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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FVel" data-source="post: 2596219" data-attributes="member: 48425">Blackhowling was not trying to insult you when he posted that question to you, which by the way is a very pragmatic question.What he was trying to say is "Do you know what you want ?"You're a 21 year old college student. To many of the old hats who actually have slogged through working life, you are still a spring chicken and being so young with so little background experience, it can be difficult knowing what you want. Many young people start off with stars in their eyes, enthusiastically pursuing a course of ambition only to get disillusioned mid-step and change course in life. And so it is the same with working life and carreers. The benefit of hindsight is a strong teacher but you got to have gone through the process to have hindsight.The guys who replied here are on the point. There is no formal course of study for car tuning. You quoted some college in Subang which charge RM 40,000 for such a course. To be frank with you, I rather doubt any institute of structured learning will be in a position to offer anything other than the basic theories and the bare minimum groundwork. I'm a double degree-holder in Commerce and Law from Australia. It cost me a lot of money to obtain the cert but that piece of paper hanging on my wall is practically useless when it comes to your 1st day of working life. It gives you the basic understanding and will open doors to employment easier if compared to someone without a degree, but once you land your 1st job, that cert is next to useless because working life and thinking on your feet is a whole new learning process. No textbook will ever prepare you for your career. Yes, you have something of a point that you get experience even when studying, but the experience is not as substantial as most graduates seem to think. My personal view is that most young graduates over-estimate their self-worth and I have interviewed my fair share of them. Colleges only impart a basic ability in that they teach you how to learn. They do no teach you on how to be articulate. That is something you are either born with or acquired through sheer hardwork and dogged perseverance. I'm not saying you should not go through college or university. All things being equal, a tertiary degree it will open doors for you easier than someone without a degree. After you get your 1st job, your cert is irrelevant and you are on equal footing with your work collegues. A guy with no formal education but who have hands-on experience on the job will beat any raw graduate all the time. As the other posters said here, car tuning is not a narrow discipline. It encompass a wide range of automative systems and it is geared more towards years of hands-on work rather than any formal course of study. Take a good look around at the leading tuners at Subang and tell me honestly how many of these people are holders of tertiary degrees. In all likelihood, not many. Most of these guys worked from the ground up in apprenticeships over many years learning up the skills on-the-job itself. You can certainly approach tuners to take you in as an apprentice, but I suspect your success at landing the interview will be due less to your cert and more towards how well you sell yourself to them. They probably won't look at your cert so much rather than your work ethics and your intelligence ('intelligence' is not something acquired from getting an 'A' in an exam). Are you also prepared to work long hours for many years, in physically strenous and dirty duties for low pay ? The compensation, if you are willing to learn, is you get the knowledge and savvy from the on-job experience but that can many years down the line. These are some of the things you need to consider because they come part and parcel of apprenticeships. And also be prepared to do all the crap stuff before you prove yourself fit to help out on the high-end gear. So it's no picnic. Consider you options carefully because it's nothing like the glamour hot chicks-laden atmosphere you saw in Tej's garage of 2 Fast 2 Furious.</blockquote>

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