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wait wait.. i read the whole thread.. and there are two sets of feedback.. so i`m not sure now.. is it heel on brakes and toe on accelerator or heel on accelerator and toe on break.. according to calvin itz heel on accelerator wor.. but i do it with toe on accelerator..
toe on excel then ur feet hav to bent like hell la....
somemore is easier for ur heel to be at lower(excel is lower than brake padel)......
see those clip they also toe on brake n heal on excel....
maybe u r more comfy wif toe on excel n heel on brake la....???
somemore is easier for ur heel to be at lower(excel is lower than brake padel)......
see those clip they also toe on brake n heal on excel....
maybe u r more comfy wif toe on excel n heel on brake la....???
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Hi Xion13, u remember me? We met at the Pro Hatch TT meet up point at ProJet Petrol Station.
Wah.. I wonder what's the effect of heel and toe in a turbocharged car.. does the blow off valve sound when u heel and toe?
Mine also stock pedals, but can still heel and toe.... but would be easier if it had those racing kind of pedals.
Heel and Toe takes alot of practise. Make sure u do it on a straight road. Practise heel and toe from 4th to 3rd gear.. once u get the timing correct, then u can try downshift to other gears.
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try frmo 5-4 and 4-3...for beginner try at lower rev..dun go from 1st to 4th all full rev and try to downshift by using heel and toe.u will overev..so u need to do something else. but for start,just go around 4k and heel and toe from 5-4 and 4-3..try pratice wit the timing and make it natural which means u heel and toe without thinking the steps (takes alot of time..hehehe).onces u get 5-4,4-3 heel and toe downshift right without jerk,now try to downshift from 3-2.this time..u will realise that u need to blip more and is hard to match the nice rev( pratice again)..
try this for half a year...then another half a year try to go higher rev and u will discover another thing>>over rev
do on straight road and dun utilise it straight away for tackling corner,sekali misjudge speed u end up heel and toe in the middle of the corner which is abit dangerous.
for me, saru kuna wira is easier to match the rev compare to my saga.stanley one more around the same.
gd luck trying
try this for half a year...then another half a year try to go higher rev and u will discover another thing>>over rev
do on straight road and dun utilise it straight away for tackling corner,sekali misjudge speed u end up heel and toe in the middle of the corner which is abit dangerous.
for me, saru kuna wira is easier to match the rev compare to my saga.stanley one more around the same.
gd luck trying
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THIS SOUND VELI INTERESTING.
wat is heel toe driving??
a noob here plzzzzzzz tell wat izzit, thanx
wat is heel toe driving??
a noob here plzzzzzzz tell wat izzit, thanx
lotsss of practise...that's the main point...
stock pads also can do...but not to comfy...cuz the oil pedal is to small...
try to get a metal@carbon@anything
just like this...the oil pedal wider so u can toe it up...
the difficult part is during slow braking...
stock pads also can do...but not to comfy...cuz the oil pedal is to small...
try to get a metal@carbon@anything
just like this...the oil pedal wider so u can toe it up...
the difficult part is during slow braking...
i suggest calling esca to coach u as he taught me this technique...hahahahhaa, once u played with it, u'll find it very hard to quit this habit and likes to brake late and tackle corners.
Don't do that in front of your folks k? They'll kill u
Don't do that in front of your folks k? They'll kill u
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i'm not exspert la thteh..mr stanley is! ^_^
now only prob 4 me..darn miss q rate downshift 3-2 and high rev will jerk abit and make the car abit off balance.timing also need more pratice...nowadays bz so lazy play
itu windz taikor also quite gd in this..kekekekekke
now only prob 4 me..darn miss q rate downshift 3-2 and high rev will jerk abit and make the car abit off balance.timing also need more pratice...nowadays bz so lazy play
itu windz taikor also quite gd in this..kekekekekke
thanx lots guys for the great feedback... hmmm... a lot of advice is really of great help.. but... I STILL CANNOT BEND LA!!! ARGHHH!! geram la... maybe leg too long? lol :P
ermm .. i think i drive daily wif this method to keep my timing high .. cause my engine oways mati' .. ha ha .. all u ppls here very funny epecially fstrader :"leg kenot bend must go hospital lar bro " .. i cant stop my laugh .. ;)
dont screw up ure gear box while concentrating on right "heel toe" technique and forgot to press ure clutch with left foot anyway .. big trouble later on ;)
HEEL AND TOE GUIDE
okay guys ... a bitty bit but ... im not holding responsibility on any damages, injury, or other consequences of using or misusing the information i give here try at your own risk, and assume full responsibility for it. ;)
A heel-and-toe downshift refers to a specific technique used to downshift a manual transmission car. It might seem onekind to the general , but racecar drivers use it all the time. Once mastered, the heel-and-toe downshift offers the benefits of reduced vehicle wear-and-tear, better driver control and faster lap times on a racetrack.
Heel and Toe is a driving technique that allows you to smoothly brake and down shift at the same time. This technique is often confused with double declutching which is a seperate process that can be used to assist your shifting, although the tewo techniques are best if used together.
Use of the Heel And Toe technique on a race course allows you to down shift while still braking in a straight line for a corner. This allows you to keep both hands on the wheel through out the turn and puts you in the right gear before you need to be in it, allowing you to power away through the apex of the corner and along the following straight. This means you aren't coasting through a corner and wasting time. Because the shift is done smoothly there is no sudden change to the balance of the car and so the risk of spinning, locking up your wheels or otherwise doing something that loses you time & speed is reduced. Remember, smoothness is the key to speed.
On the road this technique is useful for smoothing out your driving, and if used in conjunction with the double declutching technique can be used to smoothly power away at traffic lights that change before you have stopped moving.
How do you heel-toe ? There are two parts to the heel and toe technique, the actions you need to perform and a process called rev matching (also explained in double declutching). The actions required to heel and tow requires a great deal of patience and practice, we suggest that you only practice these at race events or when there are no hazards on the road. You may wish to practice the movements in your car while stationary (with the engine off) just to get used to them.
The exact actions for heel-toe depend on your vehicle setup and your own personal preferences. Basically these are as follows :
-Begin braking with your right foot.
-Depress the clutch pedal with your left foot.
If you are intending to double de-clutch while performing the heel-toe, move the -gear stick to the neutral position and let the clutch out, otherwise move it to the gear you are selecting but don't let the clutch out yet.
-With your right foot blip the accelerator - but keep braking with your right foot at the same time (more on this follows)
-If you are double declutching as well depress the clutch pedal again with your left foot and move the gear stick to the new gear.
-Let the clutch out
TWO METHODS
1. Use the ball of your foot (the part just behind your toes) to brake, when you want to blip the accelerator twist your foot and use your heel to depress the accelerator pedal. This is where the technique gets its name, and is the only way you can perform this technique if the pedals in your vehicle are along way apart. Some people prefer this technique because they feel they have less chance of their foot slipping on the pedal than the other method - but others find this more likely to cause slipping. In small cars without a lot of foot room (such as an MR2 or MX-5/Miata) you may be better off using the second method. This method is often reffered to as being the 'old way', as in the past many vehicles had the brake on the right and the accelerator in the middle, and so the heel was used to brake and the toes to blip.
2. When you place your foot over the brake pedal, only use half your foot, let the other half hang off the brake pedal over the accelerator. This only works in the pedals in your car are close enough together, although the addition of proper racing pedals with a flange on the accelerator will help. It is important that your foot not press on the accelerator until you want to blip it, so you must apply pressure to the brake using only one side of your foot. Some people dislike this method because they feel they may slip off the brake when only using half of their foot, but some feel more comfortable with this than the other method.
Once you've got the motions down to second nature, you need to start rev matching. It is the process of rev matching that smooths everything else and actually makes heel and toe useful.
Rev Matching can be practiced with a lot less bother when double declutching with the use of the heel and tow technique, as there is less to concentrate on. When you rev match you are attempting to bring the revs up to the same level as they need to be for the car you're in to do the same speed you are doing at that point in time, in the new gear you are selecting. Say you're doing 50 kph in fourth gear, at two thousand revs, but you want to change down to second for some more power. If you simply try and change down, several things will happen :
The gear box may resist the shift, if it doesn't your synchros are doing their job but you're wearing them out. The actions covered in the double declutching article will avoid this.
The car will need more revs to do the same speed in the lower gear so it will start to engine brake, unless you apply the accelerator at the same time as you clutch out, in which case the car is like to take off with a bit of a leap.
You will change smoothly, but only by letting the revs drop off to a lower level, resulting in a slower shift.
okay guys ... a bitty bit but ... im not holding responsibility on any damages, injury, or other consequences of using or misusing the information i give here try at your own risk, and assume full responsibility for it. ;)
A heel-and-toe downshift refers to a specific technique used to downshift a manual transmission car. It might seem onekind to the general , but racecar drivers use it all the time. Once mastered, the heel-and-toe downshift offers the benefits of reduced vehicle wear-and-tear, better driver control and faster lap times on a racetrack.
Heel and Toe is a driving technique that allows you to smoothly brake and down shift at the same time. This technique is often confused with double declutching which is a seperate process that can be used to assist your shifting, although the tewo techniques are best if used together.
Use of the Heel And Toe technique on a race course allows you to down shift while still braking in a straight line for a corner. This allows you to keep both hands on the wheel through out the turn and puts you in the right gear before you need to be in it, allowing you to power away through the apex of the corner and along the following straight. This means you aren't coasting through a corner and wasting time. Because the shift is done smoothly there is no sudden change to the balance of the car and so the risk of spinning, locking up your wheels or otherwise doing something that loses you time & speed is reduced. Remember, smoothness is the key to speed.
On the road this technique is useful for smoothing out your driving, and if used in conjunction with the double declutching technique can be used to smoothly power away at traffic lights that change before you have stopped moving.
How do you heel-toe ? There are two parts to the heel and toe technique, the actions you need to perform and a process called rev matching (also explained in double declutching). The actions required to heel and tow requires a great deal of patience and practice, we suggest that you only practice these at race events or when there are no hazards on the road. You may wish to practice the movements in your car while stationary (with the engine off) just to get used to them.
The exact actions for heel-toe depend on your vehicle setup and your own personal preferences. Basically these are as follows :
-Begin braking with your right foot.
-Depress the clutch pedal with your left foot.
If you are intending to double de-clutch while performing the heel-toe, move the -gear stick to the neutral position and let the clutch out, otherwise move it to the gear you are selecting but don't let the clutch out yet.
-With your right foot blip the accelerator - but keep braking with your right foot at the same time (more on this follows)
-If you are double declutching as well depress the clutch pedal again with your left foot and move the gear stick to the new gear.
-Let the clutch out
TWO METHODS
1. Use the ball of your foot (the part just behind your toes) to brake, when you want to blip the accelerator twist your foot and use your heel to depress the accelerator pedal. This is where the technique gets its name, and is the only way you can perform this technique if the pedals in your vehicle are along way apart. Some people prefer this technique because they feel they have less chance of their foot slipping on the pedal than the other method - but others find this more likely to cause slipping. In small cars without a lot of foot room (such as an MR2 or MX-5/Miata) you may be better off using the second method. This method is often reffered to as being the 'old way', as in the past many vehicles had the brake on the right and the accelerator in the middle, and so the heel was used to brake and the toes to blip.
2. When you place your foot over the brake pedal, only use half your foot, let the other half hang off the brake pedal over the accelerator. This only works in the pedals in your car are close enough together, although the addition of proper racing pedals with a flange on the accelerator will help. It is important that your foot not press on the accelerator until you want to blip it, so you must apply pressure to the brake using only one side of your foot. Some people dislike this method because they feel they may slip off the brake when only using half of their foot, but some feel more comfortable with this than the other method.
Once you've got the motions down to second nature, you need to start rev matching. It is the process of rev matching that smooths everything else and actually makes heel and toe useful.
Rev Matching can be practiced with a lot less bother when double declutching with the use of the heel and tow technique, as there is less to concentrate on. When you rev match you are attempting to bring the revs up to the same level as they need to be for the car you're in to do the same speed you are doing at that point in time, in the new gear you are selecting. Say you're doing 50 kph in fourth gear, at two thousand revs, but you want to change down to second for some more power. If you simply try and change down, several things will happen :
The gear box may resist the shift, if it doesn't your synchros are doing their job but you're wearing them out. The actions covered in the double declutching article will avoid this.
The car will need more revs to do the same speed in the lower gear so it will start to engine brake, unless you apply the accelerator at the same time as you clutch out, in which case the car is like to take off with a bit of a leap.
You will change smoothly, but only by letting the revs drop off to a lower level, resulting in a slower shift.
.. continuation from above regarding DOUBLE CLUTCHING
Double declutching (sometimes spelt double de-clutching) is a technique that, if done properly, allows you to down shift smoothly using a manual transmission. Double declutching also allows you to down shift when using a gear box that has no "synchros", or worn "synchros". If you have trouble getting into one or two particular gears, especially when down shifting, you may have worn syncros. Double declutching will also reduce wear and tear on your synchros even if you have good ones, increasing the life of your transmission. Finally, this technique will also allow you to go into first gear when you are moving at slow speeds (10-30kph) even if your gear box would usually resist such a shift. Being able to shift down to first while still moving at these speeds can give you that extra push needed when rolling up to a set of traffic lights that change to green before you stop moving, or in a race where you have to slow down for some reason and then want to take off again in a hurry.
This technique can be used on its own, or as is more often the case, as part of the heel and toe technique. This article will describe the process of double declutching only, if you wish to learn the heal and toe technique follow the links provided here or on our tips page. Note however that double declutching is a lot easier to learn than the heal and toe technique and if you plan to do both together you may be better off learning this first, then moving on to the other.
So, how do you double declutch ? There are really two parts to the process, the actions required to double declutch, and a second process called Rev Matching. The actions are quite simple, even if they do require some practice. The basic movements are as follows :
-Clutch in (press the clutch pedal to the floor)
-Move the gear stick to NEUTRAL
-Clutch out (release the clutch pedal to its normal position)
-Blip the accelerator (push on the accelerator pedal so the revs rise and fall)
-Clutch in again
-Move the gear stick to the new gear
-Clutch out again
Double declutching (sometimes spelt double de-clutching) is a technique that, if done properly, allows you to down shift smoothly using a manual transmission. Double declutching also allows you to down shift when using a gear box that has no "synchros", or worn "synchros". If you have trouble getting into one or two particular gears, especially when down shifting, you may have worn syncros. Double declutching will also reduce wear and tear on your synchros even if you have good ones, increasing the life of your transmission. Finally, this technique will also allow you to go into first gear when you are moving at slow speeds (10-30kph) even if your gear box would usually resist such a shift. Being able to shift down to first while still moving at these speeds can give you that extra push needed when rolling up to a set of traffic lights that change to green before you stop moving, or in a race where you have to slow down for some reason and then want to take off again in a hurry.
This technique can be used on its own, or as is more often the case, as part of the heel and toe technique. This article will describe the process of double declutching only, if you wish to learn the heal and toe technique follow the links provided here or on our tips page. Note however that double declutching is a lot easier to learn than the heal and toe technique and if you plan to do both together you may be better off learning this first, then moving on to the other.
So, how do you double declutch ? There are really two parts to the process, the actions required to double declutch, and a second process called Rev Matching. The actions are quite simple, even if they do require some practice. The basic movements are as follows :
-Clutch in (press the clutch pedal to the floor)
-Move the gear stick to NEUTRAL
-Clutch out (release the clutch pedal to its normal position)
-Blip the accelerator (push on the accelerator pedal so the revs rise and fall)
-Clutch in again
-Move the gear stick to the new gear
-Clutch out again
hey sakuraguy.. good article! thanks lots! lol.. off 2 try again... haha :lol:
i also wanna learn.. but my car dun have a tachometer.. dunno what's my rev. LoL..
welcome u guys .. tacho's u can fix wat .. cheap wan i think RM70+
whats the difference
press clutch, neutral, clutch out and accelerate
and
press clutch and accelerate?
press clutch, neutral, clutch out and accelerate
and
press clutch and accelerate?
wanna buy tacho? call me or pm me, lozo, heal and toe takes less time and u'll be able to match it even nicely
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