Citroen ZX corners? That's if the hydraulics don't break first.
Ixeo : Rs are not dull or boring that's for sure. But I think it's a personal opinion whether they are great. I mean, I've driven the FC, FD, a 316Ti with a 3L BMW engine, etc and the one that always makes me want one is the FD (twin turbo variant). I'm fond of the DC2 and the EK but ultimately (for me) they were just good cars, not great. I've never sat in a Supra before but having tried to follow one in a IS200 it was bloody awesome to see it dissapear from my passanger view even though the IS200 was already maxed out. I'll bet it'll be a damn interesting drive too. But that's all my personal opinion. Not saying your choice of cars are bad, they're great. Just not as great as the FD I'm so obssessed about, personally speaking of course.
What makes the FD so great?
I've got a FD3S pinned on my wall, and that's the ONLY car on my wall. Its not that I don't like the car, I love it, the curves are timeless, but I don't see it being very fun to drive for a nooblet like me and most average joes.
How many people do you think can take a corner balls out with a turbocharged RWD
without traction control. If you can't go balls out with your car, you ain't having fun.
I don't know how other people have fun, but fun is not how fast the car can go, or how great the car is. It's how fast YOU can go in the car without killing yourself, or the car. To illustrate my point, who do you think is having fun? The Satria or the Porsche? Of course, that Satria is a R3 variant with modifications. When I mentioned Type R & Lotus, its stock cars.. No point talking about modded cars because with enough money, a Kelisa can be fast, furious and fun, I think if you spend half the money to buy a R35 to modify a Kelisa (RM175k, sequential manual gearbox, a built 1.5L turbocharged engine with meth injection, nos (to win the drag race), full standalone with traction & launch control, stripped out chassis, customized suspension.. etc.), the Kelisa will bungkus the R35..but that's besides the point cause if you spend half the money on a Veyron to modify a R35, it will bungkus the Veyron..
Noob Satria R3 chasing Porsche in Sepang Open track day 2010 - YouTube