suspension talk

[bambino]

guys just wondering wad suspensions you guys are using? ohlins..teins...hks..? wad would a decent price be for a chop shop item, 2nd hand or brandnew? how to see if the set is a good one and not faulty?
i believe this a rarely talked question but has been bugging me for some time now..

i ever saw one set of ohlins for sale but the tip of the suspensions were rusty... not a good choice rite?

 

[cartoon]

Before buying a set of suspension, you must know what you want it for

Lowered the car height? Make it more stable?? But for more comfort ride, I don't think it is posible...

 

[heavenz]

Ohlins is very nice on the track and its a bit stiff on the road nevertheless is a very nice suspension but it depends on personal prefferences.Buying suspension is a very hard choice and you better negotiate with the seller at least you can try it 1st to see if the suspension is making noise or is the stiffness suitable for you. But if is not a workshop seller you got to pay the labour to install and take them out if you dont like.

 

[cartoon]

I don't think it is posible to ask for try the suspension, because it is not easy as changing the shoes...

 

[heavenz]

If u are willing to pay for the labour why not?

 

[phat7]

you're right. the ohlins are nice on the track but very stiff on normal days.

 

[radicaliez]

i use the koni suspension and it was about rm3+++ last 2 years at Hokomoto...my opinoin the suspension quit good coz it it stable, dont have a lot of bouncing movement. but little bit stiff..still managable..

 

[bambino]

no one using hks hipermax ii/iii ? D2? wad abt brands like bilstein?

 

[Maxx]

i use the koni suspension and it was about rm3+++ last 2 years at Hokomoto...my opinoin the suspension quit good coz it it stable, dont have a lot of bouncing movement. but little bit stiff..still managable..

bro, does hokomoto can service Koni suspension?
asking since u have went there n bought koni as well.

i got koni insert/cartridge abs with my h.cut, n planning to change abs.

 

[RERider]

Just share my past experiences of few suspension:-

-Ohlins, 1 of my fav. Best for track and street use. 11kg/mm F/R.

-Tein circuit master RA/RE are strictly for track use. 16kg/mm F/R.

-GAB. Very hard too. Spring rate at 16F/14R kg/mm.

-BuddyClub, suspensions are very light but limited height adj.

-HKS Hypermax II and Perfomer are comfortable on street. 8kg/mm F/R. Can be stiffed depend your setting. Currently using them.




P/S:Ivan, when do u wanna take the burn-out b/kit? Btw, I wanna keep the head lights. Sorry buddy.

 

[radicaliez]

bro, does hokomoto can service Koni suspension?
asking since u have went there n bought koni as well.

i got koni insert/cartridge abs with my h.cut, n planning to change abs.

i'm not sure they can service back the abs, but you can certainly call them or more info. pls tell us if it can be service.

cheers mate.

hokomoto- 603-6187 3880

 

[jc@]

anyone using amemiya-quantum shocks.

 

[Alchemis]

RE-amemiya Quantum shocks are 20KG front and rear....

let me give a brief explanation of suspensions....consist of 2 major part that affects the whole experience...

1. Spring - basically a spring is to support the car weight and also to determines how much it will tilt up or down when you're cornering or braking or accelerating... so if you have a soft spring, when you brake your nose of the car will almost touching the floor.. those are called unnecessary nose dive.. when it's too hard.. basically you feel like you're riding a car without suspension. critical selection of spring is important. cars on FD... they are using double wishbone front and multi link rear. in normal circumstances, they are alot heavier springs compared to those dudes that uses macpherson strut (subarus, protons) due to the location of the suspension.
2. the absorbers - the absorbers are the ones that determines how much it will absorb when there are movement channeled from your tyres. it's more difficult to explain in technical.. in lay man term, when you have paired up on a softer absorber, your car will be bouncy... because your springs are the one that doing the work.. not your absorbers. if you have a hard absorber with a soft spring... you will feel hard when you go over pot holes, but it will feel really comfortable on flat roads as the motion is slow.

so... critical is to find the perfect balance of pairing the spring value and also the damping value. stressing your shocks arent a good idea when it comes to reliability... too much on your spring... your handling sucks...

a track suspension aren't suitable for mountain windy roads. while mountain windy roads will give you unnecessary roll on the track.

i'm using HKS Hiper D... suits me well.. but heck.. it's FD... who really cares about comfortable :P... after servicing and revalving those shocks, it feels like ohlins... i consider ohlins quite comfy... same goes to mine.. the only one i really feel hard is the quantums...

 

[Alchemis]

not to forget... twin tube and monotube differences.... another explanation which i lazy to type ahahahhaha most of the Teins are twin tubes... all HKS are monotubes... ohlins are monotubes... quantum are monotubes...

 

[jc@]

there's a touge version, amemiya special on-sale last time. the rate is like 14kg/mm fr, 16kg/mm rear.

this was like last year. when their amemiya FD become the touge max "monster" beating the 34gtr. ( hotversion)

 

[jc@]

save it , no need to type. im not an amateur. haha.... just want to know whether any of you using. by the way, i don't drive proton/subaru. my car's having double wishbone front/rear like yours also. hehe....

looks like i surf ama san's web page more often then you all ya? i know, im crazy, cause i don't have a ride like yours. i surf amemiya and feed very often. to check for parts update.

hehe....ALchemis, thanks for the very good explanation.
i know them very well.
20kg is like for wangan version of fd or what?
and if you drive(fast ofcourse) with that setting, im pretty sure you will have to send your car to workshop or hapitalize once a week or more.

not much of you tune your car till very high horses, for handling wise, that kind of setting is not even recomended even if the road is smooth like a babe's skin...heheh.....


btw i think spring rate can be customise also, unless you bought it from chop shop.

 

[Alchemis]

make it this way... malaysia boleh ahahahaha what also can customize...alot of poeple does customization for shocks as well....

 

[jc@]

what i meant was direct order from japan with special request regrading the road condition. i think those japanese do take special request.