Recond Unreg 05 IS200 or 2nd hand Recond RS200?

[Sil80-13]

Just want to know if transplant a 1JZ turbo into Altezza, the all engine mounting is plug & play? How about the gearbox & long shaft? Everything plug & play

 

[Veloc]

Performance of couse 3S-GE Beams. But for smoothness at highway, and if you are not the power hungry type, then 1G-FE is better....

If you don't always rev, 1G-FE will be more thirsty because 6 cyl. But if you are the rev type, 3S-GE should be more thirsty...

 

[spwn]

if u plan to transplant to 6MT or 1JZ later, go with 1GFE, car selling price for it should be cheaper.
and if the above is not what u have in mind, and u seek better 'fuel economy',
go for myvi or viva, they drink less.

hehehe taikor wfhan, actually i want to get an all rounder. good for the wifey to drive and vroom vroom for me once in a while. the 1G-FE i saw in mudah.my has cruise control, traction control and 2 electric seats :p but if given the choice and have budget of course 6MT all the way! kekeke are we able to get all the above options in 3S-GE BEAMS (A) as well?

Performance of couse 3S-GE Beams. But for smoothness at highway, and if you are not the power hungry type, then 1G-FE is better....

If you don't always rev, 1G-FE will be more thirsty because 6 cyl. But if you are the rev type, 3S-GE should be more thirsty...

taikor Veloc, i travel long distance on highway quite often...so from your statement, 1G-FE is the way to go. the best way to find out is to go for a test drive of both engine types!!

 

[bushidofang]

I would still go for the 3S-GE either way, you get best of both worlds. You wanna cruise long distance? No problem what. Quite good in fuel efficiency also and it's smooth enough for a long distant drive. You wanna have fun also, no problem what. The 3SGE loves to rev.

In the end kena poison, no problem! 6MT, BOT or Supercharge it! Less hassle than a full engine transplant IMHO. The versatility of a 3SGE engine. :D

I'd fully recommend the 3SGE engine. If you are really concerned about fuel consumption, heed the advice of some of our members here, get a Hybrid. :D

 

[Veloc]

I would still go for the 3S-GE either way, you get best of both worlds. You wanna cruise long distance? No problem what. Quite good in fuel efficiency also and it's smooth enough for a long distant drive. You wanna have fun also, no problem what. The 3SGE loves to rev.

In the end kena poison, no problem! 6MT, BOT or Supercharge it! Less hassle than a full engine transplant IMHO. The versatility of a 3SGE engine. :D

I'd fully recommend the 3SGE engine. If you are really concerned about fuel consumption, heed the advice of some of our members here, get a Hybrid. :D

I couldn't agree more with this... Although a general rule is that 6 cyl are more rev happy and good for top speed, but the 1G-FE here is more of a cruising engine. Not for power mods. The 3S-GE in another hand is made for power. Many modding options in the future. Parts also no need worry.

Although sometimes personally, I will feel "gatal" for the 6 cyl burble. But if you are not particular about that, go for 3S-GE man

 

[green]

firstly, 4 cyc n 6 cyc engines have their own usefulness or fuel economy

no can really compare between a 3S or a 1G for that matter.

has anyone really ridden a 6 cyc yet? for a few years in fact.

both 4 6 8 cyc can be high reving depending on the engine

both 4 6 8 cyc can also have good fuel economy but also depends on the way u drive.

so whos to say which is good or bad?

it will have to depend on your wallet and the country u are in

for me, if u want fuel economy...pls go get a camry or what not. forget the tezza. the tezza now regardless of 4 cyc or 6 cyc is bound to be fuel consuming..depending on engine conditions etc becoz they ARE old engines.
go figure

if u want performance with a good bang for the buck, sure u can get a tezza i would agree to that becoz the 3S is high rev n good fun plus quite dependable...provided the car u buy has a well serviced record.

go for 3S as it has more spare parts available. the 1G no one really knows as its very rare in msia....so forget it. fidning spare parts will kill u especially the 1G's auto transmission

but generally. nowadays the tezza since is so cheap...its really for play type of car
no money dun play pls...gonna kill u in the long run

btw a high reving 4cyc will sound nice as well compare to a deep running bassy 6 cyc.

so which one u wan? :P
better make a good choice n sleep over it.

btw i have driven both 3S n 1J for a few years. i think both is good, just a naturally upgrade for me to 1J now since my 3S failed on me heh

and no its not so simply as plug n play for the 1J.

good luck

 

[bushidofang]

If you plan on modding in future and you love revving the engine, again, 3SGE is the way to go. You're right too, parts so far are aplenty.

I also 'gatal' V6 modded exhaust sounds. So good.

 

[wfhan]

Wah taikor wfhan..how can you put myvi or viva on our level..

For fuel economy..should recommend Toyota Prius...at least 27km/L for normal driving and at least still Toyota mah..

taiko grey, no la, just making comparison of 'fuel economy'.
in my perspective, it should defined it properly like making a sound relative comparison with the cars in the same league (2liter performance NA cars).
it's the right foot and traffic condition that determines how much she drinks.
Prius ar... now not the right time la. i read in cari.forum that a prius owner windscreen broken,
claimed insurance but local toyota sc asked the owner to wait 2 months for the windscreen to be imported from japan... how inconvenient that be!

hehehe taikor wfhan, actually i want to get an all rounder. good for the wifey to drive and vroom vroom for me once in a while. the 1G-FE i saw in mudah.my has cruise control, traction control and 2 electric seats :p but if given the choice and have budget of course 6MT all the way! kekeke are we able to get all the above options in 3S-GE BEAMS (A) as well?
....

if u found a good ont wiht 3sge motor, forget about the 1G, not to say it is no good, but like bushidofang said 'u get the best of both world'. my wife also drives my 3SGE sometimes, no complain,
in fact, she said 'very powerful & stable' and also once asked me to give her my 5AT tezza and go by myself a 6MT tezza.... * perhaps i will, and how often we get a yamaha engine in a car locally ? *

and spwn, if u are coming from SEG world, it is a wise upgrade. many same that i known have the same thoughts. and f/c of course it will guzz more compare to standard seg 1.6 with 4afe (as 4afe gives good f/c), but if your seg is with 4age, then the fc is just a bit higher only. (i owned a seg with blacktop 4age previously and have made comparison before)

 

[putochip0123]

im also come from SEG to Airtrek, but airtrek seems to be give me a vry poor FC even i drive slowly(light foot). now selling off it. and plan to get Altezza. so probably FC should be ok right??? NA compare to Trubo should be betteer. but around how many KM per tank? i mean before the fuel tank lights up....

 

[AE111_SEG]

mine is 6MT gives me 530km before the light come on...50% city 50% highway.
worst I got is 450km...hitting 8,000rpm frequently...

 

[G221]

my 6MT gives me only 400-420km, city + highway.

 

[putochip0123]

wao, seems like Altezza have a vry good FC compare to 200BHP ++ cars. with 97 should be around 30sens like this, if 95 would be around 22sens right?

 

[stepwyew]

Bro putochip0123,

Not all cars with 200bhp have bad fuel consumption bro , like mine i replace my 3s engine with 1JZ engine std stock , my fc for town driving average is about 400 km and outstation is about 460 km .



cheers

 

[putochip0123]

wao, seems like altezza would be my next car to play with. http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altezza+1jz+2+5+VVT+i+Turbo-11815232.htm

this 1 sems nice, but i dont wan turbo, can i buy it and take out the turbo?

 

[stepwyew]

Taking out the turbo and just drive normal i m not sure ......can anyone verified this?

 

[putochip0123]

cause after reading through out the forum, i found out most of the altezza NA 3G does have a vry good FC full tank maybe around 400-500KM, unless there is a funny guy altezza which is 280KM per full tank. i'm driving turbo car currently, i know how turbo car consume the petrol

 

[stepwyew]

is it????? what turbo car you driving bro?

 

[BE5RSK]

wao, seems like altezza would be my next car to play with. http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Altezza+1jz+2+5+VVT+i+Turbo-11815232.htm

this 1 sems nice, but i dont wan turbo, can i buy it and take out the turbo?

I think if you take out the turbine and goes to fully NA route, the performance would be sucks than standard RS200. The standard 1jzgte compression is too low for NA application.

My personal opinion if you want NA application, find proper NA engine. If you want turbo application, find proper turbo engine. Less headache and hassles.

 

[putochip0123]

I'm driving airtrek Turbo. My full tank is sucks where takes me 40sens/km full speed at 200km/h. Normal driving with boost also 30sens/km like this. But if drive like girl no boost is around 23sens/km. I saw some altezza have different speedometer some with rpm in the center some with speed in the center. What's the different??

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 02:02 PM ----------

wondering turbo 3G Altezza fuel consumption? terrible than NA? how terrible is it?

 

[AE111_SEG]

I'm driving airtrek Turbo. My full tank is sucks where takes me 40sens/km full speed at 200km/h. Normal driving with boost also 30sens/km like this. But if drive like girl no boost is around 23sens/km. I saw some altezza have different speedometer some with rpm in the center some with speed in the center. What's the different??

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 02:02 PM ----------

wondering turbo 3G Altezza fuel consumption? terrible than NA? how terrible is it?

If stock meter with rev in the center then it is the 6MT
from Year May 2001 to Jul 2005.