor kick in it drop to 13.0V (rpm also drop) for short moment then regain 13.5V normal idle 900rpm.
May i ask , is it aircon compressor problem or "berat" ? Idle rpm take a dive to 600rpm momentarily.
 

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my wira cruising like 13.5V with aircon ON or OFF.
When idle, aircon compressor kick in it drop to 13.0V (rpm also drop) for short moment then regain 13.5V normal idle 900rpm.
May i ask , is it aircon compressor problem or "berat" ? Idle rpm take a dive to 600rpm momentarily.
A car at idle is not at it's most powerful rpm. So when compressor kicks in, it places an additional load to the resting engine. Hence rpm drops momentarily till ISC takes effect and raises the rpm to compensate
 

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my wira cruising like 13.5V with aircon ON or OFF.
When idle, aircon compressor kick in it drop to 13.0V (rpm also drop) for short moment then regain 13.5V normal idle 900rpm.
May i ask , is it aircon compressor problem or "berat" ? Idle rpm take a dive to 600rpm momentarily.
Yes, due to extra force required to turn the compressor, that is hwy need the FICD/IACV to increase the idling speed......
 

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Hi All,

Since sweelt talked about A/C, just want to check, if alternator has not enough juice, will that affect the timing of A/C compressor kicked in? I found out that the A/C is slow to come in during slow traffic, where RPM constantly stays below 2k rpm. Once got on the free way and the A/C works just fine.

Thanks,
Ken
 

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Hi All,

Since sweelt talked about A/C, just want to check, if alternator has not enough juice, will that affect the timing of A/C compressor kicked in? I found out that the A/C is slow to come in during slow traffic, where RPM constantly stays below 2k rpm. Once got on the free way and the A/C works just fine.

Thanks,
Ken
Not enough juice..
Worts if the compressor clutch is worn out as the compressor wont engage.
 

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Hi All,

Since sweelt talked about A/C, just want to check, if alternator has not enough juice, will that affect the timing of A/C compressor kicked in? I found out that the A/C is slow to come in during slow traffic, where RPM constantly stays below 2k rpm. Once got on the free way and the A/C works just fine.

Thanks,
Ken
Have to check whether the clutch not engaging or your air con refrigerant is low. When refrigerant is low it does not cool fast either especially in slow traffic. Once you speed up the compressor turning fast so the refrigerant works faster and at the same time at faster speed the condenser gets cool faster also.....
 

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Have to check whether the clutch not engaging or your air con refrigerant is low. When refrigerant is low it does not cool fast either especially in slow traffic. Once you speed up the compressor turning fast so the refrigerant works faster and at the same time at faster speed the condenser gets cool faster also.....
More evident in smaller engine with small compressor ie kelisa, kenari, kancil. Revving between 1500-1800 rpm during stationary will improve cooling which can be felt.

Some ac system wont engage the compressor at all when ut detecs low refrigerant.

My personal exp with waja that has worn out compressor clutch is it wont engage during jam. Once i rev above 2k rpm it will engage. temporary repair is modding the clutch which help for about 6 month before replacing the compressor.

anyway, i suggest to tackel the current issue first.i bet it has something to do with it.
 

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More evident in smaller engine with small compressor ie kelisa, kenari, kancil. Revving between 1500-1800 rpm during stationary will improve cooling which can be felt.

Some ac system wont engage the compressor at all when ut detecs low refrigerant.

My personal exp with waja that has worn out compressor clutch is it wont engage during jam. Once i rev above 2k rpm it will engage. temporary repair is modding the clutch which help for about 6 month before replacing the compressor.

anyway, i suggest to tackel the current issue first.i bet it has something to do with it.
Yup, there is a sensor, usually at the receiver dryer. This to help prevent compressor damage.....
 

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or simply the compressor itself already worn out..


where it doesnt have sufficient seal to compress and pump the refrigerant at low rpm.. hence it only good while moving at higher rpm...


another cause is the ac fan speed at condenser is lower than it should be...so the gas pressure is too high and too hot and not working efficiently as it should be...
 

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Not enough juice..
Worts if the compressor clutch is worn out as the compressor wont engage.
That's my suspicions but the clutch seems fine but i don't deny that the engine accessories have certain age on it. Will get it check out

Thanks,
Ken
 

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