Product testing : Blue Chem fuel system clean

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I've had the worst possible thing happen to me computer-wise. A complete meltdown of my hard drive effectively losing every photo I've ever taken and collected. Almost 1Tb worth of photos. And that's not including my porn you dirty sods, those are kept in a safer location. :rofl:

Anyway, as a result of my catastrophic hard disc crash, I have to rely on photos that were taken during a product demo which I personally witnessed, so no hanky panky in the results. The products in question? Bluechems' 'Powermaxxx' range of products. Specifically the 'fuel system cleaner', I wasn't really interested in the other products mainly because it didn't really apply to me in most cases, ie-Diesel cleaners, additives, etc.

This is quite an interesting product. I know for a fact that our fuel systems aren't perfect and are prone to contamination. Biological contaminants and moisture mostly (ie-water) with a side of nasty sulfuric acid. Debris too can be found in petrol tanks, not necessarily your fuel tanks but the petrol station storage tanks - but this usually isn't a problem since stations are required to replace their tanks every 10 years. "Required" meaning it's a company policy, not a government policy so this sometimes is subjective as well to company enforcement. It's not a cheap thing to replace so I wouldn't be surprised to see 15 year old tanks still in use.

Anyway, where'd the water come from you ask? Humidity mostly. There is chances of water being introduced into the petrol during the refining stages but I would say that it's more likely humidity than the refining process.

And with water, biological contaminants such as algae will never be far behind. Sulphur is also part of the petrol formula and although the amounts is extremely low in modern fuel blends, the fact that it's there means there is a chance it will vaporize especially in the presence of water resulting in Sulphuric acid being formed. Most of this nasty stuff is burnt off due to the extreme levels of heat from combustion but it still might get re-introduced to the fuel system through the fuel lines and that pretty much shortens the lifespan of seals, metal and rubber components.


In this test demo, 2 tubes of petrol were mixed with water. As you can see in the pictures, the two don't mix with the water sinking to the bottom.


Pour in a corresponding mixture of the fuel cleaner into the water-petrol mixture. Btw, the bottle recommends one bottle per 50L of petrol (approximately) so since I usually pump in about 30L of petrol per fill, it's ok to empty the whole bottle into your fuel tank regardless. Better 'emulsification of the mixture' apparently, so I was told.


A little swirling and hey presto! The whole mixture turned into rose bandung. Great! But what does this translate to when burnt in your combustion chamber? There wasn't a photo but this mixture still does burn when lit. On real life tests though, it translated into bad fuel consumption. Very bad consumption! In my case the result was consistent on both my stock standard Myvi and my own personal test bed Wira - bad fuel consumption. But FC went back to normal after that particular mixed tank was emptied and refilled with just pure petrol. It's worth mentioning that I didn't lose any power during the bad fuel consumption results. Acceleration and response was pretty much the same, just the FC went from 13~15km/L to 8~10km/L.


The mixture stayed emulsified even after leaving it alone for a while, meaning the water and petrol and all were mixed up and will be burnt together. Good thing!


Next up, the 2nd tube of petrol was mixed with sulphuric acid. Might be worth noticing it looked kinda contaminated, can anyone help confirm that sulphuric acid is supposed to look like that out from the bottle?


Again, the petrol and the sulphuric acid doesn't mix. Swirl is gently a bit and you get this ghastly black mixture which leaves a trail of gunk. Not sure what the right chemical term is for this gunk but it was pretty thick and nasty!




Even after dumping the mixture the gunk stuck to the test tube! Is this varnish? The sticky golden coloured stuff you find coated all over your engine internals? Perhaps. Not sure though.


You know how adverts claim their petrols are able to clean your engine and all? This was what the test tube looked like even after vigorous shaking. Clean my a$$.

For the record, I was told that this test was done with several different fuels except Vpower racing. No idea why not, but I suspect it has something to do with the extremely expensive additives that are pretty damn good at cleaning your engine internals. But considering how expensive Vpower Racing is, you'd be tempted if I told you this cleaner was cheaper overall yes?


As you can see the 'varnish' slides right off upon applying the fuel cleaner. Almost no residue was seen after a few swirls of the test tube.


Pretty impressive cleaner. At this point I asked about what it would do to the fuel system and I was assured it's completely harmless to seals and metal parts. Also, most (if not all) Bluechem products are TUV certified. Amongst all the certifications you can get, the German obsession with perfection means TUV is pretty stringent and to pass you have to send your product to TUV Germany for testing on their grounds with their machines and on their terms. If you pass their testing, it's pretty safe to say the product won't explode in your face or cause your car to burst into flames, or something extravagantly nasty.


Just to prove a point, the earlier syrup bandung water-petrol mix was poured into a freshly 'stained' test petrol-sulphuric acid tube mixture. A couple of swirls later the whole test tube cleaned itself out and the mixture emulsified into a darker recipe of syrup bandung.

Pretty impressive!

What does this mean in the long run? Lesser maintenance for the fuel system and a cleaner fuel tank. That basically means cost savings in terms of the fuel system maintenance and the reassurance of knowing your car is not going to burn to a crisp because of a leaking fuel line (a certain Lamborghini comes to mind) helps too.

Who do you call? Not me! I'm not a sales rep of any sort so contact John the sales rep directly at 017-8465666 if you're interested to know more.
 

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nice,roughly how much per bottle?
taiko izso,hmm..what if compare with the other brand of system fuel system cleaner???hehe
Good question. I asked the same thing and John was prepared. He had 2 other very very reputable brands as comparison, one of which was Wurth. Wurth did a pretty decent job of emulsifying the mixture but it didn't get to everything and that separated after sometime. It didn't do as good a job as the Bluechem product.
 

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nice,roughly how much per bottle?
taiko izso,hmm..what if compare with the other brand of system fuel system cleaner???hehe
Bluechem Fuel System Cleaner is selling @ RM 45 per can.
Its efficient to treat up to 60L of fuel. :wavey:
 

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this has really caught my attention, never knew about this, tq izso for this write up.

is this any different than the fuel injector cleaner like X1R's? might wanna grab a bottle. maybe my fuel filter dont have to filter much after this.. huhu
 

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this has really caught my attention, never knew about this, tq izso for this write up.

is this any different than the fuel injector cleaner like X1R's? might wanna grab a bottle. maybe my fuel filter dont have to filter much after this.. huhu
Zuruzuruz,

In the fuel there is only 2 contamination water & sulfur.
You can actually DIY the demo by using water + petrol + your preferred fuel cleaner or injector cleaner in a plastic bottle. If it emulsify it work.If it doesn't, you be the judge :tongue:

For club member, i will try to arrange a life DEMONSTRATION !!!

All Bluechem products doesn't contains simple alcohol. It won't damage all aluminium or rubber parts.:love::love:

Thanks for the question
 

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where can i find this producT? most major car accessories outlet?
szekeiemme,

Bluechem is ONLY available in Professional Workshops through out Malaysia. Its not available in accessories or sparepart shops.
For further inquiry, please PM me.
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I'm a Ford Focus TDCI user.
Is it suitable for Common Rail diesel cars?
our diesel sucks...

Thanks to Ah Jib
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i have a questions, where would all these waste goes to?
 

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I've tried using bluechem oil system cleaner and fuel system cleaner on my myvi and e46.. Before I was introduced to bluechem, I wasnt fond off flushing engine oil before an oil change.. But now after positive results, im sticking to this line of products... Been waiting for the oil treatment...
 

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I hope not getting stuck at the fuel injectors. :rofl:

All the gum & varnishes is dissolved in the fueling system.
No worried that it will clog your injectors.

You will be impressed after the live demo..

Car club is welcome..
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All the gum & varnishes is dissolved in the fueling system.
No worried that it will clog your injectors.

You will be impressed after the live demo..

Car club is welcome..
:beer:
you mention its either contamination or water. fuel injectors are part of the fueling system.

water is not an issue since it will just be converted to steam in the combustion chamber and comes out from the exhaust. considering it mixes with the fuel I doubt it'll cause rust for the internals of the fuel injector.

if its contamination - something solid, how can it be dissolved? for example, silica.
 

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I hope not getting stuck at the fuel injectors. :rofl:
nah. It completely emulsifies anyway.

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you mention its either contamination or water. fuel injectors are part of the fueling system.

water is not an issue since it will just be converted to steam in the combustion chamber and comes out from the exhaust. considering it mixes with the fuel I doubt it'll cause rust for the internals of the fuel injector.

if its contamination - something solid, how can it be dissolved? for example, silica.
I can only assume you're not talking about sand in the combustion engine but in the fuel tank. Debris like sand won't dissolve in petrol I think so it probably will clog your injectors eventually. However the fuel system is relatively closed, I'd be curious to know how on earth sand got in in the first place.
 

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with the contamination fuel surely poor u get poor fc.this product will minus octane in fuel?mix with v-power perhaps?
 

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nah. It completely emulsifies anyway.

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I can only assume you're not talking about sand in the combustion engine but in the fuel tank. Debris like sand won't dissolve in petrol I think so it probably will clog your injectors eventually. However the fuel system is relatively closed, I'd be curious to know how on earth sand got in in the first place.
How on earth? Well earth is composed of sand and dirt anyway.
http://www.i-car.com/pdf/advantage/online/2004/042604.pdf
http://www.carterfueldelivery.com/fuelpumps/_pdfs/support/TEC1622.pdf

its well documented, not rocket science :rolleyes:
 

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Thanks Ixeo for the valuable information for all ZTH member.
You are totally right about the contaminations such as moisture in the fuel especially diesel because diesel originally contains moisture. Moisture act as food for micro organism. And they breed in the diesel. It causes blockage in the fuel system. The worst nightmare for Compress Ignite Turbo Charger Engines. Prevention is better than cure. :nurse:
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In Malaysia, so far we didn't recorded any silica contaminations in our fuel system.
This silica contaminated fuel normally documented in places with lots of sands and winds like desert.
Mainly cause by mishandle during the shipping process. Fuel containers is exposed to winds and sands. So sands ended up in the fuel delivery tank, to your fuel station than to your petrol tank.
Countries that normally face this kind of contaminations is like Australia, Sahara and Arab.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


How on earth? Well earth is composed of sand and dirt anyway.
http://www.i-car.com/pdf/advantage/online/2004/042604.pdf
http://www.carterfueldelivery.com/fuelpumps/_pdfs/support/TEC1622.pdf

its well documented, not rocket science :rolleyes:


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Video about how it works in the fuel system

Powermaxx Fuel System Cleaning & Diesel System Cleaning (en) - YouTube
 

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Pay attention to petrol stations. The petroleum delivery trucks connects their hoses to the pipes that are near the ground and stores the fuel underground, not all petrol stations are squeaky clean like clean rooms. Can't be helped if contaminants do get it. Most petrol stations I see do have loose sand/earth on the ground.

Physical debris such as silica would probably sit on the bottom of the tank, but imagine if the delivery truck is delivery fuel to the underground tanks, gushing the sediments from the bottom while you're pumping fuel at the same.

Silica is only one example that I can think of, I don't know what other contaminants are there, I'm not an expert. I just know I don't want this stuff going to my fuel injectors. Looking at the simple demo, I do believe it works, and displacing water is good, my question is simply what happens to the contaminants such as silica? Telling me low chance of occurring doesn't explain what happens to it when mixed with fuel and this fuel system cleaner.
 

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Ixeo,

The most common contamination in the fuel system is moisture, gum & varnishes.
Bluechem Fuel System Cleaner can only help to removes moisture and dissolves gum & varnishes in the fuel system.

Pay attention to petrol stations. The petroleum delivery trucks connects their hoses to the pipes that are near the ground and stores the fuel underground, not all petrol stations are squeaky clean like clean rooms. Can't be helped if contaminants do get it. Most petrol stations I see do have loose sand/earth on the ground.

Physical debris such as silica would probably sit on the bottom of the tank, but imagine if the delivery truck is delivery fuel to the underground tanks, gushing the sediments from the bottom while you're pumping fuel at the same.

Silica is only one example that I can think of, I don't know what other contaminants are there, I'm not an expert. I just know I don't want this stuff going to my fuel injectors. Looking at the simple demo, I do believe it works, and displacing water is good, my question is simply what happens to the contaminants such as silica? Telling me low chance of occurring doesn't explain what happens to it when mixed with fuel and this fuel system cleaner.
 

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yesterday juz pour it in n fuel up wif vpower.this mornin drove the car to work and the acceleration really affected badly like no power wif vpower. good sign i guess?
 

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Hi Ixeo. You are quite right about contaminants in petrol stations. For me, it's best I go to another station to pump if I happen to see a TANKER filling em up. That is the worst time to fill up as it pours in to the station, swirling and mixing, the contaminants which is at the floor is distrubed. After the TANKER leaves, the contaminants will eventually settles back to the bottom.

Which is why, it is NEVER a good idea to always drive your car till FUEL LIGHT EMPTY comes on. KENAPE?, our fuel tank is filled with contiminants too! But never fear! Just change the fuel filter, like maybe every 25km looo.
 

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What are the effect of this cleaner to the fuel filter?, will the fuel filter be clogged afterwards and needing replacement?
 

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Pay attention to petrol stations. The petroleum delivery trucks connects their hoses to the pipes that are near the ground and stores the fuel underground, not all petrol stations are squeaky clean like clean rooms. Can't be helped if contaminants do get it. Most petrol stations I see do have loose sand/earth on the ground.

Physical debris such as silica would probably sit on the bottom of the tank, but imagine if the delivery truck is delivery fuel to the underground tanks, gushing the sediments from the bottom while you're pumping fuel at the same.

Silica is only one example that I can think of, I don't know what other contaminants are there, I'm not an expert. I just know I don't want this stuff going to my fuel injectors. Looking at the simple demo, I do believe it works, and displacing water is good, my question is simply what happens to the contaminants such as silica? Telling me low chance of occurring doesn't explain what happens to it when mixed with fuel and this fuel system cleaner.
I've been thinking about this. I think sediments and such like this will get caught in the fuel filter. Having changed my filter recently and seeing how grainy it was lead to this conclusion. Let's discuss nonetheless.


What are the effect of this cleaner to the fuel filter?, will the fuel filter be clogged afterwards and needing replacement?
Fuel filters will need to be changed no matter what. The emulsification of the water, petrol and all - I think it'll pass the filter easily and just get burnt in the combustion chamber.

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yesterday juz pour it in n fuel up wif vpower.this mornin drove the car to work and the acceleration really affected badly like no power wif vpower. good sign i guess?
That kinda sounds like my Myvi. The power wasn't really that much affected but my FC was bad. I think you should wait for this tank to clear off and try a new fill then see how. Btw, which Vpower is this? VPower green or VPower Racing?
 

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I've been thinking about this. I think sediments and such like this will get caught in the fuel filter. Having changed my filter recently and seeing how grainy it was lead to this conclusion. Let's discuss nonetheless.


Fuel filters will need to be changed no matter what. The emulsification of the water, petrol and all - I think it'll pass the filter easily and just get burnt in the combustion chamber.

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That kinda sounds like my Myvi. The power wasn't really that much affected but my FC was bad. I think you should wait for this tank to clear off and try a new fill then see how. Btw, which Vpower is this? VPower green or VPower Racing?
Which leads me to wonder.. if your fuel filter gets dirtier, wouldn't it filter better -- and kill flow at the same time.

All filters have a micron rating.. anything below that rating won't get caught. That being said, I doubt it would kill the fuel injectors if its that minuscule.
 

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Which leads me to wonder.. if your fuel filter gets dirtier, wouldn't it filter better -- and kill flow at the same time.

All filters have a micron rating.. anything below that rating won't get caught. That being said, I doubt it would kill the fuel injectors if its that minuscule.
Not quite true. Microns is how far the injectors work at so enough of these micro particles will still clog the injectors.

Btw, whats the service interval for fuel filters again? If I'm not mistaken it's every 20k km. Might be worthwhile keeping it up to that level if you constantly flush with Bluechem or whatever fuel flush.
 

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Deng3882,

By using Bluechem Oil System Cleaner and Fuel System Cleaner, you will optimize your cars compression ratio. This leads to a smoother run on the engine and optimize your cars performance.:driver:


Any improvement in performance.??.
 

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i am using it now. So far i dun feel any performance drop... maybe my FC has drop... waiting for my next fuel up
 

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how about the Bluechem Nano Engine Super Protection? How does it work? Izit like normal engine oil treatment?
 

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Bluechem Oil System Cleaner.pour it in wait waited 15min.the drained dirty engine oil very watery.izit doing its job by diluting the gump?
 

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Bluechem Oil System Cleaner.pour it in wait waited 15min.the drained dirty engine oil very watery.izit doing its job by diluting the gump?
I'm actually doing a review on this product now. Will have a writeup soon enough.
 

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By using Bluechem Oil System Cleaner and Fuel System Cleaner, you will optimize your cars compression ratio. This leads to a smoother run on the engine and optimize your cars performance.:driver:
what does dat means btw? it doesnt make any sense to me, i dont see any relation between any engine's cr and water disposal, please shed sum light on the subject matter. thanx
 

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Hi Xtremeleo,

what does dat means btw? it doesnt make any sense to me, i dont see any relation between any engine's cr and water disposal, please shed sum light on the subject matter. thanx
What i mentioned as above is by applying both of my service concept to your car maintenance
interval, Bluechem "Oil System Cleaner" + "Fuel System Cleaner".
Oil System Cleaner helps to cleans the operational contamination in the combustion engine. Please refer to the video below :

Powermaxx Oil System Cleaning (en) - YouTube

Bluechem's Oil System Cleaner and Fuel System Cleaner is testen and proven by TUV for its effectiveness.


what does dat means btw? it doesnt make any sense to me, i dont see any relation between any engine's cr and water disposal, please shed sum light on the subject matter. thanx
 

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Yesterday i was in Honda Service Center doing my service for my babe.... those advisor recommend me about red green package. i was wonder what the heck was that.. one red and green bottle.. i forgot what is the green bottle called cause i didn't keep the bottles after my service... they mention this product can restore my engine performance... well, i do feel lighter indeed (Honda Accord v6)...

super fei lo.... any where else i can buy these product other than Honda dealer? Does these product available on web? cause i want to buy a few for my brother's nissan navara.... can the red bottle apply to diesel car? (as mentioned by honda dealers, green is for engine, red is for tank) Does blue cem got something like performance engine oil or other chemical to make my honda perform better?