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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cuscostrutbrace" data-source="post: 2548020" data-attributes="member: 3867">OK thanks pcmoddingmy,i will hook both injection and ignition harness then.I think most problem why ppl say SAFC and e-manage doesnt work is because of the closed loop A/F control,and the ignition timing as you said.To the best of my knowledge (and tests i've done),the standard ecu goes closed loop on cruising,not when WOT,so i'm confused why ppl say it doesnt work.It should work on WOT condition.Since the Ignition timing map is using the Map sensor voltage for ignition timing,adding fuel will cause it to retard a bit on Safc (good for turbo/SC),not so good on N/A.BT ignition timing very conservatives,i compared both my Freedom and standard BT,standard one almost no knocking up until 7.5k rpm at WOT (Slight knock monitored with SAFC2,not so accurate).Very good knock control architecture.I have done wideband datalogging with EG9 on the standard BT ecu A/F,it is quite lean actually (using tailpipe clip-not so accurate compared to screw on extractor),it was showing 14-13 up until 7k rpm then drop to 12.8-12.5 until 8k+.I would say that the standard ecu is the best for a standard engine,in terms of all around performance.Power,ECO,Emissions...</blockquote>

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