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Buy an Annaconda...I mean Accordana and masuk Type R K20A .
Oh, safety huh. Thats a good point.
2. Malaysians are forced to buy Proton because they cannot afford a Honda.
4. Proton SC personnels are not all well trained or monitored.
The Preve and Suprima, well so far there werent many complains on these cars because if you throw a stone towards the highway, chances of you hitting Supra Fanatics is higher than you actually hit a Preve or Suprima. So I have no comment on these models and I hope they do well and do not disappoint again.
To me, they are both the same. But why does Proton needs to rebadge some other cars again? Cant they produce their own ALL NEW PERDANA? Ok lets say rebadging an Accord is easier and probably much more profitable. But lets look at KIA and Hyundai. Their cars were not so good in the yesteryears. Now, they have became one of the market leaders in some big countries. I am ashamed. That is why I condemn and complain I guess.
Of course, people buy Perodua because they cant afford a Toyota. But at least the car doesnt give you high blood pressure after 5 years.
Correction. The average Malaysian are forced to buy Proton because they can't afford anything else.
Gotta agree with the SC personnel though. The bad thing about P1 is they aren't monitored like you said. P2 at least have a venue for people to complain (their website) and they take all complaints seriously. P1 doesn't give a rats ass about complaints.
Actually, I have seen a lot of Preves and Suprimas on the road. On the other hand I've yet to hit SupraFan with a rock. You're really discounting the numbers of Preves on the road. And personally I think Preve and Suprima is really value for money. These two are equipped to the hinge with technology and equipment and is one of the cheapest cars to buy out there with this level of trim. 6 air bags, leather all round, ESC, EBD, ABS, xenon, push start, etc. Name me an alternative that's priced in the same bracket.
The only downside to P1 is the apparent lack of quality. Lots of complained about the push start failing causing the car to immobile, the hoses flexing causing turbo lag, and all sorts of other minor things. However most if not all these problems can be remedied very easily. The car otherwise it's a pretty good car.
What's wrong with rebadging? Notice that the Accord they are rebadging is two generations back. It's Hondas smart in selling old designs to P1. P1's just being suckered into buying old junk. But it's plus in the eyes of public since we can barely ever afford another brand anyway.
Who says? My Kelisa was horrible. Myvis are no better. Rattling noises, expensive mountings, and the Alza is no better. I think all in all, all brands have different nibbling issues. And my Wira has been peachy since forever. Only issues happened whenever there was a problem with installation failures, ie-improper timing belt and a failed head gasket.
Proton does take their complaint pretty well these day if you ask me. Only those smaller SC are pretty lousy apart from just wanting to do servicing. When it comes to warranty claims, go with the bigger SC like COSE or PJ Sec 13 and they are quite good when it comes to solving issue. At least from my experience. So just avoid smaller SC if you are doing warranty as they are either damn slow or they will give all sorts of excuse to ask you to get the warranty done at the bigger SC.
If you have any issue or there is a delay in warranty, just email the wecare. They will assist you and they quite fast in replying.
As for P2, their quality really lousy if you ask me. I have an myvi and alza at home, their quality really bad. Rattling all over. Thought i would say that their after sales service is a bit better than some proton SC.
Correction. The average Malaysian are forced to buy Proton because they can't afford anything else.
Gotta agree with the SC personnel though. The bad thing about P1 is they aren't monitored like you said. P2 at least have a venue for people to complain (their website) and they take all complaints seriously. P1 doesn't give a rats ass about complaints.
Actually, I have seen a lot of Preves and Suprimas on the road. On the other hand I've yet to hit SupraFan with a rock. You're really discounting the numbers of Preves on the road. And personally I think Preve and Suprima is really value for money. These two are equipped to the hinge with technology and equipment and is one of the cheapest cars to buy out there with this level of trim. 6 air bags, leather all round, ESC, EBD, ABS, xenon, push start, etc. Name me an alternative that's priced in the same bracket.
The only downside to P1 is the apparent lack of quality. Lots of complained about the push start failing causing the car to immobile, the hoses flexing causing turbo lag, and all sorts of other minor things. However most if not all these problems can be remedied very easily. The car otherwise it's a pretty good car.
What's wrong with rebadging? Notice that the Accord they are rebadging is two generations back. It's Hondas smart in selling old designs to P1. P1's just being suckered into buying old junk. But it's plus in the eyes of public since we can barely ever afford another brand anyway.
Who says? My Kelisa was horrible. Myvis are no better. Rattling noises, expensive mountings, and the Alza is no better. I think all in all, all brands have different nibbling issues. And my Wira has been peachy since forever. Only issues happened whenever there was a problem with installation failures, ie-improper timing belt and a failed head gasket.
BULLSHIT
Speaking from first hand experience. This was at Proton Centre of Excellence next to Kesas highway. Excellent at what? Wasting your time.
First visit to fix a known problem, not fixed. Return again to fix the same problem, they broke something else.
Wasted my time to visit them to fix the "something else". And the something else is DUE TO THEIR NEGLIGENCE. Did they say sorry for wasting my time? No.
The something else was, they opened the bottom suspension to change bushing, didn't install all the grommets back, so the underbody diffuser or flap or banana leaf, whatever you want to call it, got chewed by the front tyres and gave my poor parents a shock of their life while travelling at high way speeds. My parents get heart attack, Proton reimburse me is it? If Tan Chong Mitsubishi is willing to service Proton Inspira, I am willing to pay their asking price.
knnmccb you think people buy Proton so can spend time to visit Proton SC is it? I make appointment at 9AM, your service consultant see me 10AM. HELLO, you INSULTING my intelligence is it? If the appointment is at 9AM, you better see me at 9 fucking AM.
Not only Proton. In Malaysia, fucking doctors also behave like that. Make appointment at 8AM, wait until 12PM. Then what the fuck for make appointment? And this was at Sunway Medical. This is called mentality lah.
I don't know about Toyota, but Perodua, my appointment 8.30AM, the service consultant will see me at 8.45AM tops, ask me about my problems, take my keys and smile.
What's wrong with rebadging? Notice that the Accord they are rebadging is two generations back. It's Hondas smart in selling old designs to P1. P1's just being suckered into buying old junk. But it's plus in the eyes of public since we can barely ever afford another brand anyway.
BULLSHIT
Speaking from first hand experience. This was at Proton Centre of Excellence next to Kesas highway. Excellent at what? Wasting your time.
First visit to fix a known problem, not fixed. Return again to fix the same problem, they broke something else.
Wasted my time to visit them to fix the "something else". And the something else is DUE TO THEIR NEGLIGENCE. Did they say sorry for wasting my time? No.
The something else was, they opened the bottom suspension to change bushing, didn't install all the grommets back, so the underbody diffuser or flap or banana leaf, whatever you want to call it, got chewed by the front tyres and gave my poor parents a shock of their life while travelling at high way speeds. My parents get heart attack, Proton reimburse me is it? If Tan Chong Mitsubishi is willing to service Proton Inspira, I am willing to pay their asking price.
knnmccb you think people buy Proton so can spend time to visit Proton SC is it? I make appointment at 9AM, your service consultant see me 10AM. HELLO, you INSULTING my intelligence is it? If the appointment is at 9AM, you better see me at 9 fucking AM.
Not only Proton. In Malaysia, fucking doctors also behave like that. Make appointment at 8AM, wait until 12PM. Then what the fuck for make appointment? And this was at Sunway Medical. This is called mentality lah.
I don't know about Toyota, but Perodua, my appointment 8.30AM, the service consultant will see me at 8.45AM tops, ask me about my problems, take my keys and smile.
On the other hand I've yet to hit SupraFan with a rock.
Who says? My Kelisa was horrible. Myvis are no better. Rattling noises, expensive mountings, and the Alza is no better. I think all in all, all brands have different nibbling issues. And my Wira has been peachy since forever. Only issues happened whenever there was a problem with installation failures, ie-improper timing belt and a failed head gasket.
Proton does take their complaint pretty well these day if you ask me. Only those smaller SC are pretty lousy apart from just wanting to do servicing. When it comes to warranty claims, go with the bigger SC like COSE or PJ Sec 13 and they are quite good when it comes to solving issue. At least from my experience. So just avoid smaller SC if you are doing warranty as they are either damn slow or they will give all sorts of excuse to ask you to get the warranty done at the bigger SC.
If you have any issue or there is a delay in warranty, just email the wecare. They will assist you and they quite fast in replying.
As for P2, their quality really lousy if you ask me. I have an myvi and alza at home, their quality really bad. Rattling all over. Thought i would say that their after sales service is a bit better than some proton SC.
BULLSHIT
Speaking from first hand experience. This was at Proton Centre of Excellence next to Kesas highway. Excellent at what? Wasting your time.
First visit to fix a known problem, not fixed. Return again to fix the same problem, they broke something else.
Wasted my time to visit them to fix the "something else". And the something else is DUE TO THEIR NEGLIGENCE. Did they say sorry for wasting my time? No.
The something else was, they opened the bottom suspension to change bushing, didn't install all the grommets back, so the underbody diffuser or flap or banana leaf, whatever you want to call it, got chewed by the front tyres and gave my poor parents a shock of their life while travelling at high way speeds. My parents get heart attack, Proton reimburse me is it? If Tan Chong Mitsubishi is willing to service Proton Inspira, I am willing to pay their asking price.
knnmccb you think people buy Proton so can spend time to visit Proton SC is it? I make appointment at 9AM, your service consultant see me 10AM. HELLO, you INSULTING my intelligence is it? If the appointment is at 9AM, you better see me at 9 fucking AM.
Not only Proton. In Malaysia, fucking doctors also behave like that. Make appointment at 8AM, wait until 12PM. Then what the fuck for make appointment? And this was at Sunway Medical. This is called mentality lah.
I don't know about Toyota, but Perodua, my appointment 8.30AM, the service consultant will see me at 8.45AM tops, ask me about my problems, take my keys and smile.
Want cheap give you old model loh! Mitsu have been doing so for so many years and Proton passing it to the rakyat as new....
I don't know about Toyota, but Perodua, my appointment 8.30AM, the service consultant will see me at 8.45AM tops, ask me about my problems, take my keys and smile.
My kelisa is awesome. One of the best built to me from Daihatsu/Perodua.
Center of Negligence. CON..
And Toyota, P2, and probably all workshops have the same issue of unscrupulous mechanics. They don't allow you to stay there to monitor your car so they can do all sorts of things without you noticing. Like not changing out your oil filter and saying they did. Or Keeping the unused oil for themselves and selling the days collection to punters. I've come across P1 not changing belting even though they charged me and claimed that they did. I'm not a complete idiot and I can tell the difference between a new and old belt. Too bad for them.
Which is why smile or no smile I never go to SCs unless I can monitor the mechanic working on my car.
You're lucky. I hated my Kelisa SE. Which is why I sold it after one unfortunate day I kena flooded. Managed to dry out everything inside but the ECU got fried so spent 400 buying a freaking half cut ECU. Why the hell is it so expensive?
Center of Negligence. CON..
And Toyota, P2, and probably all workshops have the same issue of unscrupulous mechanics. They don't allow you to stay there to monitor your car so they can do all sorts of things without you noticing. Like not changing out your oil filter and saying they did. Or Keeping the unused oil for themselves and selling the days collection to punters. I've come across P1 not changing belting even though they charged me and claimed that they did. I'm not a complete idiot and I can tell the difference between a new and old belt. Too bad for them.
Which is why smile or no smile I never go to SCs unless I can monitor the mechanic working on my car.
You're lucky. I hated my Kelisa SE. Which is why I sold it after one unfortunate day I kena flooded. Managed to dry out everything inside but the ECU got fried so spent 400 buying a freaking half cut ECU. Why the hell is it so expensive?
I wonder why dont they use the petronas e01e engine on the new perdana?
I wonder why dont they use the petronas e01e engine on the new perdana?
VTEC for the win. xD
Probably they dare not to risk anything like this in gov car. Like few years ago where there is this big case of gov officials claiming few hundred thousands repair cost to repair Perdana's gearbox. The same thing might repeat again if this new Petronas engine fails to work properly and be reliable.
Old VTEC are powerful but new i-VTEC seems to have become weaker. I'm not saying K20A of course.
Center of Negligence. CON..
And Toyota, P2, and probably all workshops have the same issue of unscrupulous mechanics. They don't allow you to stay there to monitor your car so they can do all sorts of things without you noticing. Like not changing out your oil filter and saying they did. Or Keeping the unused oil for themselves and selling the days collection to punters. I've come across P1 not changing belting even though they charged me and claimed that they did. I'm not a complete idiot and I can tell the difference between a new and old belt. Too bad for them.
Which is why smile or no smile I never go to SCs unless I can monitor the mechanic working on my car.
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