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<blockquote data-quote="Zeroed" data-source="post: 1780232" data-attributes="member: 98"><p>Well no one needs to be building their own engines from zero knowledge. Back then no one knew how to build a good engine. These days good references are everywhere, so much that to build your own engine you only need the resources to hire good brains and hands. Then buy the necessary rights to incorporate certain technology into your engine, on the prototype level atleast. And apparantly it is so with Petronas, since they apparantly hired the help from some Japanese dude and Yamaha? </p><p></p><p>Infact, what youre saying really contrasts with Proton's (+Lotus) doing of building their own engines. Why not just get someone else to help? Even Toyota gets help from Yamaha to build their high end engines. Building a mediocre engine from scratch is probably going to cost more than having someone with the knowledge to produce a good one for you. </p><p></p><p>The mass production issue is a quality control problem all firms have to face after producing prototypes, and they do, and they can. Again, we're talking about big companies here, not a small factory who wants to build their own cars. What makes you think that Petronas and Proton cant overcome mass production problems? (Well actually, Proton alone probably cant, they'll need outside management like Petronas)</p><p></p><p>As I mentioned before, making it commercially viable is the problem that I thought made Proton not want the E-01. So on that point I agree with you. But I maintain that it could have been possible for Proton/Petronas to build a 200hp hotrod. Reliable or no, Im sure that the engineers arent stupid enough to design a 200hp engine that will break with little usage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You make it seem so hard to produce cars, disregarding that its the big companies and experts who are doing this. <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zeroed, post: 1780232, member: 98"] Well no one needs to be building their own engines from zero knowledge. Back then no one knew how to build a good engine. These days good references are everywhere, so much that to build your own engine you only need the resources to hire good brains and hands. Then buy the necessary rights to incorporate certain technology into your engine, on the prototype level atleast. And apparantly it is so with Petronas, since they apparantly hired the help from some Japanese dude and Yamaha? Infact, what youre saying really contrasts with Proton's (+Lotus) doing of building their own engines. Why not just get someone else to help? Even Toyota gets help from Yamaha to build their high end engines. Building a mediocre engine from scratch is probably going to cost more than having someone with the knowledge to produce a good one for you. The mass production issue is a quality control problem all firms have to face after producing prototypes, and they do, and they can. Again, we're talking about big companies here, not a small factory who wants to build their own cars. What makes you think that Petronas and Proton cant overcome mass production problems? (Well actually, Proton alone probably cant, they'll need outside management like Petronas) As I mentioned before, making it commercially viable is the problem that I thought made Proton not want the E-01. So on that point I agree with you. But I maintain that it could have been possible for Proton/Petronas to build a 200hp hotrod. Reliable or no, Im sure that the engineers arent stupid enough to design a 200hp engine that will break with little usage. You make it seem so hard to produce cars, disregarding that its the big companies and experts who are doing this. :biggrin: [/QUOTE]
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