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<blockquote data-quote="chris2000" data-source="post: 551260" data-attributes="member: 11855"><p>Hi Boatowner,</p><p></p><p>Been very busy with work to reply here. </p><p></p><p>Ok, maybe we are just looking at things at a different perspective. Its just that <strong>some</strong> of the questions you ask or want to ask on behalf of the people, I feel is very unnecessary as its very basic and any track or track driver want to be, should already know. Possibly just different perspective.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: paleturquoise">"Refreshment question likewise. A simple answer from the instructors could be "refreshements are available at the pits for RM1.50 a can/bottle, or down the road at the petronas station." - would suck having not brought any drinks and not having any available at the track"</span></span></p><p>You said earlier "Will refreshments be provided?" and not can refereshment/drinks be bought. Thats is why i said how can be possible for refereshment provided with the course which is so low priced to try to fit into the budget of enthuasiast.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: cyan">"I did say "Will there be instructors beside the track at certain corners to take notes on our driving?" I didn't say EVERY corner. For example having just 1 instructor at t1/t2 could provide invaluable feedback to the drivers. btw... 15 corners there might be, but some corners such as T3 do not need any attention as they are so straight forward, and T1/T2 covered by one guy, T7/8 by one guy, T12/13/14 by one guy... you'd hardly need 15 instructors to cover all corners, and that's not what i was even asking/suggesting, not demanding."</span></p><p>Ok, not every corner then. But then again Sepang is NOT a Go-Kart Track, its a Formula One Track and way bigger. With the exception of marshals and some photographer, no one is allowed into the service roads facing the corners or stand near the corner to see your line. It very different from the normal Go-Kart Track. I feel it is still best and you will learn much more and faster with an instructor next to you to give you immediate feedback on the way you drive into the corner rather then after 3 or 5 laps then to explain what corner what mistake, by then most people will forget already.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: cyan">"Timing equipment question: Stopwatches are readily available and cheap, and most people probably have them, many on their phones. The instructor taking laptimes in the passenger seat for example works. Or an answer such as "we feel that times are not an important factor, enough can be ascertained from just driving feedback."</span> "</p><p><span style="color: black">When you said timing equipment, stopwatches won't even come into my mind, as I don't think it could even be classified as timing equipment. I feel Timing equipment would be something like you use it during sanction race in Sepang or those you use in those Go-Kart track like most Go-Kart track now. I would assume most people who want to attend this type of introduction course, would want to learn how to drive and proper way of driving in track rather than how fast you can drive. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: cyan">"I was looking for answers from the organisers of the event, not from somebody that thought i was dissing the program, that wasn't my intention, sorry if i made it seem that way."</span></p><p><span style="color: cyan"></span><span style="color: #000000">Please don't take my intention wrong as well. I was not here to flame anyone in particular too. Like I said earlier, probably we just look at things from different perspective, thats why I felt some questions were not necessary.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span> </p><p><span style="color: cyan">""RM150 FOR GUIDE AND YOU EXPECT GOT CLASSROOM??": a classroom session can be arranged at the nearby carpark for example... there is no need for rental of an actual room. I didn't say "will there be a classroom?" - there is no need to sit at desks for a theory session to take place. IMO a very good idea rather than just going out on track right away. and i did not say i "expect there to be a classroom" or "i demand that there be a classroom" i <em>asked</em> if there is going to be a classroom session."</span></p><p><span style="color: cyan"></span>Classroom? Wouldn't that mean a class held inside a room that has chairs and desk? That would what I would think or maybe some people would think classroom could be in the open air car park. Briefing, I would have understand more of what you would wanted to say.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: cyan">"I DON'T THINK SEPANG MOTORSPORTS CLUB IS REGISTERED OR CERTIFIED BY AAM. " - <strong>Yes it is.</strong> - you can double check with AAM if you don't trust me.</span></p><p><span style="color: black"><strong>YUP. </strong>You are very right. I called AAM today and told me that only since mid-last year, Sepang Motorsport Club is recognised by AAM. My mistake, cause I didn't know they changed last year.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: cyan">To be able to use a track with facilities that put to shame most other track on the planet on so many sundays thoughout the year for just RM150 for a 3 hour session is unheard of anywhere on European tracks for example</span></p><p><span style="color: black"><strong>Yup.</strong> I totally agree. Don't think anyone can find any cheaper sunday track rental in a F1 track.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Chris</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chris2000, post: 551260, member: 11855"] Hi Boatowner, Been very busy with work to reply here. Ok, maybe we are just looking at things at a different perspective. Its just that [b]some[/b] of the questions you ask or want to ask on behalf of the people, I feel is very unnecessary as its very basic and any track or track driver want to be, should already know. Possibly just different perspective. [size=1][color=paleturquoise]"Refreshment question likewise. A simple answer from the instructors could be "refreshements are available at the pits for RM1.50 a can/bottle, or down the road at the petronas station." - would suck having not brought any drinks and not having any available at the track"[/color][/size] You said earlier "Will refreshments be provided?" and not can refereshment/drinks be bought. Thats is why i said how can be possible for refereshment provided with the course which is so low priced to try to fit into the budget of enthuasiast. [color=cyan]"I did say "Will there be instructors beside the track at certain corners to take notes on our driving?" I didn't say EVERY corner. For example having just 1 instructor at t1/t2 could provide invaluable feedback to the drivers. btw... 15 corners there might be, but some corners such as T3 do not need any attention as they are so straight forward, and T1/T2 covered by one guy, T7/8 by one guy, T12/13/14 by one guy... you'd hardly need 15 instructors to cover all corners, and that's not what i was even asking/suggesting, not demanding."[/color] Ok, not every corner then. But then again Sepang is NOT a Go-Kart Track, its a Formula One Track and way bigger. With the exception of marshals and some photographer, no one is allowed into the service roads facing the corners or stand near the corner to see your line. It very different from the normal Go-Kart Track. I feel it is still best and you will learn much more and faster with an instructor next to you to give you immediate feedback on the way you drive into the corner rather then after 3 or 5 laps then to explain what corner what mistake, by then most people will forget already. [color=cyan]"Timing equipment question: Stopwatches are readily available and cheap, and most people probably have them, many on their phones. The instructor taking laptimes in the passenger seat for example works. Or an answer such as "we feel that times are not an important factor, enough can be ascertained from just driving feedback."[/color] " [color=black]When you said timing equipment, stopwatches won't even come into my mind, as I don't think it could even be classified as timing equipment. I feel Timing equipment would be something like you use it during sanction race in Sepang or those you use in those Go-Kart track like most Go-Kart track now. I would assume most people who want to attend this type of introduction course, would want to learn how to drive and proper way of driving in track rather than how fast you can drive. [/color] [color=#000000][/color] [color=cyan]"I was looking for answers from the organisers of the event, not from somebody that thought i was dissing the program, that wasn't my intention, sorry if i made it seem that way." [/color][color=#000000]Please don't take my intention wrong as well. I was not here to flame anyone in particular too. Like I said earlier, probably we just look at things from different perspective, thats why I felt some questions were not necessary. [/color] [color=cyan]""RM150 FOR GUIDE AND YOU EXPECT GOT CLASSROOM??": a classroom session can be arranged at the nearby carpark for example... there is no need for rental of an actual room. I didn't say "will there be a classroom?" - there is no need to sit at desks for a theory session to take place. IMO a very good idea rather than just going out on track right away. and i did not say i "expect there to be a classroom" or "i demand that there be a classroom" i [i]asked[/i] if there is going to be a classroom session." [/color]Classroom? Wouldn't that mean a class held inside a room that has chairs and desk? That would what I would think or maybe some people would think classroom could be in the open air car park. Briefing, I would have understand more of what you would wanted to say. [color=cyan]"I DON'T THINK SEPANG MOTORSPORTS CLUB IS REGISTERED OR CERTIFIED BY AAM. " - [b]Yes it is.[/b] - you can double check with AAM if you don't trust me.[/color] [color=black][b]YUP. [/b]You are very right. I called AAM today and told me that only since mid-last year, Sepang Motorsport Club is recognised by AAM. My mistake, cause I didn't know they changed last year.[/color] [color=cyan]To be able to use a track with facilities that put to shame most other track on the planet on so many sundays thoughout the year for just RM150 for a 3 hour session is unheard of anywhere on European tracks for example[/color] [color=black][b]Yup.[/b] I totally agree. Don't think anyone can find any cheaper sunday track rental in a F1 track.[/color] [color=#000000][/color] [color=#000000]Chris[/color] [/QUOTE]
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