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vr2turbo

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Yes I'm looking for 215/45/17 size. What is the rating of PP2 in relation to PS3? Cannot afford if price is higher than PS3.
bro vr2turbo, woow Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 got very good rating from links you provided. Just not sure its overall performance over the treadwear lifespan.
PS3 was suppose to be PP2 replacement, so you can forget PP2 which is older technology.

Yup, but S1 Evo2 still have not seen here......and may be more expensive then S1 Evo...:banghead:

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Thanks for the recommendation, F1 D5 is very attractive. It's in my list.
Your size very common have many to choose from
Conti CSC5
Continental MaxContact MC5
GT Radial Champiro HPY
Goodyear F1 Asy 2
Goodyear F1 Directional 5
Yokohama Advan DB v551
Yokohama Adrive R1
Michelin PS3
Toyo T1R
Toyo T1-Sports
Nexen N8000
Archilles ATR Aports
etc. etc.....only confused now barbecue too many.....:biggrin:
 

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PP2 still in production? Why not look at the GY F1 D5? prices were reasonable in comparison to Michelin offerings.

no pics cause everyday raining, zzz.
Yes, PP2 still in production but only comes in 4 Sizes. :listen:

165/55/R14

195/60/R15

215/55/R16
215/60/R16

205/40/R17
245/45/R17
 

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Oh! good for 165/55R14 and 195/60R15 users.....
195/60/15 not many performance tyres as well? What car run on that usually? Vios? City?
 

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195/60/15 not many performance tyres as well? What car run on that usually? Vios? City?
Not many? almost none nowadays, all start from 195/55.
195/60 got many looking for performance. Persona, Waja, Avanza also (I think) etc....

My friend's Vios is on 195/55, new CT very special size Low spec 185/60R15 and high spec 185/55R16
 

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Thanks for the recommendation, F1 D5 is very attractive. It's in my list.
PP2 still in production? Why not look at the GY F1 D5? prices were reasonable in comparison to Michelin offerings.

no pics cause everyday raining, zzz.
The D5 is a good tire except for the noise. If you're ok with a bit noisy tires then D5 is a good option.
 

vr2turbo

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but for 195/60/15, not many shops will stock and sure to cost a bomb
That is the price to pay if want something better in performance not available in that size. Even bro. SF paid more for it in 165/55R14 size.....
 

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but for 195/60/15, not many shops will stock and sure to cost a bomb
That is the price to pay if want something better in performance not available in that size. Even bro. SF paid more for it in 165/55R14 size.....
I would say is worth paying bro cfa :biggrin: cuz like bro vr2turbo said, is not easy
to find performance tyres for sizes like those anymore...

165/55/14 for Kelisa, not many choices in terms of tyres already but then wat's more to say
performance ones...

Price of my tyre size per piece for PP2 can get any 15 - 16" tyres in other brands already.

Even cost more than my Saga BLM 185/60/14 Michelin XM2 :rofl:
 
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I would say is worth paying bro cfa :biggrin: cuz like bro vr2turbo said, is not easy
to find performance tyres for sizes like those anymore...

165/55/14 for Kelisa, not many choices in terms of tyres already but then wat's more to say
performance ones...

Price of my tyre size per piece for PP2 can get any 15 - 16" tyres in other brands already.

Even cost more than my Saga BLM 185/60/15 Michelin XM2 :rofl:
Saga 14", right?
 

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I thought you testing my eye sight or whether I do read your post or not?.....hahahahahaha:biggrin:

If 15" suits you Banyak Lampu Model, time for change loh!.....:driver:
Mine no banyak lampu. Mine Banyak Laju Model. :biggrin:
Change 15" have to change rims la...wait when want change tyres 1st, since now baru change
tyres. Maybe go for those Rims+Tyre package...
 

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unfortunately, I already changed from 195/60/15 to 195/55/15.

Asked my regular Michelin Shop b4, for 195/60/15, he only have XM and PLC

So, i changed to 195/55. Maybe next change, I can consider PP2 again.
 

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Mine no banyak lampu. Mine Banyak Laju Model. :biggrin:
Change 15" have to change rims la...wait when want change tyres 1st, since now baru change
tyres. Maybe go for those Rims+Tyre package...
15" rims should be be too expensive. RM800 unless you go for those expensive brands.
Wait until these XM2 wear off before changing....:driver:

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unfortunately, I already changed from 195/60/15 to 195/55/15.

Asked my regular Michelin Shop b4, for 195/60/15, he only have XM and PLC

So, i changed to 195/55. Maybe next change, I can consider PP2 again.
They probably would not stock them as old model. Maybe got customer only order....
 

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15" rims should be be too expensive. RM800 unless you go for those expensive brands.
Wait until these XM2 wear off before changing....:driver:

They probably would not stock them as old model. Maybe got customer only order....
Ya, will look around, rims wise, I don't really go for brands, I go for a good quality and as long
it looks good on my car will do. No need Enkei or BBS kind of brand. Can't afford yet :smile:

ENEOS got such packages but so far no rims interest me except the 17" rims with 5 lugs.
Will just stick with 4 lugs since conversion not cheap..:banghead:
 

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Ya, will look around, rims wise, I don't really go for brands, I go for a good quality and as long
it looks good on my car will do. No need Enkei or BBS kind of brand. Can't afford yet :smile:

ENEOS got such packages but so far no rims interest me except the 17" rims with 5 lugs.
Will just stick with 4 lugs since conversion not cheap..:banghead:
Enkei not expensive now as they have Enkei Malaysia already. Other then JRD which most shy away from there are many others (brands)
 

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Enkei not expensive now as they have Enkei Malaysia already. Other then JRD which most shy away from there are many others (brands)
Most rims sold at workshop are Taiwan brands right? or just replica..
 

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Depends on the brands. Avanti also okay....using one set for many years already.....:driver:

Here is a pic....
5 Lugs? Nice and Unique..

Now looking for Kelisa Ori Rims for a friend, or just get her a Myvi Standard Rims..
Both below RM400.

But how to check if got bengkok or not? can't check through eyes unless get it spin on the
balancing machine...
 

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