Bridgestone RE003 vs Michelin Pilot Sport 3 (PS3)

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My Pilot Sport 3s are due for replacement. This is my second set of them. So far I'm really satisfied, they're very good in cornering feel, traction and ride comfort except for the soft sidewalls, which makes the car rolls a bit more than usual in corners. The RE003 is relatively new and there are not many reviews yet. But from what I've read they're just as good except for the lower wet traction. Plus, the sidewall is slightly stiffer, which is good. I could not decide whether to stick to PS3 or change to the slightly cheaper RE003. So, any of you are using RE003? How does it perform/feel?
 

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From feedback is like what you have mentioned. Whether which is better depends on your priorities. If more into cornering the RE-003 will be better but going towards comfort then PS3. RE-003 wet traction lower buy dry can be equal or better. Most use RE-003 probably because of stiffer sidewall if they touge more, anyway in the wet should be driving slower....
 

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There are a few feedback and reviews though that claim the RE003 is also equally good in the wet if not better, at least when new. Then there are some who said it's rubbish in the wet once already worn down to 50-60% even though still got pretty deep treads left. So not sure there, I wanted to try it but when I was looking for replacement for my size, all out of stock here in KL.

Another option is the Hankook V12 Evo 2 which can be even cheaper, but bro Izso said it's also soft sidewall.
 

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There are a few feedback and reviews though that claim the RE003 is also equally good in the wet if not better, at least when new. Then there are some who said it's rubbish in the wet once already worn down to 50-60% even though still got pretty deep treads left. So not sure there, I wanted to try it but when I was looking for replacement for my size, all out of stock here in KL.

Another option is the Hankook V12 Evo 2 which can be even cheaper, but bro Izso said it's also soft sidewall.
50 to 60% worn most tyre not very good in wet already.

For cornering Asy will be better, more rubber on outer side then directional......
 

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50 to 60% worn most tyre not very good in wet already.

For cornering Asy will be better, more rubber on outer side then directional......
I meant usage 40-50% so still 50-60% treads left which is still pretty deep leh. I could still easily 100-120kph in the wet in some sweepers using my F1-D5 when the treads were at those level.

Yah, unless the directional tire has also big blocks on both sides of the outer treads. My F1-D5 not too shabby last time, at least for my mediocre level of driving lor. But now practically all really top performance street tires are asymmetric, some even using different compounds between inner and outer side. Only semi slicks are still directional ya.
 

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This is a good topic. I was heard RE003 is better than T1R, did not knew the dry grip is on par as PS3.
 

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I think I might get the RE003 because PS3 is about RM40 more expensive per piece. After 2 sets, the PS3 seem a bit boring... :sleep:
 

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I meant usage 40-50% so still 50-60% treads left which is still pretty deep leh. I could still easily 100-120kph in the wet in some sweepers using my F1-D5 when the treads were at those level.

Yah, unless the directional tire has also big blocks on both sides of the outer treads. My F1-D5 not too shabby last time, at least for my mediocre level of driving lor. But now practically all really top performance street tires are asymmetric, some even using different compounds between inner and outer side. Only semi slicks are still directional ya.
Most of the tyres I used after 50% aquaplane more easily and that is because 50% less depth in the grooves to channel away water.
Semi slick even though directional have big shoulder block. Extreme AD-08R also.....lol
 

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So uncle vr2turbo, if you were me, which tyre would you choose? The roads I travel are 50% rough kampung roads with lots of corners and potholes & 50% highway.
 

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So uncle vr2turbo, if you were me, which tyre would you choose? The roads I travel are 50% rough kampung roads with lots of corners and potholes & 50% highway.
If wet not much concern give RE-003 a try, since cheaper also. I am like you after 2 sets sure itchy to try something else.....lol:biggrin:
 

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If wet not much concern give RE-003 a try, since cheaper also. I am like you after 2 sets sure itchy to try something else.....lol:biggrin:
I've never even use the same tires twice! Always change different when comes the time to replace it. :biggrin:
 

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My Pilot Sport 3s are due for replacement. This is my second set of them. So far I'm really satisfied, they're very good in cornering feel, traction and ride comfort except for the soft sidewalls, which makes the car rolls a bit more than usual in corners. The RE003 is relatively new and there are not many reviews yet. But from what I've read they're just as good except for the lower wet traction. Plus, the sidewall is slightly stiffer, which is good. I could not decide whether to stick to PS3 or change to the slightly cheaper RE003. So, any of you are using RE003? How does it perform/feel?
I used PS3, GYF1D5 and RE003 now.

While it is said that PS3 has better wet traction versus RE003 AND GYF1D5, that doesn't mean the RE003 is bad. What it means that if you go through a standing water - not exactly a deep puddle, but a damp patch, the RE003 will be slightly uncomposed. Aquaplane performance, PS3 is tops.

Dry tracking, that's where RE003 shines. It feels sharper on inputs, versus the PS3. I'm not sure why, but RE003 seems to give me more confidence. I've never broke traction with any of the 3 tires even powering out of the corner @ full boost, FWD.

Wet cornering, I've never really pushed it that far, cause I drive on the streets, don't be an idiot. But I have no issues with the RE003.

As for stiffer sidewall.. I'm pretty happy with the NVH of the RE003. If anything, PS3 does not wear gracefully. As it wears down, it does get noisier.

Out of the 3, I am happy to use RE003 because its the cheapest. And the performance is great. If the price difference between RE003 and PS3 is small, I'd put them on my father/mother/brother/imaginary girlfriend's car. But for myself, I'd still go with the RE003 if its cheaper. If the price is the same, I'd go for the PS3 for the slight benefit in the wet.

GYF1D5.. Dry doesn't feel so sharp, wavers a bit, wet is ok, not too bad. I'd say for Dry its slightly behind RE003, wet is the same if not better. PS3 is definitely better than both in the wet, dry its better than the GYF1D5, RE003 is better in the dry.
 

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I used PS3, GYF1D5 and RE003 now.

While it is said that PS3 has better wet traction versus RE003 AND GYF1D5, that doesn't mean the RE003 is bad. What it means that if you go through a standing water - not exactly a deep puddle, but a damp patch, the RE003 will be slightly uncomposed. Aquaplane performance, PS3 is tops.

Dry tracking, that's where RE003 shines. It feels sharper on inputs, versus the PS3. I'm not sure why, but RE003 seems to give me more confidence. I've never broke traction with any of the 3 tires even powering out of the corner @ full boost, FWD.

Wet cornering, I've never really pushed it that far, cause I drive on the streets, don't be an idiot. But I have no issues with the RE003.

As for stiffer sidewall.. I'm pretty happy with the NVH of the RE003. If anything, PS3 does not wear gracefully. As it wears down, it does get noisier.

Out of the 3, I am happy to use RE003 because its the cheapest. And the performance is great. If the price difference between RE003 and PS3 is small, I'd put them on my father/mother/brother/imaginary girlfriend's car. But for myself, I'd still go with the RE003 if its cheaper. If the price is the same, I'd go for the PS3 for the slight benefit in the wet.

GYF1D5.. Dry doesn't feel so sharp, wavers a bit, wet is ok, not too bad. I'd say for Dry its slightly behind RE003, wet is the same if not better. PS3 is definitely better than both in the wet, dry its better than the GYF1D5, RE003 is better in the dry.
PS3 is well known for its excellent aquaplaning resistance.

At current pricing RE003 still cheaper than F1D5? I have suspicion that the RE003 prices already going up and F1D5 can be the cheapest now.

How is the wear of the RE003 btw? Does it wear out faster than the other 2?
 

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I've never even use the same tires twice! Always change different when comes the time to replace it. :biggrin:
Past few years have been like that, using different brands. Previously the most sets I use was the Falken ST115 because got cheap offer from tyre shop....:driver:
 

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I used PS3, GYF1D5 and RE003 now.

While it is said that PS3 has better wet traction versus RE003 AND GYF1D5, that doesn't mean the RE003 is bad. What it means that if you go through a standing water - not exactly a deep puddle, but a damp patch, the RE003 will be slightly uncomposed. Aquaplane performance, PS3 is tops.

Dry tracking, that's where RE003 shines. It feels sharper on inputs, versus the PS3. I'm not sure why, but RE003 seems to give me more confidence. I've never broke traction with any of the 3 tires even powering out of the corner @ full boost, FWD.

Wet cornering, I've never really pushed it that far, cause I drive on the streets, don't be an idiot. But I have no issues with the RE003.

As for stiffer sidewall.. I'm pretty happy with the NVH of the RE003. If anything, PS3 does not wear gracefully. As it wears down, it does get noisier.

Out of the 3, I am happy to use RE003 because its the cheapest. And the performance is great. If the price difference between RE003 and PS3 is small, I'd put them on my father/mother/brother/imaginary girlfriend's car. But for myself, I'd still go with the RE003 if its cheaper. If the price is the same, I'd go for the PS3 for the slight benefit in the wet.

GYF1D5.. Dry doesn't feel so sharp, wavers a bit, wet is ok, not too bad. I'd say for Dry its slightly behind RE003, wet is the same if not better. PS3 is definitely better than both in the wet, dry its better than the GYF1D5, RE003 is better in the dry.
Very good feedback from bro. ixeo dy......:adore:

In dry I also heard RE-003 very good, that why called Adrenalin.....:driver:
 

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Thanks for the reviews and recommendation. I bought the RE003s (4 tyres) just now at RM210/piece, including balancing and alignment. One shop quote the PS3 for RM280/piece, which I think is ridiculous. At the moment I'm very happy with these tyres. Excellent ride comfort and noise level (which could be due to being new?). One noticeable difference compared to PS3 is the steering feels lighter (which again could be due to being new). This however doesn't affect steering precision. Sidewall stiffness also feel marginally stiffer. I reserve my comment on wet performance. I has been a long time without rain here.
 

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Thanks for the reviews and recommendation. I bought the RE003s (4 tyres) just now at RM210/piece, including balancing and alignment. One shop quote the PS3 for RM280/piece, which I think is ridiculous. At the moment I'm very happy with these tyres. Excellent ride comfort and noise level (which could be due to being new?). One noticeable difference compared to PS3 is the steering feels lighter (which again could be due to being new). This however doesn't affect steering precision. Sidewall stiffness also feel marginally stiffer. I reserve my comment on wet performance. I has been a long time without rain here.
That's cheap. I got mine for RM212 a piece (with GST) including balancing only but trade in old tires. The shop was doing a promotion. I think the price was ok for a 195/55r15. :burnout:
 

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Thanks for the reviews and recommendation. I bought the RE003s (4 tyres) just now at RM210/piece, including balancing and alignment. One shop quote the PS3 for RM280/piece, which I think is ridiculous. At the moment I'm very happy with these tyres. Excellent ride comfort and noise level (which could be due to being new?). One noticeable difference compared to PS3 is the steering feels lighter (which again could be due to being new). This however doesn't affect steering precision. Sidewall stiffness also feel marginally stiffer. I reserve my comment on wet performance. I has been a long time without rain here.
Wow! 70 price difference, no need think already sure take RE-003.....hahhahhaha

195/55R15 PS3 when launch was around RM230-240 only, then as sales went up price slowly grew too. The higher I heard ws around RM300. Then somewhere 3rd quarter 2015, it went back down to around 240 and recently gone back up again.....:banghead:
 

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Wow! 70 price difference, no need think already sure take RE-003.....hahhahhaha

195/55R15 PS3 when launch was around RM230-240 only, then as sales went up price slowly grew too. The higher I heard ws around RM300. Then somewhere 3rd quarter 2015, it went back down to around 240 and recently gone back up again.....:banghead:
Mmg no brainer, RE003 it is :biggrin:
 

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PS3 is well known for its excellent aquaplaning resistance.

At current pricing RE003 still cheaper than F1D5? I have suspicion that the RE003 prices already going up and F1D5 can be the cheapest now.

How is the wear of the RE003 btw? Does it wear out faster than the other 2?
I think prices went up recently. I paid RM170/pc for 195/50 R15. No brainer man at that price. Bought 2 donuts to replace a GYF1D5 that got sidewall damage. This was last year, I think around September/October.

Considering tires are still so new, wear is still okay. No compound peeling off like PS3 so far.

Thanks for the reviews and recommendation. I bought the RE003s (4 tyres) just now at RM210/piece, including balancing and alignment. One shop quote the PS3 for RM280/piece, which I think is ridiculous. At the moment I'm very happy with these tyres. Excellent ride comfort and noise level (which could be due to being new?). One noticeable difference compared to PS3 is the steering feels lighter (which again could be due to being new). This however doesn't affect steering precision. Sidewall stiffness also feel marginally stiffer. I reserve my comment on wet performance. I has been a long time without rain here.
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That's cheap. I got mine for RM212 a piece (with GST) including balancing only but trade in old tires. The shop was doing a promotion. I think the price was ok for a 195/55r15. :burnout:
Looks like prices went up.
 

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Looks like prices went up.
Yup prices were up for quite some time already. sanekit's one at RM212 is with GST hence the extra RM12. So price per donut around RM200, it is around there now. Some places selling even more expensive, also due to its availability. Last i heard they brought in very limited units only.
 

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The shop i went was doing a promo. RM200 trade in old tyres. I changed all 4. My previous tyres, both rear all pretty worn out except for the front. So, untung a bit laa..


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The shop i went was doing a promo. RM200 trade in old tyres. I changed all 4. My previous tyres, both rear all pretty worn out except for the front. So, untung a bit laa..


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What the hell? That's a damn good trade in price
 

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The shop i went was doing a promo. RM200 trade in old tyres. I changed all 4. My previous tyres, both rear all pretty worn out except for the front. So, untung a bit laa..


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Should be about same price as g4i8y0t since 200 with trade in against 210 without trade in
 

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I think prices went up recently. I paid RM170/pc for 195/50 R15. No brainer man at that price. Bought 2 donuts to replace a GYF1D5 that got sidewall damage. This was last year, I think around September/October.

Considering tires are still so new, wear is still okay. No compound peeling off like PS3 so far.
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Wah that's a good buy indeed, PS3 at least rm220-240, F1D5 around rm190-200 that time I think.
Hmm I was actually looking for it around Oct also but unfortunately for my size all finished already.

Peeling or chipping may have to wait a little longer I suppose, might not show yet for now. My CSC5 & CSC3 also still smooth for now.
 

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Wah that's a good buy indeed, PS3 at least rm220-240, F1D5 around rm190-200 that time I think.
Hmm I was actually looking for it around Oct also but unfortunately for my size all finished already.

Peeling or chipping may have to wait a little longer I suppose, might not show yet for now. My CSC5 & CSC3 also still smooth for now.
Yup.. damn good buy. That's why hands down, no questions asked. RE003.

195/50 is slightly cheaper then 195/55
The place I got it from, offered for the same price back then. Of course, stock was limited, I had to call in advance and book. I can only guess that stock shortage is a real problem now.
 

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I used PS3, GYF1D5 and RE003 now.

While it is said that PS3 has better wet traction versus RE003 AND GYF1D5, that doesn't mean the RE003 is bad. What it means that if you go through a standing water - not exactly a deep puddle, but a damp patch, the RE003 will be slightly uncomposed. Aquaplane performance, PS3 is tops.

Dry tracking, that's where RE003 shines. It feels sharper on inputs, versus the PS3. I'm not sure why, but RE003 seems to give me more confidence. I've never broke traction with any of the 3 tires even powering out of the corner @ full boost, FWD.

Wet cornering, I've never really pushed it that far, cause I drive on the streets, don't be an idiot. But I have no issues with the RE003.

As for stiffer sidewall.. I'm pretty happy with the NVH of the RE003. If anything, PS3 does not wear gracefully. As it wears down, it does get noisier.

Out of the 3, I am happy to use RE003 because its the cheapest. And the performance is great. If the price difference between RE003 and PS3 is small, I'd put them on my father/mother/brother/imaginary girlfriend's car. But for myself, I'd still go with the RE003 if its cheaper. If the price is the same, I'd go for the PS3 for the slight benefit in the wet.

GYF1D5.. Dry doesn't feel so sharp, wavers a bit, wet is ok, not too bad. I'd say for Dry its slightly behind RE003, wet is the same if not better. PS3 is definitely better than both in the wet, dry its better than the GYF1D5, RE003 is better in the dry.

Good findings there Ixeo, thanks for shedding light onto both choices
 

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I've used GY RS Sport which treadwear sucked. Then GYF1A2 which I liked its wet performance. Then RE050A which was a good all rounder until about 70% which then grip was really non-existant. Now using AD08R which has awesome dry grip. Still the same awful wet grip as in the older AD07 though.

Might wanna try the RE003 next tyre change if the price is cheaper than the AD08R.

Worst tyre ever for me was the Sime Tyre FTZ. Literally no grip and only lasted me merely 4 mths of daily driving. Lol.
 

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I've used GY RS Sport which treadwear sucked. Then GYF1A2 which I liked its wet performance. Then RE050A which was a good all rounder until about 70% which then grip was really non-existant. Now using AD08R which has awesome dry grip. Still the same awful wet grip as in the older AD07 though.

Might wanna try the RE003 next tyre change if the price is cheaper than the AD08R.

Worst tyre ever for me was the Sime Tyre FTZ. Literally no grip and only lasted me merely 4 mths of daily driving. Lol.
You jump from extreme tyres back to Max performance then back to extreme again. Extreme are outright dry tyres that is why in the wet is poor, however Max performance tyres are balance of dry and wet. Good in dry but not the level of extreme tyres dry. Since my ride is for daily I normally stick to Max tyres for my priorities.

Sime FTZ? or do you mean Silverstone FTZ Evo 8. Even though class as their highest performer is way below others. Probably put them in HP category only. Even their newer Atlantis V7 is not that good.
 

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195/55R15 very common size. You want RE-003 only
read that PS3 has alot of raved review n i believe its no doubt a good choice. RE-003 first choice, im also keen to look into brands like Hankook V12 and Maxxis Victra. 205/50R15 is still under consideration, don think gonna be practical driving in town :rolleyes:
 
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read that PS3 has alot of raved review n i believe its no doubt a good choice. RE-003 first choice, im also keen to look into brands like Hankook V12 and Maxxis Victra. 205/50R15 is still under consideration, don think gonna be practical driving in town :rolleyes:
Tires get better as new designs get introduced. Don't bother with the Hankook V12 already, its replacement has already been introduced.

RE003 is no brainer for the price really. Unless you travel high speeds on north south highway, then maybe worthwhile going for the PS3 for stability in the wet.
 

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I'm currently using PS3. I bought it before RE003 came out and my god I felt like whaaaaaaaa why RE003 can be so darn cheaaappp? I have heard of many good reviews on RE003 now, at least when it is new.

To me PS3 is quite great. It lives up to its name of a great all-rounder tyre for no brainer. It is comfy and quiet too. In dry it is considered good and grippy. Although it is not as responsive as my previous set of tyre, it gives me confidence, comfort, and sometimes, a little unpredictable fun. I was able to cruise at my usual speed using my old set of tyre at old karak road on PS3 so that's considered quite good to me. In wet, I've not encountered any aquaplaning before. Once I gone through a puddle of water at 70kmh and no aquaplaning. Didn't dare to try any faster though

Despite that, I am still eager to try RE003. It is supposed to have better dry grip and hell a lot cheaper. Im gonna get it next! So any taker for second hand PS3 with 95% thread? :biggrin:
 

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read that PS3 has alot of raved review n i believe its no doubt a good choice. RE-003 first choice, im also keen to look into brands like Hankook V12 and Maxxis Victra. 205/50R15 is still under consideration, don think gonna be practical driving in town :rolleyes:
For 195/55R15, the UHP tyre model are PS3, RE-003, GY F1-D5 and Hankook V12Evo2. Conti CSC range GY Asy2 etc., don't have in 15".
F1-D5 is expensive, next is PS3 at around RM250 also. The other 2 are closer to RM200. For the price V12Evo2 and RE-003 likely are better choices unless you have budget for PS3 then go ahead with it....:driver: