Rm8k Wira & Jazz GK5 ownership experience-A long way to go

[KHNG940413]

Maybe you can try upgrading the pads first. Try Trestor Advantage pads, they are back in the market.....

Will check them out. My friend bringing a Evo 3 brake pump for me now waiting him to come back. Will try to see does it fit or not.

 

[sweelt]

Will check them out. My friend bringing a Evo 3 brake pump for me now waiting him to come back. Will try to see does it fit or not.

Check brake oil, bleed. If still soft after 2-3 days, then can decide upgrade evo3 brake servo.
check/change brake pads too. Brake servo wont help if down line not working properly.

 

[vr2turbo]

Check brake oil, bleed. If still soft after 2-3 days, then can decide upgrade evo3 brake servo.
check/change brake pads too. Brake servo wont help if down line not working properly.

Brake MLM ah?....lol
Yah, if some cheap pads, no friction at all....

 

[minibeany]

Any sifu know Wira 1.5 can fit evo 3 brake pump?
The brake for wira is really soft

change the whole set lor... about RM1k.

already bought the Wira?

 

[minibeany]

Sorry to sound stupid. I tot wira doesn't come with abs in 2001.
Ok,noted I will check out for those thing. The braking is really rubbish. Even going 70kmh and you hit the brake but the car feels doesn't want to stop.

as i know all C97 doesn't has ABS. Only the C99 like Putra, Wira 1.8 and Satria GTi has ABS.

Year 96. ABS goes here. To be fair, very few Wiras had ABS back then

is this ori Wira ABS? or you mod?

 

[parakey]

is this ori Wira ABS? or you mod?

Ori bro

 

[KHNG940413]

change the whole set lor... about RM1k.

already bought the Wira?

Yup,bought the 2nd one. Total is RM8k include insurance,roadtax those blah blah blah.
Have done the service.Everything is still fine. I juz wanna upgrade the brake because of safety & the brake feel really rubbish.Hahahahaha

 

[parakey]

Yup,bought the 2nd one. Total is RM8k include insurance,roadtax those blah blah blah.
Have done the service.Everything is still fine. I juz wanna upgrade the brake because of safety & the brake feel really rubbish.Hahahahaha

If you have the chance, go test drive another wira of the same model, to see if it's the same rubbish brakes.

 

[KHNG940413]

If you have the chance, go test drive another wira of the same model, to see if it's the same rubbish brakes.

Will do so. Will try and ask my friend does he have any wira in the shop to let me test drive.
This is C97 model so I guess no abs?

 

[KHNG940413]

as i know all C97 doesn't has ABS. Only the C99 like Putra, Wira 1.8 and Satria GTi has ABS.

Mine is C97 so I guess doesn't have right?

 

[parakey]

Will do so. Will try and ask my friend does he have any wira in the shop to let me test drive.
This is C97 model so I guess no abs?

If want to check for abs, look at the brake pipes from the servo. See if they lead outwards to the front of the car like mine.

 

[minibeany]

Yup,bought the 2nd one. Total is RM8k include insurance,roadtax those blah blah blah.
Have done the service.Everything is still fine. I juz wanna upgrade the brake because of safety & the brake feel really rubbish.Hahahahaha

I guess it is because you're use to Honda brakes which are quite "makan".

 

[KHNG940413]

I guess it is because you're use to Honda brakes which are quite "makan".

Indeed yes. Hahahahahahha.But this wira brake feel juz like my previous myvi.....need to tekan to the end baru makan...hahahhahaa

 

[minibeany]

Indeed yes. Hahahahahahha.But this wira brake feel juz like my previous myvi.....need to tekan to the end baru makan...hahahhahaa

Wira brakes are better than Myvi... Myvi worst... no confident at all.

 

[KHNG940413]

Wira brakes are better than Myvi... Myvi worst... no confident at all.

To me is the same.Hahahahaha
Both really soft.

 

[vr2turbo]

Brake pads also important. Servo strong, pads fade also no use.......lol

 

[gunnerzz]

Indeed yes. Hahahahahahha.But this wira brake feel juz like my previous myvi.....need to tekan to the end baru makan...hahahhahaa

With drums brake at the rear, it needs to be properly adjustes to get better braking.
The different is night and day.

 

[vr2turbo]

With drums brake at the rear, it needs to be properly adjustes to get better braking.
The different is night and day.

Yup, agree. Properly adjusted at the drums, many short cut adjust the brake cable.......lol

 

[alcyon]

Could be your master cylinder. My old proton saga braked very well.

 

[Izso]

Indeed yes. Hahahahahahha.But this wira brake feel juz like my previous myvi.....need to tekan to the end baru makan...hahahhahaa

That's not normal. Wira brakes are generally pretty good in stock form.

- Service the brake servo and change the master pump and stick with ori. Upgrading to Evo pump is fine and all but you'll need to relearn how to brake as the pressure is significantly greater with the Evo one. Some people said it results in "on/off" brakes.
- Any Wira will be damn old so change all the brake lines to steel braided lines. Ori rubber lines will be so soft it expands very easily.
- Change to good brake pads. Avoid pads like metalking as they only bite after they warm up. Cold it's pretty useless.
- Consider upgrading to GSR calipers. The oil channels inside the GSR caliper isn't that much bigger than stock Wira so pedal feel doesn't change much. But the piston is much bigger so you get better bite.
- Upgrade the rears to discs from the Satria GTI or Putra. If you do this get both front and back if you haven't already bought the GSR front. GSR rears need some modification so avoid.
- Use DOT 4 or 5.1 oil.
- Flush your oil system and ensure there's no leak.