bro, dun get spiderslr wrong coz when he said it was fast he meant 13 years ago of course now its different d, 1.6 vtec is not 1.6 vtec already no more if u get wat i mean. btw i was dat chinese who own the saga then befofe selling it off and got other cars, a dc2 then an ek, my 2 liter ek whack mild modded evo 6 in quarter mile drag and i still think its not fast enuff so wat do u mean by fast enough...........of course money matter the most now ler!!niceputera said:I won by 7 cars margin in 300m match . Don't get me wrong. I know him (eventhough not very close because I went back to Ipoh once a month only and seldom hang around with them) through a friend. It was a friendly match by his request. By comparison, he can smoke std Sgti with a margin at least 2 cars length. The saga is fast but still has much room to improve. It's the money that matter.
It should be the same saga. The history and the age of the car itself do suit the picture. It still run strong nowdays. Vtec realibility is very high. :regular_smile:
Danny101 said:bro, dun get spiderslr wrong coz when he said it was fast he meant 13 years ago of course now its different d, 1.6 vtec is not 1.6 vtec already no more if u get wat i mean. btw i was dat chinese who own the saga then befofe selling it off and got other cars, a dc2 then an ek, my 2 liter ek whack mild modded evo 6 in quarter mile drag and i still think its not fast enuff so wat do u mean by fast enough...........of course money matter the most now ler!!
Cmmon lar,,vtec is not that "untouchable". This thing is normal, even modded 4g91 can beat vtec b18c, it all depends on the mechanic larr:regular_smile:b00n said:niceputera......7 cars...wow!!
wat is inside your car.................but imagine he transplanted the engine 13 yrs ago. Would the saga still be modded sommoe or still with the original specs.....that's the biggest question.
For me, if i'm still with the saga for 13 years, I think I would probably add in many performance part and enter drag or track race d. 13 years is a long time try and imagine what can be installed inside the saga in 13 years........alot of enhancement can be done.
Danny,,you beat EVO & Sti was bcoz your driving skill:regular_smile: Niceputra mention about sprinting,,that's the different. I think what he meant was with the "right" mods, even putra can tarpau VTEC kaw-kaw. Im not surprise though.Danny101 said:bro, my toyota seg with picture of engine shown in my avatar also whack street evo and wrx sti in sic.........so can i say dat evo 7 and sti 7 is also not fast? no way rite those are all 280hp cars u know its just dat they lose out at corners only not the straights so tell me now wat is fast and wat is not........hahahah!
Yes, exactly.V8_nutter said:Danny,,you beat EVO & Sti was bcoz your driving skill:regular_smile: Niceputra mention about sprinting,,that's the different. I think what he meant was with the "right" mods, even putra can tarpau VTEC kaw-kaw. Im not surprise though.
I think you get the facts wrong lar,,,it's not easy for VTEC to clock 13sec. I seen most B20 clocked 13sec ++ which i think not impressive:mouth_closed: Bear in mind that stock "k20 type r" is only 14.8sec you know:regular_smile:, in stock form VTEC is awesome, in mods form,,,,any engine can be fast.niceputera said:Danny101,
As I've mentioned "For Ipoh std, it is quite fast, but in KL the power is ordinary".
I think u might agree, Ipoh does not has the modification level enjoyed by people in KL or JB. It's quite slow in Ipoh. That is the comparison level by what I meant by fast but not dmmm fast.
A fully blown 2.0 vtec with superlight ek body is known to consistently score 12 sec bracket time. A mild moded Evo 6 that has heavier body will also score around the same figure. It's no surprise that ur vtec can beat that evo.
But have u ever heard of any '93 that can break 12 sec time? I've not came accross one. Even to see a 13 sec '93 also very diff. But for vtec 13 sec is a norm, 12sec is fast. So for a '93 that can go 13 sec in 400m range with full weight and still not fully modified is considered fast to me. I think u got the point now.
Rgds.
Obviously I wouldn't say that stock engine cannot be mod kaw kaw lar.b00n said:yea yea....its true true......all are fast cars.
Only depends on which is faster on what conditions.
But man, if i've that saga for 13 years as my toy car, most probably would turbo charge it; cams, pistons........undercarriage, absorbers, springs....make it a mean machine on tracks and on streets d.
wouldn't u??
V8_nutter said:I think you get the facts wrong lar,,,it's not easy for VTEC to clock 13sec. I seen most B20 clocked 13sec ++ which i think not impressive:mouth_closed: Bear in mind that stock "k20 type r" is only 14.8sec you know:regular_smile:, in stock form VTEC is awesome, in mods form,,,,any engine can be fast.
I'm referring the SIC drag race where the vtec contenders are very strong thus 13 sec is consider not fast enough and 12 sec is fast. Of course in std form they're not into the 13 sec bracket.
niceputera, danny's EK was a street EK wif full interior and its not even full blown yet.......i think his point is, there's no such thing as 'fast enuff' for some ppl.....the desire, urge and passion to go faster will always be there n it'll probably b an endless pursuit to it.......niceputera said:Danny101,
As I've mentioned "For Ipoh std, it is quite fast, but in KL the power is ordinary".
I think u might agree, Ipoh does not has the modification level enjoyed by people in KL or JB. It's quite slow in Ipoh. That is the comparison level by what I meant by fast but not dmmm fast.
A fully blown 2.0 vtec with superlight ek body is known to consistently score 12 sec bracket time. A mild moded Evo 6 that has heavier body will also score around the same figure. It's no surprise that ur vtec can beat that evo.
But have u ever heard of any '93 that can break 12 sec time? I've not came accross one. Even to see a 13 sec '93 also very diff. But for vtec 13 sec is a norm, 12sec is fast. So for a '93 that can go 13 sec in 400m range with full weight and still not fully modified is considered fast to me. I think u got the point now.
Rgds.