Ron95

[wfhan]

seems getting better after the 3rd tank of ron97 now..

:hmmmm: huh ??? ....

 

[jasonchee98]

i pump ron97 esso today cos going up genting. darn... it feel good. the car pickup is great. darn... looks like i wanna stick to Ron97 now.

 

[wfhan]

i pump ron97 esso today cos going up genting. darn... it feel good. the car pickup is great. darn... looks like i wanna stick to Ron97 now.

me too sticking with ron97.

 

[Yong_5290]

since the beams engine has so high compression...any problem running long term wit ron 95?

 

[Greytezza]

.any problem running long term wit ron 95?

It is advisable not to use RON 95 for Altezza at all.

 

[wfhan]

Yong_5290,
Please treat the lady good and give her good energy drink.
In long run, your engine life is prolong in some sense (although no actual real-life proof).
i believe there are some altezza owners pumping ron95 since it's launched into their altezza,
i really wish to hear more from them that using ron95.

 

[Yong_5290]

yup...tats y i wan 2 know the result also...bcoz i read tat the compression is 11.5.1...which makes it really very high,same like fd2r k20a tat honda dont recommend it to run on ron95.... i blif those running ron95 if high rev the engine will have knocking...
but wat if we use management and then kind of retard the timing?

 

[wfhan]

buy altezza, then u can experiment it on your car.
for me, i'll just pump r97 so that she's rev-happy.
even my other car myvi, also drinking r97, AND fuk r95.

 

[zeus83]

im using 3SGTE, i feel no power diff with RON95:hmmmm:

 

[wfhan]

im using 3SGTE, i feel no power diff with RON95:hmmmm:

Zeus83,
tat is what u 'feel' ma. maybe ur 3sgte's knock sensor has higher tolerance level?.

Perhaps altezza's 3sge knock sensor is more sensitive and aggressive in sending
voltage signal to the ecu.

let's say in real the 3sge of altezza tends to knock and ping too often due to lower ron fuel,
in long term, the engine sure kaput (i.e.: shorter piston & conrod lifespan), u won't want your
engine to died off from inner detonation.

Yong_5290,
u were saying perhaps can use management to retard timing.
i'd say the 'idea' is a bit naive. yes, of course u can use management to control that, BUT
i don't think that even worth the management. if i were to have management in my car,
i'd use it for other better purpose, NOT just for using it to compensate the timing because of using
ron95. and one fine day if u decided to use back ron97 (IF later gov down the prices.. * in all's dream * ), u gonna go set the timing again ? why the hassle ?


if one can spent few hundreds/thousands bucks in upgrades of his/her car, and yet want to save
the tiny-winny $ to use ron95, then i dono what to say already... hahaha
:stupid::stupid: maybe one word 'Bengong"

Just my 50cent. today a bit emo...

 

[Greytezza]

Yong_5290,
u were saying perhaps can use management to retard timing.
i'd say the 'idea' is a bit naive. yes, of course u can use management to control that, BUT
i don't think that even worth the management. if i were to have management in my car,
i'd use it for other better purpose, NOT just for using it to compensate the timing because of using
ron95. and one fine day if u decided to use back ron97 (IF later gov down the prices.. * in all's dream * ), u gonna go set the timing again ? why the hassle ?


if one can spent few hundreds/thousands bucks in upgrades of his/her car, and yet want to save
the tiny-winny $ to use ron95, then i dono what to say already... hahaha
maybe one word 'Bengong"

You are right on the nose Mike...I would have ask the same question like you too. Why spend money on an ECU management system and pump low grade petrol in my car. The reason I spend money on mods like electronic management system, headers, air filters etc... is too extract more torque and increase bhp on my car. Why would I defeat all this by pumping in lower grade petrol.
YES..you can run the engine on RON95..but knocking will occur at high rev ie. when u floor the pedal.
I have a PowerFC installed in my car and YES I can have the timing retarded or tune to compensate for the RON95 petrol. But what is the point of spending money on the mods and tuning and in the end compromise on the end result. So I only use RON 97 and am not going to risk experimenting and waiting for the outcome of using RON 95..but at the end of the day it really depends on the owner.
Just my humble opinion.....

 

[wfhan]

in the nut shell, i quote greytezza
"The reason I spend money on mods like electronic management system, headers, air filters etc... is too extract more torque and increase bhp on my car. Why would I defeat all this by pumping in lower grade petrol."

big, loud and clear enough.

 

[Yong_5290]

actually i juz asking for fun as i would like to know from those running ron95
i presonally will run on ron97 if i get altezza coz of the engine's natural high compression

3sgTe is turbo charged,and turbo engines run on low compression

 

[Greytezza]

actually i juz asking for fun as i would like to know from those running ron95
i presonally will run on ron97 if i get altezza coz of the engine's natural high compression

Yong_5290..I see you are a very senior zth member with around 2,582 posts and I should call you taikor already. So in that sense I believe you are a very knowledgeable car enthusiast and becos of that I believe wfhan is a little rile by your question here..

 

[wfhan]

apa la.. use too deep english i don't understand..the 'rile rile' word gua-beh-hiao.
i only understand manglish.. or pasar english ...

haha.. no la... not say angry or what.
if u are noob in car, and upgrading from some noob car to altezza,
then i can see the point u asked the question. but if u r a car person
and u hv been around in the zth scene for quite some time, then
i cannot excuse it lor..

:P... haha...

after 1 more week, we'll be stepping into 2011,
any car would have grown another year older, so 2000yo car can be
consider 11yo in bank terms liao.. fast fast decide.

 

[jasonchee98]

guys... since it's been a while. I would like to know whether majority is still sticking to RON97 or change to RON95? any issue with RON95 so far with 3sge?

 

[wfhan]

no issue. near 2 mth use

 

[hulkv6tt]

same as mike ...no issue....more than 9 month use

 

[TopSecret]

no problem, been using RON95 long time during the period ron97 price rise from 2.10 to RM2.30

 

[jasonchee98]

i see. good to hear that. Thanks gents. :) u guys run with stock tuning or with some fine-tuning ?