Caught In Middle-Income Trap

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Read this at today's paper... find it inevitable anecdote. It's all thanks to the G's, that's why we end up this way....


Sunday February 7, 2010


Caught in middle-income trap

By Dr FONG CHAN ONN


A graduate teacher starts at RM2,500 per month in Malaysia, compared to RM6,196 in Singapore and RM15,661 in Hong Kong. Malaysian wages have fallen behind partly due to the gross divergence between the suppressed Malaysian CPI and that of the world.
OVER the last few months, there has been much discussion on the issue that Malaysia has been caught in the middle-income trap. In this article, I will discuss the rationale on why Malaysia has been caught in this dilemma, and some of the steps we need to take to emerge as a high-income economy.

From independence to the 1980s, Malaysia progressed rapidly. From an agricultural society in the 1950s, it evolved into an Asian Tiger Economy by the 1980s, mainly through labour-intensive industrialisation.

However, subsequent attempts to further deepen our industrialisation process met with mixed results; and Malaysia’s economic well-being generally remained stagnant, while many other countries galloped away under the scenario of a rapidly expanding world trade.
This is because of the following factors:

Price controls
In 1946, the colonial government enforced price controls in Malaya to avoid economic hardships after World War II. This policy holds until this day.

Price-control items include basic necessities such as rice, flour, sugar, fertilisers, milk, chicken and even bus and taxi fares. Because of controls, these commodities are much cheaper in Malaysia compared to outside.

For example, as of December last year, a kilo of raw sugar in Malaysia was RM1.35, while the world price was RM2.20; that of rice is RM2.75 per kilo compared to world price of RM6.75.
Since basic necessities constitute a large component of the Malaysian CPI, the cumulative effect of price controls for over 60 years has been a gross suppression of our CPI compared to world CPI (see Figure 1).

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Workers’ annual pay raises are linked to the nation’s CPI. The gross divergence between the (suppressed) Malaysian CPI and that of the world has also led to a corres*ponding significant divergence of Malaysian wage rates compared to that of the world.

This, in reality, is the major reason why since the 1980s, Malaysian wages have fallen behind wages of the rest of the world (see chart on Page 28). As an example, a graduate teacher starts at RM2,500 per month in Malaysia, compared to RM6,196 in Singapore, and RM15,661 in Hong Kong.

Besides restraining Malaysian wages, price controls also severely distort the domestic economic factor proportions, resulting in many factories using non-efficient economic production processes. With diesel and fuel prices controlled, and workers’ wages suppressed, manufacturers choose to use more fuels and labour as inputs – instead of more machines – resulting in low-quality Malaysian products and, of course, low productivity growths.

Subsidies
Subsidies began in 1961 under the Control of Supplies Act 1961. Subsidised items include petrol, gas, sugar, rice and other basic items.

In the 1970s, when the price of oil was under US$12 per barrel, petrol subsidy was a bearable cost to the Government. However, with the present high oil prices (over US$75 per barrel), this has become a disastrous predicament for the Government to continue bearing.

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As Figure 2 shows, the cost of subsidies has ballooned from 3% of government operating expenditure in 1998 to almost 30% in 2008!

The high cost of subsidies in turn restrains the Government’s ability to upgrade infrastructures such as public transport. It also retards the Government’s ability to provide competitive incentives for attracting high-income activities into the country.

Agriculture sector drag
The dominance of oil palm and rubber in the agriculture sector is unfortunately a significant drag on the nation’s ability to leapfrog into a high-income economy.

Given the plantation terrain, oil palm harvesting and rubber tapping remained manual in nature and (unlike grape or wheat harvesting) not easily mechanised. Up to this day, they remained as low-wage activities, fossilising our dependence on foreign labour (about 300,000) for the continued “vibrancy” of the plantation sector.

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The unavoidable presence of these foreign workers in plantations also meant that many labour-intensive manufacturing operations could still continue to exist in the countryside (even in face of local worker shortage) because of the easy “mobility” of these foreign workers from estates to factories. This also means that it is very difficult for the Government to disallow or curtail foreign workers in non-plantation sectors, when it sanctions such a large presence of foreign workers in plantations.

The cumulative effect is that there are now about 2.3 million low-skill foreign workers in Malaysia, making up about 20% of the workforce. They are in the manufacturing, petroleum, construction and domestic-help sectors. Lately, they have also penetrated into retailing, food and beverage, tourism and hotel industries.

The foreign-based Electrical and Electronics (E & E) firms have already declared, in their dialogue sessions with the Government, that they would be forced to move out if foreign workers were to be limited or stopped! This argument, if accepted, will mean that our economy could remain in the middle income trap for the foreseeable future.

Where do we go from here?
South Korea’s GDP per capita is US$16,450, Singapore US$34,346, Hong Kong US$29,559, while Malaysia is still at US$7,469. It must be remembered that in the early 1970s, we were at parity with these countries. In five years’ time they would be even further ahead. What are the bold steps we need to undertake to enable us to leap out of this middle income trap?
I will attempt to elaborate on some of these steps:

Phasing out subsidies and price controls
Price controls and subsidies have created artificial market prices that distort the domestic factor proportions and impede economic efficiencies. The Government has to be bold to find ways to phase out price controls and subsidies; maybe not all at once but over a time frame of say five years. Malaysia is a small country and we cannot live in isolation from the rest of the world economy.

Petrol subsidies, in particular, should be removed within one to two years; while extensive information campaigns are carried out to enable motorists to adjust to living within the context of petrol prices being set in accordance with the world crude prices, as is the practice in many other countries.

In conjunction with the phasing out of subsidies and price controls, the Government must introduce a transparent system of social safety net, providing welfare assistance to the needy, the disabled, the aged, the unemployed and the poor. A coupon-system (together with MyKad) can be introduced where those in need are given subsidies for basic necessities and other essentials such as petrol.

Of course, this implies the need for the Government to create a nationwide data-base of those in need, not unlike the registration system for welfare payments, but more comprehensive in nature taking into account employment status and also proving channels for verification and counselling.

High wage policy
Malaysian wages have been suppressed by market factor distortions for too long. The Government should encourage our wages to be pushed up in line with the rest of the world. When the rakyat can take home more pay, they are then better enabled to adjust to the reality of world prices that will be felt when controls and subsidies are phased out.

Many countries caught in the middle-income trap have deliberately jump-started their economy through a high wage policy. Singapore is a good example; in the 1980s, its economic progress stagnated and the Singapore Government deliberately compelled companies to increase their wages by 50% or more. Though painful at first, this ignited “a second industrial revolution” in Singapore when companies became much more capital-intensive and focused on high-end manufacturing and financial activities. Today, it is a vibrant economic hub of Asia.

We could introduce a similar high wage policy by initially requiring vulnerable sectors such as plantation and agriculture, labour-intensive manufacturing, construction and services (such as restaurants and hotels) to have decent minimum wages.

The plantation companies, in particular, should be required to pay higher wages to attract more Malaysians to work in this sector.

As an example, the 2008 Annual Return of the Asiatic Group – a typical mature plantation company – shows that its total wage payment (RM83mil) constituted only 18% of its before tax profits (RM456mil); and it can certainly even double its wage bills and still remain extremely profitable!

Employers would then have to use more equipment in the new scenario; many of our skilled workers who are now in Singapore can then be enticed to return to these higher skill positions, and in the process uplift the productivity of our economy. The multiplier effects of this would be translated into higher wages for the supervisors, managers and other professionals as well.

Innovative incentives for high-tech activities
The traditional incentives offered by Malaysia in the form of pioneer status and capital investment allowances are not attractive anymore. High-tech start-ups are risky ventures; they need large capital, and hence access to venture capital and government assistance. They also need speedy Internet access and rapid logistics.

They cannot work in an environment where restrictions are placed in terms of equity ownership or employment of expatriates. They, most of all, expect rapid decision-making by us in processing their applications. In early 2000, the Indian information giant Infosys wanted to invest in Malaysia and sought approval for their expatriates to work here; our hesitancy and delay in decision-making caused them to relocate to Mauritius!

We should follow the world trend, and be rapid, decisive and agile in our engagement with high-tech entrepreneurs. We have to introduce innovative incentives to attract them to come here. This includes the offer of cash grants (as a form of venture capital), and R & D research grants to companies to set up their bases here.

In keeping with the common practice of many other countries, the Government must also be willing to offer work permits and permanent resident status to highly qualified scientists and other highly educated individuals to entice them to work in Malaysia not only as a second base but also as a second home.

IT infrastructure and public R & D centres
Malaysia was among the first to recognise the importance of IT by the establishment of our Multi-Media Super Corridor in 2001. But other countries have since superseded us in IT infrastructure. Consider this: our Internet download speed is only 2.2 Mbps, compared to South Korea’s 23.6 Mbps and Singapore’s 8.0 Mbps; our broadband penetration rate is only 30% compared to South Korea’s 97%!

Entrepreneurs now expect to be able to work through their notebooks while commuting in rapid trains and cars. They expect to be able to do video-conferencing while on the move. Our current download speed does not allow for these, and more importantly does not allow the functioning of many of the new IT applications.

The Government needs to quickly bring the state of our IT infrastructure up to parity with the global standard as a precondition for pushing Malaysia towards a high-income economy.
Further, one of the most effective methods for rapid societal debuts of new scientific ideas and innovations is the availability of public R & D centres for niche areas, where high school and university students can be encouraged to experiment with their ideas.

This was how Steve Jobs was stimulated to design the first Apple personal computer in the 1980s in Silicon Valley. And a major reason for the success of the present Korean film industry is the Seoul Animation Center; a centre where Koreans who have interest in animation for movies, computer games, or digital advertising could drop in, play around with their scripts and hopefully end up with viable commercial products.

The Government should follow this trend by setting up R & D centres in 3-D Animation, Computer Accessory Inter-face, Micro and Nano-Technology, Horticulture, Aquaculture and others deemed suitable to our resource endowment. With the proper involvement of schools and colleges, this could lead to the formation of interest groups focusing around the availability of facilities at the centres. Ultimately, this will lead to more passion for science and technology among the young, and the germination of new ideas for products and services.

Leverage on Malaysian professionals and experts overseas
According to an estimate by MEF, there are at present more than 500,000 Malaysian professionals working abroad; and they are in major cities such as New York, London, Paris, Tokyo, Beijing, Hong Kong, and Singapore working and doing research in areas like medicine, financial services, engineering, accountancy, logistics, construction, venture capital and other services.

In my interaction with many of them, they said that they very much want to contribute to Malaysia’s progress. Given the right conditions, I feel that they could be persuaded to set up base here. Unfortunately, often times, we have not engaged them sufficiently.

As an example, the renowned UK liver transplant surgeon Datuk Dr Tan Kai Chah wanted to set up base in Malaysia but could not do so because, as a Malaysian, he was required to do a compulsory three-year government service. Singapore, having gotten wind of this, headhunted him. His liver centre in Singapore is now very much sought after by patients near and far.

Learning from this, we should attract our Malaysian professionals to return to Malaysia, by the Government setting up a Special Group to identify them and then engaging those who are interested to return or at least set up base here.

This engagement should be done discreetly so that their individual requirements can be assessed and met, and their problems resolved. If their foreign spouses want to work, if their children need special education, if they need R & D grants, etc, all these we should be able to resolve. Then and only then can we gain leverage on the large pool of brainpower that we already have.

We should act quickly in this respect, for such talents are being aggressively headhunted by other governments. The Government should do all it can to ensure that our professionals, with their wide international exposure, will end up on our shores and not become other societies’ assets.

Strategic location
Kuala Lumpur’s location at the heart of Asean and its multi-cultural environment enhance its attraction for many emergent high-income activities. We have often forgotten that KL is only 300km away from Singapore and it also has access to deep seaports and airports. Fortunately, AirAsia did not forget this and, riding on the wave of budget air travel, has developed KL as the low-cost air hub of Asia-Australia. With our current lost-cost structures, KL could similarly be developed into the low-cost shipping and logistic hub of Asia.

The Government should also aggressively promote KL as the focal centre for business transactions between East (China, Korea and Japan) and West (India and Middle East) Asia.

A few enterprising Taiwanese direct-sale companies have already established processing centres and warehouses in Malaysia for export of their products to the Middle East because Malaysian-labelled products are more easily accepted in these markets. This is only the beginning of a new wave of opportunities, as East and West Asia get better connected.

Green energy
Flooded with sunshine, strong winds and free from natural disasters, Malaysia is an ideal location for green renewable energy R & D and manufacturing. Renewable green energy has to be promoted to be Malaysia’s new strength. The world’s top three solar companies have now located themselves in Malaysia. One of them (Sun Power) is building the world’s largest solar power manufacturing plant in Rumbia, in my constituency in Malacca.

The Malaysian Industrial Development Authority (Mida) must work hand in hand with the solar companies to come up with incentives and a strategic policy to match that of China, which is currently the world leader in solar power. We must seize this opportunity to nurture a cluster group of ancillary suppliers to provide materials and supporting services to the solar companies, just as we did when we started with E & E in 1972. We must not miss this boat to build a “Solar-con” manufacturing base to equal that of the silicon hub of Penang.

Medical care and pharmaceutical trials
With an aging population all over the world, high quality medical care has become an emergent high-value economic sector. Highly-trained Malaysian medical specialists are working by the hundreds in Singapore, London and Dublin. More importantly, they are highly respected in their fields. They could and should be encouraged to set up base here and transform Malaysia into a world-class international medical centre. The big advantage is that our cost is half that of Singapore, and one-third of that of Hong Kong, the United States and London.

If we reorganise ourselves, we can be among the top in this area. The urgent necessity is for the Government to reconsider compulsory government service for recognised Malaysian medical experts. Isn’t it better to allow them, already in their late 30s, back to create employment and build up our medical base, as opposed to rigidly requiring them to work for three years in government service at great personal and family sacrifice to themselves?

Malaysia, with our multi-ethnic population and extensive bio-diversity, is an ideal place for R & D in pharmaceutical products, particularly in the conduct of trials for new drugs, before their formal acceptance by the authorities. This can be in the area of cancer, Alzheimer’s, osteoporosis, bone conditioning, and heart diseases. The Health Ministry and Mida should quickly formulate a new strategy to attract pharmaceutical companies to seriously consider Malaysia as their new destination for R & D and trials.

Oil and gas activities
Petronas is known worldwide for being a successful national petroleum company. Petronas has done really well for the country in terms of generating oil and gas revenue from both Malaysian and non-Malaysian fields. Unfortunately, unlike the E & E sector, up-stream oil and gas production has not resulted in the emergence of a corresponding vibrant downstream oil and gas sub-sector. We are still very dependent on foreign oil and gas ancillary suppliers for many of the specialised downstream services, such as rig and platform maintenance and repairs, safety training, search and rescue, and other related R and D activities.

Kemaman, Miri and Bintulu are now vibrant oil-related towns. Petronas can play a more significant nurturing role and spin off more of these related activities (which are now sub-contracted to foreign suppliers) to independent Malaysian entrepreneurs of all races, so that we can begin to transform these towns into mini Houstons. Besides its economic benefits to the country, this would also greatly endear Petronas to the hearts of the average Malaysians.

In this article, I have argued that Malaysia has been inhibited from fulfilling its true potential by distortions (in the domestic economy) caused by various policies since independence; by phasing out these distortions and focusing on our strengths in new areas, we can and would emerge as a high-income economy in the not too distant future.
 
I think ipost comment before on this, increased our god damn GDP per capita . Instead of increased the daily basic necesity.

Ya I do agree thank's to moron G.
 
that is just stupid...if ppl really wanna compare then compare it apple to apple...if you kira with the current currency exchange then of cos the difference will be very big...fcuker name only doctor but no brain...

then might as well put in...singapore teacher sgd2550 (rm6196 per month)...mee kari sgd4 (rm9.60) teh o peng sgd1.20 (rm3)...

i damn 9 9 hate when ppl compare shits...if liddat go ahead and move to singapore...ive made the same shitty mistake 3 years ago...i rejected a malaysian company offer for a singapore's offer as i was blinded by the currency exchange results and didnt thought bout the living cost...sgd550 a month for a store room they called bedroom while rm550 could get you a semi d if not an apartment...

unless of cos u working singapore but living in jb...or working for a singapore company and living in indonesia...now thats what i call life...
 
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Sometime i really wonder how people can easily assume other no brain... i don't see whats the problem with the article, it clearly pointed out some weak point of our country which is indeed very true...
take your example, mee kari sgd4 for maggie, maggie is malaysia brand therefore sell at cheaper price at rm4.50 over here, but price increased when it's imported there... Do you know much how much for imported instant noodle here in malaysia, averagely rm15 above, but you can get it at around sgd6 for a branded imported instant noodle.
And then, teh o ice, normal price is rm1.5 over here, and sgd1.2 over there because sugar and water are government subsidized, how much for evian, perrier, beer, liquor over there? still cheaper than malaysia.
No one saying malaysia not good, but too much tongkat ali will eventually get erectile dysfunction then end up hv to rely on it for whole lifetime which in fact you don't have to, a constant work out and healthy life style can get it healed... And can you please stop scolding people? Cos i really feel that you gotta fix your short eyesight problem, look at a bigger picture please...
 
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In response to the article, here are some of my thoughts on:

"Middle Income Trap"

I agree that as a country, we had progressed from an agricultural state to an industrial state - pushing the wages up to the middle income level in the 70s-80s. Right now, the middle income group in Malaysia is still the largest in the working population. This isn't surprising as many countries also have a large middle income group. Malaysia isn't 'alone' in the quest to push the income bracket to a higher level. The time it takes also depends on the mentality of both management and employees. Will the management (of both public and private sectors) agree to raise wages by at least 50% or more? Will the employees be content with the salary raise and just sit comfortably? No one will be able to tell for sure.

Many people have often said "i'm overworked but underpaid" and i've also said this myself many times. However, how much 'exactly' should i be paid? Should we follow US/UK/Japan/China or even our neighbour Singapore's standards? Not really. Each market is different and a 'free market' will find its balance after some time. No point debating that we should be paid like Singaporeans or Americans or Martians.

Price Controls & Govt Subsidies

We all started out poor. The govt did what it had to do to ensure everyone could put food on the table - hence the price controls on essential items. As time and also our status progressed, market forces definitely have changed and so does the costs of those essential goods. The withdrawal of subsidies is definitely very painful for all and everyone will make noise. And they have 2 very good reasons to make a LOT of noise.

1) wages are still low. if the general public are required to pay 'real market prices', then where is the increase in wages to reflect real market wages? you cant have one without the other as it doesn't make sense. even if you force the general public to pay real market prices - businesses will also suffer in the end because the profits will drop in the end because people just cant afford it even though the demand is there.

2) if the general public are denied subsidies on essential items, then the tax payers have EVERY RIGHT to demand that the govt 'live frugally' as well. no more contractual/guaranteed vacations or scholarships for their children (to the point of sending their own kids overseas while we are paying for it) or whatever entertainment claims or buy cars or buy houses.

if the govt can be transparent enough and prove how much they are REALLY subsidizing, then at least the general public will start to believe again. seriously, before the petrol price increase, we were told that the govt is subsidizing 30 sen. after the increase, we are told that they are still subsidizing 30 sen. when global price dropped, our petrol price remained the same and the govt told us that we are now paying real market rates and there are no more subsidies. then when global prices went up again, magically, the 30 sen subsidy appeared again. WTF? :confused::stupid:

Agricultural Sector IS NOT A DRAG!!!

Just because a huge amount of manual labour is involved, the whole sector gets labeled as a drag on the economy? Ever heard of BRIC? BRIC is made up of Brazil-Russia-India-China and many investors are flocking to those 4 countries to make money. What is Brazil famous for? Apart from football, its agricultural sector is booming like hell. Why don't we hear Brazilians calling their agricultural sector a drag? If the current agricultural sector minister doesn't know how to do his/her job to expand/improve/revolutionize the sector, then its his/her problem and not the sector.

What did we learn while in school? Are there still science and arts stream? what are the subjects taught in those 2 different streams? What are the courses that are most popular in colleges and universities now? Business, IT, Accounting, Economics, Engineering, Medicine. Agriculture? Not popular at all. In fact, due to the 'intake quota' system implemented in local unis, many of my friends were denied their choice of applications and were 'sent' to study agriculture. Many chose to go to private colleges and paid a LOT more just to study what they wanted and what they are entitled for. Their parents also paid taxes and yet have to pay again for their kids to study. What is wrong with this picture?

If our education (including higher education) system is already so outdated to the point that students are forced to study agriculture, how else do you think that sector can progress? If Venezuela can have grooming schools for Ms World and Ms Universe where only 1 out of thousands of the 'students' only can win Ms World/Universe once in every few years (talk about RoI, this really sucks) and they do succeed, what about our agricultural sector that contributes real percentage to our GDP? what real or committed investments are made into the sector?

Pioneer Status and R&D Initiatives

I used to work with an IT company dealing with computer hardware where our principal were very supportive of the govt's biotech plan. For 1 whole year, we were trying (key word - trying) to help these entrepreneurs to realize their dreams so that they can contribute to the country in the long run. Some of their inventions and innovations are really cool stuff. It was really hard for them and also for us.

The amount of red tape could probably wrap up the whole country like an ang pow. The 'funds' were also very limited and it was practically useless as it didn't even help them to cover like 10% of their initial start up cost. How to majukan negara when they are given peanuts but expected to harvest gold? I guess its only a matter of time that these intellectuals are poached by other countries for their ideas and expertise.

Brain Drain

If the govt is already giving 'so much' help to those who are still in the country, how do they expect those who are working overseas to come back and contribute? Every year, statistics will pop up in the newspapers and they will make those who are working overseas seem like traitors but hey, it takes 2 hands to clap - not that those overseas are really traitors but they are victims of circumstances. They have found a place where they are accepted and are happy being there. It will take a lot more than just a word 'patriotism' to get them to come back.

That's the problem with the govt. They rely on words more than action. Patriotism? We all love our country. We all contribute but why are there still discrimination? 1Malaysia? What does it mean? Does it mean that in the past 51 years, there were a few Malaysias? Malaysia Boleh. Words again. Does the tallest building/largest roti canai/longest janggut/widest waistline/dirtiest river do any good for the economy?

If the govt can invest in such things that brings so-called intangible benefits, why not also change the system and REALLY invest in the people who can really make a difference? Don't just cry brain drain for a few days every year. Its irritating and its boring. Imagine your friend broke up with his girlfriend and every year, he bitches about the breakup but we all know that it was his fault for treating her badly in the first place. Don't you feel like asking him to STFU or even slap him around for a bit?

On Healthcare

I can't really comment on the status of healthcare in our country. AFAIK, friends who are pursuing a medical degree could be looking at a minimum of 6 to 7 years before they can start their housemanship at a local govt hospital as compared to 4 years in the USA. If i remember correctly, by the time our local doctors finish their housemanship, a fellow doctor in the USA has probably completed their specialization course or at least half of it. Notice the huge disparity here in the time required? If we can have a freaking tall building in the heart of KL with around 40% occupancy rate, why cant we have doctors who can be helping real patients in 4 to 5 years time instead of the current 6 to 7 years? Which, is more important?

Pharmaceutical trials are a double-edged sword. It can mean breakthrough medicine for some but it may also mean unpleasant or even deadly side effects of the drugs. I'm not sure how protected we are in our current state of law against clinical trials as compared to other countries. Maybe some lawyers can give their inputs in this area. I also don't remember any medical malpractice issues being highlighted in the newspapers so I don't know if there wasn't any cases in Malaysia or it was all hushed up.

Traditional medicine is also very popular. Even westerners are learning acupunture and pressure points and Qi. We have such a rich diversity here that if its just the ministerial usual lip service of 'we will help this industry to grow' and then disappear thereafter (like our elected reps after an election), then no point lah... waste time only.

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Satanic,

IMHO, there can never be an apple to apple comparison between MY and SG. Although a meal in SG may also cost SGD 5 and a room rental can cost SGD 500, the reality is that there are other things that SGians don't have to pay or pay extra for. For one, their public transport is really efficient to the point that they DONT NEED a car. In MY, most of the time, we NEED at least a bike or if we are lucky, we can get a car. That is at least a few hundreds in savings already.

For internet, my friend is paying an average of SGD 18 monthly for a 4MB line, which is much lesser than the monthly RM80+ 1MB Streamyx line that frequent disconnects. His colleague is paying around SGD 80 for a 8MB line as compared to Streamyx RM 220++ 4MB line. See the ridiculous difference here in pricing and bandwidth? How not to compare and make noise? In my first IT job, we were involved in the setup of a new broadband company that was supposed to be streamyx competitor. It was gonna be a freaking fast connection (not Wimax) but because of red tape and many people making noise, the license was never given and the whole company just tapao without a fight. See how 'protectionism' is 'helping' the country?

In shopping, even if you don't buy branded stuff, you can get really nice clothes and shoes in SG and some are a bit cheaper compared to KL due to tax. I was in SG a few months ago and my friend took us around the shopping malls and we ate and shop there. I dare say the food is cheap if we are earning SG dollars compared to KL (no point converting as it doesn't make sense). Some of the dining places have really nice ambiance, furnitures and fittings and yet they are cheaper than say, TGIF in MY. The 3 of us had a full meal (soup, main course and dessert) and it cost us lesser compared to 2 people eating at TGIF MY (comparing SGD 1 = MYR 1). The meal portions are quite ok too as we were very full and had to lepak for another half an hour before we could move.

Of course, there are also things in which MY is better than SG. I don't dispute that. However, i would rather that our cost of living is not so high when we are barely surviving on our meager salaries.
 
hehehe take a chill pill...i forgotten to add a 'hehehehe' in my last post...but do explain how do you see the bigger picture...i might have missed it...the article was written in such that it's putting down our earning cost without properly adding living cost difference between all the said countries...last time our water,sugar,petrol was subsidized and we didnt have that problem...its all about how we coping n planning dude...my 'shoot' remarks was purely on the writer not the poster...

but seriously...singapore is a darn small country its easier to maintain a balanced gdp...

the traffic there was already kinda bad...adding up with the 3 different timeline you may drive your car around not to mention ERP's everywhere...its common sense that ppl wants to take public transport and it's common sense their goverment really concentrate on it...becos with MRT's one can virtually go anywhere in Spore...imagine that in Malaysia...this country be full on railroads and such :P

same goes to the internet mate...if malaysians population were as much as singaporeans, we dont have to share lines as much which in turn making slower connections... :)

and yes...singapore too has their own fair share of 'special company' its just that they know how to cover it up by making less of a bigger gap...

i agree that each country has pros and cons but then again...its all about the attitude...with bigger pay, the company expect hardworkers...my past experience is 7.30am till 8pm is all work...can malaysians do that? i laugh mr arse out when we making noise when the G's wanted to make the saturday a working day again...we have the most holidays ard...so all im seeing is you get what u paid for...

dont forget that singapore government manage to keep subsidizing and all becos of :-
1) fines...mistake a bit kana fine...
2) cheap water from Malaysia...
3) weekend smuggling of sugar,oil and petrol from their part time spies :P

try cutting this and see how they continue subsidizing...
 
Dear friend, your remarks doesn't make any sense at all... since you know it's all about COPING & PLANNING why you still saying thread starter is at fault for his merely one paragraph of comment? You do believe that G are COPING & PLANNING very well?

Seriously i don't know why you still can't understand the meaning of bigger picture even you have read the well written articles from the posting and bro mizunori's note...
When you said singapore ought to be well controlled as it's small you have forgotten that singapore at the same time have nothing primary mineral under them, not even water. Their achievement of advance technology, global logistic and finance are a significant result of well COPING & PLANNING.

Okay, back to the point given by you, ERP is sort of a method to control traffic flow, if someone were to worsen the congested traffic flow then he has to fork out money, at the same time, S's G also provide cheap and efficient public transport for people. If singapore traffic is KINDA bad then how would you describe KL traffic? No matter how bad singapore traffic is, at least it's still constantly moving... but KL? it's slow moving, sometime not moving, and most of the time countless people cut queue. We also have LRT and BUS but it just doesn't serve the purpose well all because of POOR PLANNING.

I can't believe that you actually believe if we have same population as singapore then our broadband will be fast. S'pore market are very competitive and therefore they are proactive in customer service, market development and quality of service, they aren't giving chances to complaint and even if they do encountered, they are fast in rectifying issue. How bout our side? server down time to time, satelite tv doesn't work during rainy day & etc... Call hotline have to wait nevermind, transfer to operator have to wait, operator transfer to respective department have to wait, then no one pick up call from the other end then bounce back to operator line wait again... In the end, it's all come to COPING & PLANNING.

The length of working hours doesn't equivalent to job quality, One person brain storming for 3hrs and come out with good works is good quality, and fulfill the definition of "WORKING". One person punched in at 8.30am then punched out 5.30pm, but spend most of his working time in chit chat, tea session, calling here and there due to poor product knowledge/SOP, follow up here and there due to previous hiccups... What kind of employee you want if you were the boss?

Here in malaysia no fines? thats why employee can lepak here and there doing nth and wont get fired? thats why internet service can sukahati to upgrade themselves? thats why car can park at anywhere they like? thats why youngster can transform into mat rempit??thats why tenaga can spoil the road to check their stuff after jkr made the road, then SAJ dig again fix again, then telekom dig again fix again, then............
WHERE IS THE COPING & PLANNING?

Wanna see the solid proof of result of COPING & PLANNING? check out spore glc temasek holdings and compare with our glc...
 
that is just stupid...if ppl really wanna compare then compare it apple to apple...if you kira with the current currency exchange then of cos the difference will be very big...fcuker name only doctor but no brain...

then might as well put in...singapore teacher sgd2550 (rm6196 per month)...mee kari sgd4 (rm9.60) teh o peng sgd1.20 (rm3)...

i damn 9 9 hate when ppl compare shits...if liddat go ahead and move to singapore...ive made the same shitty mistake 3 years ago...i rejected a malaysian company offer for a singapore's offer as i was blinded by the currency exchange results and didnt thought bout the living cost...sgd550 a month for a store room they called bedroom while rm550 could get you a semi d if not an apartment...

unless of cos u working singapore but living in jb...or working for a singapore company and living in indonesia...now thats what i call life...

me too, blind wif exchange rate ago.....now i move back to tanah air n say shit bye to my ex-boss!!!
country like singapore, oni can say stress...!!! malaysia more relax!!

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but actually i like crowd mrt n bus in singapore..hihi, alot hot chick. now near to cny, singapore chinatown is crowd wif singlet n hotzpant gal....really miss.:love:
 
wooooooo...... what a debate.... problem with the G is
1) corrupted.
2) too much supporting/backing up local companies (main automotive producer or main telco company) till lack of competitive companies from the outside world..... so who suffers?
 
but in malaysia oso gt strong point...like can throw rubbish anywhere without summon. in singapore, a piece of paper will cost u sgd50
 
yeah yeah..... been to singapore recently for shoppin & zoukout.... wanna smoke oso got zone...... ~sigh~
 
imho, we cant really say that SG is a smaller country therefore its easier to plan or manage. look at UK. its a freaking big country but their trains are taking up like 5 levels underground. that is how extensive their rail network can be.

broadband doesn't work best when a country is small. if this is true, then Japan and South Korea would have crappy connections but yet, the general public could already surf with 10MB anywhere anytime years ago. the real problem about our broadband is the stupid protectionist policies that is in place.

but in malaysia oso gt strong point...like can throw rubbish anywhere without summon. in singapore, a piece of paper will cost u sgd50

u loving malaysia for the wrong reasons leh... :banghead::banghead::banghead::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger:
 
dont be so serious. kidding oni mah. but malaysia gv me a `freedom` feel!!

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last time i live in singapore, i pay sgd52++ for 2mb unlimited internet from M1 broadband. sometimes i oso suffer from disconnect. i always oni get average 1.4 mbps. now i use streamyx combo rm110 for 1mb n gets average 1.2mb. i think malaysia oso not bad.
 
No matter how, i still love malaysia loh, really hope that malaysia can quick quick go on right path... No doubt spore is well planned but little bit too much liao...

Artworkz, dun be cheated by spore mei mei, they just expert in make up... in fact here got more hot chick oh!! but as satanic say, malaysia big mah, so chances bump into them lesser... hahaha
 
Most if not all of our neighbouring countries are progressing further and furhter in all aspest and here we are squabbling over allah, chinese whore,indian beggars, jets engine and backside shafting.

At present, vietnam's middle income is at PAR with us!! Can you imagine that?
Hope you flers who voted for umno/bn are totally happy. Keep on voting them back and one fine day this country will be the banana republic we all talked about.
 
Subcon,
Why do you want the link ?. Isn't it clear that the current Govt is screwing up everything ?.

The Legal System is Dead...
Civil Servants are full of corruption...
Enforcement is selective and toothless...
Foreigners (Bangladeshis, Indians, Indonesians, Vietnamese and others enjoy all facilities that we citizens get....

Isn't it clear that we need to give Pakatan the mandate to form a Govt....
 
Subcon,
Why do you want the link ?. Isn't it clear that the current Govt is screwing up everything ?.

well simply if you claim something you need to back up with some factual facts?? and it will also make some interesting reading i reckon.

@devious17

if it is not too troublesome for you can you provide me the links? many thanks
 

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