Mazda Cosmo or Mazda Luce

[SiGNAL]

Later he poison u put 13B or 20B to ur 86. That time he will tune for you one. right nos sifu? heheheh

 

[pogo]

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Hi mike...


Waaa... rotary Sifoo's conference aaa..
Salute!... hehehehehe...

~take k mike..

 

[Phantom_Scarab]

:huh: aiyoh....rotary sifoos chitchat....dun play2....... :D

 

[SiGNAL]

hahaha the only sifus here are NOS sifu.... i'm just a small potato.

How are you guys' project going?? sorry hijack the thread.... :P

 

[pogo]

Originally posted by SiGNAL@Aug 31 2004, 02:22 PM
hahaha the only sifus here are NOS sifu.... i'm just a small potato.

How are you guys' project going??

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Hi friends.. :)

Yeahh lo phantom... just seat at the corner
n observed tha rotary cifoo's chitchatting hehehehe..
i'm not even tha small potato.. i'm just a
green leaf of the potato .. :P

Project?? hmmm still surveying the best engine
to swap in my MazdaLUCE.. Analyzing pro & korn
about 1jz or 13bT...
Both got lot of pro n korn.... aiyohh....
Considering RB20DET also...
All sifoo's... share laa... :P

::PIMP POGO::

~take k mike

 

[SiGNAL]

Hi pogo,

1jz sounds good, rb20 also not bad..... but if u wanna stay in the mazda spirit, must get 13B la!!! hehehe

I heard 13b very easy to modify le, just change the apex seal to 3mm and port the intake, u can boost up to around 300 to 400hp? depending on setup..... lol if wrong, dont shoot me ok?

1jz how much the engine or halfcut compared to rb20 or 13B??? 2.5L should have more grunt than the rb20 but the parts and availability of rb20 is good too. If 1jz expensive, then rb20 should be good if u want reliability.....

just my 2cents. :P

 

[pogo]

Originally posted by SiGNAL@Aug 31 2004, 06:57 PM
I heard 13b very easy to modify le, just change the apex seal to 3mm and port the intake, u can boost up to around 300 to 400hp? depending on setup..... lol if wrong, dont shoot me ok?

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Hi bro..

No doubt bout it... heard bout it to... that tha advantages
if running wif rotor engine... just done a simple2 mods then
hp surely goin high.. but disadvantages was the fuel consumption...
Hmmmm... thats why 13b gonna b my 3rd choice of engine
to swap into hehehehehe...:) Halfcut prices not sure..

1jz halfcut around 2.5k - 3k.. 2500cc TT
RB20DET halfcut around 2k - 2.3k... 2000CCT

....hmm not much different huh bro... and the spareparts
for both engine still make senses and easy to get.
1jz more power... hmmm...but not sure about the reliability.
as RB20DET, i'm agree wif u ... reliability... fuel consumption..
spareparts..as i've run wif this engine currently (gonna let go soon).
See how laa bro...
Now, i'm digging more info about 1jz engine... do u know anything bout
this engine huh bro??
i'm 0 .... hehehehe

~take k mike..

 

[Phantom_Scarab]

guys...

me....oso dig up 1jz-gte info.....my pomen quote 6k for it plus installation....

he had converted few 1jz into beemer body.....he said RB no power n easy overheat....dont shoot me.... :D

rb20det (M) 215hp
1jz-gte (M) 280hp

SO.....which is which.....damn penin....

1JZ....1JZ....1JZ....1JZ.....1JZ......1JZ....

:D

p/s but if u get 1jz-gte VVTI.....aiyoh.....story no use ma......


pogo: let us go hunt 1jz together.... :lol: ....hafcut tokey sure give mo discount :D

 

[joomba]

juz butting in.. don't shoot me okay! :D


can put aar sr20det into fd? i tot not enuff space, mebbe haf to cut the bonnet.. how bout jpj? can lepas aar?


don't shoot me okay.. juz askin :)

 

[SiGNAL]

Yes!!! I've seen it with my own eyes before!! yeah space abit tight if compared to 13B but definitely can!! The bonnet thing, i forget need to cut bonnet structure or not, hehehe cause i wasn't there when the car rolled out, if didn't remember wrong, only bit of the bonnet structure was skimmed or cut off... just a small piece

pogo,

I thought the 1jz is turbo only?? twin turbo ka?? i dont have much info about 1jz too.... hehehe maybe not so famous. :P

But you need to realised that 500cc has alot diff in power and torque. If diff only few hundred bucks, i think i'll go for 1jz lo. Dont mind abit extra eh? that's just me :P

phantom,

are you sure the 1jz is 280hps???? 2jz also 280hps woh(although alot restrictions)... i heard in us, they take out the restrictions, 2jz can whoop out 300+hps easily without any mod..... just remove restrictions. and UK Supra at rated at higher hps, not 280hps i know... forget what liao, maybe can ask BlackHowling..... if u want more info about 1jz?

just my 2 cents

 

[Phantom_Scarab]

Displacement : 2491cc
Type : Twin Turbo Inline 6 Cyl
Valvetrain : Belt driven DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
Fuel System : TCCS EFI, Premium Unleaded
Ignition System : Direct fire ignition
Combustion Chambers : Pent Roof
Compression Ratio : 8.5:1
Bore x Stroke : 86 x 71.5

Peak Power : 280PS (206 kW) @ 6200rpm
*i posted 280hp...supposed 280PS to be mo precised,but normal jargon for boyracer 280 je.

Peak Torque : 37.0 kgm (268 lb ft, 363 Nm) @ 4800rpm
Fuel Consumption : 210 g / PS*h @ 2000 rpm

Dimensions (LxWxH) : 860 x 670 x 665 mm (MTM)
: 845 x 670 x 665 mm (ATM)
Weight (complete) : 217kg
Turbos : CT12A (2x)
Compressor wheel : 37/54mm
Turbine wheel : 52/42mm
Boost : 0.60-0.69kg/cm2 (8.5 - 9.8psi)
Fuel Injectors : 380cc/min high impedance

Intake cam timing (o-c) : 3° BTDC - 41° ABDC
Exhaust cam timing (o-c) : 46° BBDC - 2° ATDC
Camshaft duration : 224 (in) 228 (ex)
Valve clearance cold : 0.15-0.25mm (in) 0.25-0.35mm (ex)
Spark plug : ND PK20TR11 / NGK BRK6EKPB11
Plug gap : 1.1mm (limit 1.3mm)
Base Ignition timing : 8-12 BTDC (jumper TE1,E1)
Idle rpm : 600-700
Engine Oil : SAE 10W30, API SH

 

[pogo]

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Hi friends...

Phantom PIMP..
Bro... 6k installation 1jz?? is it include
change all the minor2 things such.... lubricant..
belting things.. hoses n vise versa?
Bimmer swap in 1jz? waaa... surely engine bay packed
like sardin .. :) and its kewl..
How long ehh bro it wud takes for the conversion?
as i dont have 2nd car loo... die laa wanna go to werk..
aiyohh..
BTW... where r u located bro? i might go surveying 1jz
once buyer of my A31 loan approved :). MazdaLUCE
cant wait to get new 'JANTUNG' hehehehe...
I've met wif 1jz-gte VVTI at Kobe Subang
few month back... very good conds... but at that
time got no intention to look for it laa.. dont know
whether sold edi or not.. ;)

signal bro...
yeahh i agree that 1jz was not so popular
like Mitsu's engine... thats y the prices damnnnnnn
cheapp .. :) and heard stock 1jz also kawwwww one ;).
Yeapp... thinking just like yaa said that 1jz only few hundreds
diff wif RB20 halfcuts... better go for the best...
:)...

...see laa how.. mazdaLUCE wif Nissan's Engine or
Toyota's Engine.. :)..

~take k mike..

 

[Phantom_Scarab]

Originally posted by pogo@Sep 2 2004, 03:52 PM
Phantom PIMP..
Bro... 6k installation 1jz?? is it include
change all the minor2 things such.... lubricant..
belting things.. hoses n vise versa?
Bimmer swap in 1jz? waaa... surely engine bay packed
like sardin .. :) and its kewl..
How long ehh bro it wud takes for the conversion?
as i dont have 2nd car loo... die laa wanna go to werk..
aiyohh..
BTW... where r u located bro? i might go surveying 1jz
once buyer of my A31 loan approved :). MazdaLUCE
cant wait to get new 'JANTUNG' hehehehe...
I've met wif 1jz-gte VVTI at Kobe Subang
few month back... very good conds... but at that
time got no intention to look for it laa.. dont know
whether sold edi or not.. ;)

pimp pogo,

6k is for upah n hafcut oni....others bare ownself.....ask him 2mths ago.....my pomen can kaotim 1....hes is famous among toyota sifoos here.....
very friendly ppl n down to earth....not like some bigheaded workshop.....want to cuthroat oni but bad aftersales service....

but if u buy yr own frontcut,the upah for turbo RM1800 oni,NA RM1500 oni....cheap2....

duration depends on da bussines la.....more cars....slow la convert....

me based in KLIA n s.alam....

aiyoh....1jz-gte VVTI.....my dream engine.....day n nite....cannot live w/out u baby :rolleyes: :lol:

pogo:did u ask wht the price ? 1jz-gte vvti?

cheers

 

[pogo]

Originally posted by Phantom_Scarab@Sep 3 2004, 12:02 AM
pogo:did u ask wht the price ? 1jz-gte vvti?

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Hi mike...

Phantom PIMP...
Sori aaa bro, i did not asking for the
halfcut prices as at that time i'm searching
for my Ceffys gadget.. :).
I'll surveying the conversion werksop next week...
Hope i can get kewl prices wif gud services.. :).

~take k mike..

 

[SiGNAL]

Good luck pogo! keep us updated