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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deacon" data-source="post: 1801311" data-attributes="member: 12923">Just little bits of interesting info, heh.Toyota used Yamaha to help produce their 2ZZGTE (Celica GTS 180bhp engine). Why? Here's my hypothesis. Super bike technology (Yamaha) is far more advanced than everyday car technology. Think a super bike engine and you're thinking titanium valve seats, valve springs and conrods, basically the works. If you read about the B18C5R engine on wikipedia, you'll find out that almost all of Honda's high end VTECs use titanium in many of their parts as a result of both F1 and their venture into super bikes. This would explain how some super bikes have 200hp on an engine that doesn't have 4 cylinders (Obviously they are torqueless bastards.)Ok on to the other stuff before i forget.Lotus as a car company has not made an engine for a looooooong time. Not since the days of Colin Chapman and even then i can't remember whether i have ever heard of a popular engine Lotus made.Lotus used Cosworth (Or at times Honda) engines in both F1 and in their sports cars (No Honda engines here :P) like the Lotus Espirit and if i am not mistaken also in the Elise GT1. Lotus used Rover 1.8L 150bhp engines to power their road going Elises for the longest time until Lotus built the exige which now uses the 2ZZGTE Toyota VVTI engine. Interesting stuff, no?Getting to the point of what i was getting at with co-Lotus-Proton development, if Lotus hasn't made an engine for eons (EON get it hahaha) and Proton ... Well enough said ... It's hardly a wonder why the Campro is at best a normal beat around to get around engine.Although on another interesting side note i have been told by a reliable source that there does exist a Campro engine with close to or over 200bhp and its still a 1.6L. But whether it was co-developed with Lotus i am not sure, i still doubt it until someone slaps me around a bit ;)</blockquote>

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