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Message: <blockquote data-quote="csl" data-source="post: 2950847" data-attributes="member: 16966">After all things happen, the question is still goes back to the same starting point, that who will sacrifice for the start. Put it in the public transport, there will be difficult to judge how 'hard' and 'difficult' people are living at current situation. The gov has 2 choices, either create some potential white elephant projects (new terminals for public transport, LRT or etc) and spend money to boost something that not the actual thing people need, or, let the market demand to built a solution (example like too many people waiting for bus everyday, the bus company can submit a proposal and get financing loan from gov/bank, then buy more buses to full fill the market need. After all, money will never too much). Artificially or naturally, only can pick one. Which solution will a real leader pick, I guess no need to tell.On hybrid car, there is only advertising poison. As per some UK tv program tested with various car, fuel saving is only on paper. The only way to save fuel is on everyone's right leg. How the hybrid works, and why not gonna save fuel, plenty of ZTHians can explain better than me. Walk? I guess the poorest working class people in KL still can buy bicycle <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> . Make it more practical, buy a scooter if really poor <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> . Poor is not a sin, neither a shame. But don't know what can afford what cannot afford, gaya mesti ada, face must be shinning, all are attitude should be shame of. If in KL, a job that cannot pay for a person to be afford to pay monthly installment for RM100-180 for a small kapchai, he/she should consider to move to somewhere else for a better job. But you are right about the poor city planning. Hope less fresh people will put KL as a carrier starting point and stop all the demands on living places. The price already being jacked too high.Big city people should have big city people's thinking. If KL/selangor people so fragile, then the small town people like me and some other people have to kill ourselves for the sake of stopping all suffering? I know someone will ask me why not try to live in KL, but I would like to invite them to live in Ipoh, Kuantan and etc 1st <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> . 1 of my friend cannot stand after 1 week, because of 'no life' aka very boring <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> . I squeezed him back by saying, what life do you have when you have no money to eat a proper meal? Till date, he die die also wanna live in KL with that RM1.8k salary. In my home town, that salary can survive with a family easily. Every job has its potential to create fortune. Only depends on time and effort that a person willing to spare. In every crisis, lies an opportunity behind. Fate? Future? All depends on how a person gonna judge it, face it, and treat it. Nothing can hold a person's fate, the limits only come from own self.</blockquote>

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