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<blockquote data-quote="shiroitenshi" data-source="post: 2454235" data-attributes="member: 27518"><p>Actually you should post your dyno results, it would be lot more helpful, only the torque, if you have seperate printouts (i.e. dastek dyno), as the hp can be calculated from that, so just post one will do.</p><p></p><p>If you can retain adequate torque past the 8K mark, you will get that 190-200hp. (on enginelah) actually can be higher, but you need to live with certain issues that shouldn't be in a daily driven car.</p><p></p><p>10.5CR actually quite workable, although having 11+CR will give you better low end torque, because high duration cams tend to kill low end power. I'm guessing right now that your low end torque pretty much sucks, no? unless you ran higher comps via thinner gasket and flat valves.</p><p></p><p>but 167whp should mean you're getting peak torque at around 7.5-8Krpm correct? because your power output does nearly mimic mine, but I'd need to look at the dyno graphs.</p><p></p><p>so unless you can move your peak torque higher in the rev range, higher hp is unachievable.</p><p></p><p>but 167whp + 4.785... I think that's a pretty quick setup, but depends on the amount of torque at 6-9K.</p><p></p><p>if your mechanic can find out exactly how much retard or advance you can set your cams at, you can play with your cams slightly to get a bit more hp out of that. but not by much. There is a limit to that due to 1.6L and standard compression. You can run higher comps to compensate = higher pressure = more torque, but knocking would be concern unless you ran on race fuel.</p><p></p><p>I managed to push up to 170now, but knocking issues already, so finally reverted back to original because my car is a daily driven rustbucket after all.</p><p></p><p>200whp peak is quite doable with 1.6, but getting adequate torque to cover the gear range is the problem. The powerband is only like 2000-2500rpms wide, and will significantly be less as you push the torque higher in the RPM range, but currently my peak is only at 7.5K, so unless I go to higher rpms, I'm not messing with the peak just yet.</p><p></p><p>BTW, what heat range are you running on your plugs? 7s? 7 allow for that extra bit of ign. advance. 8's I think is better if you bumped up compression, or ran 9.5K rpms. but starting on no. 8 plugs on morning are not something enjoyable.</p><p></p><p>If you post yours, I'll post mine, and we can compare, I can even show you projected peak hp numbers based on peak torque location in the RPM range.</p><p></p><p>but high 'peak' hp does not = faster car, </p><p>which is why the 'there's no replacement for displacement' holds true everytime.</p><p></p><p>big displacement have the advantage of more torque, and although the peak area is still around 2-2.5K, it makes a heck of a lot more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shiroitenshi, post: 2454235, member: 27518"] Actually you should post your dyno results, it would be lot more helpful, only the torque, if you have seperate printouts (i.e. dastek dyno), as the hp can be calculated from that, so just post one will do. If you can retain adequate torque past the 8K mark, you will get that 190-200hp. (on enginelah) actually can be higher, but you need to live with certain issues that shouldn't be in a daily driven car. 10.5CR actually quite workable, although having 11+CR will give you better low end torque, because high duration cams tend to kill low end power. I'm guessing right now that your low end torque pretty much sucks, no? unless you ran higher comps via thinner gasket and flat valves. but 167whp should mean you're getting peak torque at around 7.5-8Krpm correct? because your power output does nearly mimic mine, but I'd need to look at the dyno graphs. so unless you can move your peak torque higher in the rev range, higher hp is unachievable. but 167whp + 4.785... I think that's a pretty quick setup, but depends on the amount of torque at 6-9K. if your mechanic can find out exactly how much retard or advance you can set your cams at, you can play with your cams slightly to get a bit more hp out of that. but not by much. There is a limit to that due to 1.6L and standard compression. You can run higher comps to compensate = higher pressure = more torque, but knocking would be concern unless you ran on race fuel. I managed to push up to 170now, but knocking issues already, so finally reverted back to original because my car is a daily driven rustbucket after all. 200whp peak is quite doable with 1.6, but getting adequate torque to cover the gear range is the problem. The powerband is only like 2000-2500rpms wide, and will significantly be less as you push the torque higher in the RPM range, but currently my peak is only at 7.5K, so unless I go to higher rpms, I'm not messing with the peak just yet. BTW, what heat range are you running on your plugs? 7s? 7 allow for that extra bit of ign. advance. 8's I think is better if you bumped up compression, or ran 9.5K rpms. but starting on no. 8 plugs on morning are not something enjoyable. If you post yours, I'll post mine, and we can compare, I can even show you projected peak hp numbers based on peak torque location in the RPM range. but high 'peak' hp does not = faster car, which is why the 'there's no replacement for displacement' holds true everytime. big displacement have the advantage of more torque, and although the peak area is still around 2-2.5K, it makes a heck of a lot more. [/QUOTE]
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